Teacher telling kids about the tooth fairy - what to do ?

hell fire :eek: what did this chap do :thinking: :)
 
bobleeuk said:
hell fire :eek: what did this chap do :thinking: :)
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What didn't be do :D ..... I wouldn't worry too much about it, he wasn't all that interesting so not worth looking up... He was just a character, a footnote in the history of the forum you might say :suspect:
 
ha ha ha , it sounds like he made an impression any way.
 
Spoonpost: 6002382 said:
In fairness there is no such thing.

people usually tell their kids that lying is bad and you should never tell lies, but bring up their children always lying to them about this kind of thing.

You might have guessed, I don't have kids, but I really don't understand lying to them.
Spoony said:
In fairness there is no such thing.

people usually tell their kids that lying is bad and you should never tell lies, but bring up their children always lying to them about this kind of thing.

You might have guessed, I don't have kids, but I really don't understand lying to them.

Stranger danger goes out the window if he's dressed as santa.
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Stranger danger goes out the window if he's dressed as santa.
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Its not a lie, Its fantasy, kids love the idea of santa claus, tooth fairys and all.
Oh how my kids used to get so excited at christmas, its a time to cherish, because it won,t be long before some idiot comes along and spoils the fun. We kept the fantasy going for as long as we could, turns out my kids are always honest, but that will change when they have children and christmas comes around..
kids watch Tom & Jerry beating each other to a pulp, kids don,t go round setting fire to cats tails.
So many people want children to grow up so fast, I say let them be kids as they should.

Sack the teacher, she is a party pooper......
 
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It's all crap but it's all about Faith

Doesn't really matter who tells you what - it's down to what you believe.

Age makes no difference and Faith can leave you at any time.
 
Maggie52 said:
You have to laugh really. Teachers are there to teach and have no input on parenting? Whilst a child is at school they are in fact acting in loco parentis. How on earth can they be expected to be so rigid in their teaching and not discuss anything which is not in the national curriculum, it's just not possible.

With regards children missing school for a day, it is not the teachers themselves who have made this rule, they are acting on instructions and have no say in the matter.

Can't agree with your statement regarding half of teachers knowing nothing about teaching or parenting either.
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Totally agree.My wife is a teacher and a damn good one at that as are many of her colleagues. During her day she is the surrogate parent and has to provide advice, comfort and moral guidance on a daily basis..... as well as teach

As for taking time off to strike....she actually turned up to work the last couple of times as her priority is the kids not the politics.....

I understand your statement is not about my wife but on a whole teachers are in a really tough place.

They have really long hours, nine hour days are not uncommon plus book marking at home. The pressure of government policy is tremendous not to mention the OFSTED inspectors.

In real terms the teacher should have had a little sense and stayed clear of the tooth fairy issue but it is hardly a lynching matter....if it is really a big issue I would suggest talking directly with the teacher.
 
Well being bored I read about the tooth fairy on Wikipedia.

Liked the idea of the fairy paying more for well looked after teeth and in some cases leaving a note giving feedback of the quality of teeth hygiene.

It also said 'Children often discover the tooth fairy is imaginary as part of the 5- to 7-year shift, often connecting this to other gift-bearing imaginary figures (such asSanta Claus and the Easter Bunny)'

I am all for a bit of fantasy and mystery, for my 30th I went to Disney world, Florida and I had a blast, even had my photo taken with tigger and pooh, did it make a difference knowing that it was someone dressed up in an outfit - no, did it spoil the magic - no. I still really enjoyed it.

Anyway I am sure if you told a kid if they don't believe in the tooth fairy then they won't visit and leave any money, I am sure they will soon start believing again!
 
Our kids will come home from school with their interpretaion of events. Their interpretation may not be the facts. I often hear parents saying their child would never ever ever do this or that? Yeah right.

If unhappy the school will have a formal complaints process. I would use this in the first event.
 
archangel said:
The pressure of government policy is tremendous not to mention the OFSTED inspectors.
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Why do they pressurise them not to mention OFSTED inspectors? Is it like Beetlejuice, mention it 3 times and they appear?:lol:
 
nilagin said:
Why do they pressurise them not to mention OFSTED inspectors? Is it like Beetlejuice, mention it 3 times and they appear?:lol:
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It is a bit like saying " Scrivens" three times on any post on TP..... if you do they are sure to appear..... :)
 
i,m totally in bits over this post ,you mean there isn't a tooth fairy or santa claus ,gonna go and cry now was expecting loads of stuff in a couple of days ,and better get the wifes false teeth out from under my pillow :nuts::nuts::nuts::nuts::nuts:
 
Best thread ever. A total non issue. Also, who the hell is Santa Claus? This is Britain. Our imaginary Christmas house breaker is called Father Christmas.
 
A huge number of replies, and a few that are actually helpful and respond to my original post.
Thanks to those who have tried to help.

To clarify, it seems that most of the kids still believed in the tooth fairy, but this is not the point - it is NOT a teachers job to go saying this sort of thing - they more than most should understand the need to keep quiet about this sort of thing. Yes, they will all find out soon, but is it for the teacher to announce as fact just before Christmas ?

One person suggests that 'It's a bigger worry that these people are having kids in the first place' I am not sure if this is aimed at me but if it is then I resent this comment.

This quote I agree with as it says what I feel - 'Parents have the final say on a child's upbringing (unless it's deemed harmful, but that's making things complex,) not a teacher. Encourage a child to question but to make a bold statement like that lacks morals. Upsetting children by making such a statement - to be honest, I can't see how that's educational'

I am not trying to have a go at teachers - I actually spent a lot of time over the last few years helping out in a school so do have some idea of what is involved, and maybe also a little insight into what is avoided by a good teacher - this one seems to be making too many mistakes, and this issue is just the most recent - how about the teacher telling a child how she would commit suicide if the child handed in extra homework - appropriate ? This happened to mine while I was there, but was let go as I hoped it was just a slip of the tongue and that it wouldn't register.

It appears that there are more 'mistakes' being made which lead me to posting this thread and I was asking what the process was, which this reply has answered -

'First talk to the teacher

Then talk to the head teacher

Then you talk to the chair of governors

That is the route you take and anyone who says different is wrong. If these 3 steps don't resolve the issue, you then talk to the LEA'
 
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archangel said:
It is a bit like saying " Scrivens" three times on any post on TP..... if you do they are sure to appear..... :)
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You've done it now, I'm sure that is the 3rd time in this thread, he's so crafty even just referring to him without mentioning his name is enough to trigger his arrival, I'm sure.:lol:
He's probably been sat on the toilet all this time, with his tablet, drinking his coffee, and waiting for the Up to warm up so he can put the kids in it.;)
 
I think you need to take a deep breath and consider what you are angry at.

I'd be interested to know what books you deem not appropriate

If my younger boy asked about santa etc I'd tell him the truth - there is no reason for perpertuating the myth of these characters



stevewestern said:
My 9 year old believes in Father Christmas and the tooth fairy. I think this is the way it should be for as long as possible.
Her teacher told the entire class that the tooth fairy doesn't exist - thankfully my kid wasn't in the classroom at that moment, but I know of at least one child who went home and fell apart, asking if his mum was Santa as well.
Several other parents have told me how upset their kids were to find out, and one wrote to the headmaster and I am told got a one sentence reply though I don't know what it said yet.

So, my question is what to do. The teacher has already annoyed a few parents by putting books in the class library that are not appropriate even for the 10-11 year olds..

If a letter is sent to the head and there seems to be no decent reply, who do we parents go to - the governors or what ?

If anyone can offer some advice it would be much appreciated!
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To be honest. I don't really think any kids get that upset about Santa not being real. If they do, they will quickly get over it. I think the only way to keep this dream alive for them is to never let them out of the house.
 
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stevewestern said:
A huge number of replies, and a few that are actually helpful and respond to my original post.
Thanks to those who have tried to help.

To clarify, it seems that most of the kids still believed in the tooth fairy, but this is not the point - it is NOT a teachers job to go saying this sort of thing - they more than most should understand the need to keep quiet about this sort of thing. Yes, they will all find out soon, but is it for the teacher to announce as fact just before Christmas ?

One person suggests that 'It's a bigger worry that these people are having kids in the first place' I am not sure if this is aimed at me but if it is then I resent this comment.

This quote I agree with as it says what I feel - 'Parents have the final say on a child's upbringing (unless it's deemed harmful, but that's making things complex,) not a teacher. Encourage a child to question but to make a bold statement like that lacks morals. Upsetting children by making such a statement - to be honest, I can't see how that's educational'

I am not trying to have a go at teachers - I actually spent a lot of time over the last few years helping out in a school so do have some idea of what is involved, and maybe also a little insight into what is avoided by a good teacher - this one seems to be making too many mistakes, and this issue is just the most recent - how about the teacher telling a child how she would commit suicide if the child handed in extra homework - appropriate ? This happened to mine while I was there, but was let go as I hoped it was just a slip of the tongue and that it wouldn't register.

It appears that there are more 'mistakes' being made which lead me to posting this thread and I was asking what the process was, which this reply has answered -

'First talk to the teacher

Then talk to the head teacher

Then you talk to the chair of governors

That is the route you take and anyone who says different is wrong. If these 3 steps don't resolve the issue, you then talk to the LEA'
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Just out of interest is this one of these self run schools of excellance? If so I wish you all the best about complaining to anybody about anything, you might as well go talk to the nearest brick wall.
 
u8myufo said:
Just out of interest is this one of these self run schools of excellance? If so I wish you all the best about complaining to anybody about anything, you might as well go talk to the nearest brick wall.
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Rich, if you mean an academy, this is exactly the type of school I was paying about earlier.
 
stevewestern said:
A huge number of replies, and a few that are actually helpful and respond to my original post.
Thanks to those who have tried to help.

To clarify, it seems that most of the kids still believed in the tooth fairy, but this is not the point - it is NOT a teachers job to go saying this sort of thing - they more than most should understand the need to keep quiet about this sort of thing. Yes, they will all find out soon, but is it for the teacher to announce as fact just before Christmas ?

One person suggests that 'It's a bigger worry that these people are having kids in the first place' I am not sure if this is aimed at me but if it is then I resent this comment.

This quote I agree with as it says what I feel - 'Parents have the final say on a child's upbringing (unless it's deemed harmful, but that's making things complex,) not a teacher. Encourage a child to question but to make a bold statement like that lacks morals. Upsetting children by making such a statement - to be honest, I can't see how that's educational'

I am not trying to have a go at teachers - I actually spent a lot of time over the last few years helping out in a school so do have some idea of what is involved, and maybe also a little insight into what is avoided by a good teacher - this one seems to be making too many mistakes, and this issue is just the most recent - how about the teacher telling a child how she would commit suicide if the child handed in extra homework - appropriate ? This happened to mine while I was there, but was let go as I hoped it was just a slip of the tongue and that it wouldn't register.

It appears that there are more 'mistakes' being made which lead me to posting this thread and I was asking what the process was, which this reply has answered -

'First talk to the teacher

Then talk to the head teacher

Then you talk to the chair of governors

That is the route you take and anyone who says different is wrong. If these 3 steps don't resolve the issue, you then talk to the LEA'
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You forgot the other option "GET A GRIP"
In the mean time i would be so worried about the tooth fairy when this might happen to your little darlings.
 
I don't see why they don't just lock this thread now. I think as most people have mentioned it's pretty ridiculous and going nowhere.
 
connersz said:
I don't see why they don't just lock this thread now. I think as most people have mentioned it's pretty ridiculous and going nowhere.
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Absolutely
 
POAH said:
I think you need to take a deep breath and consider what you are angry at.

I'd be interested to know what books you deem not appropriate

If my younger boy asked about santa etc I'd tell him the truth - there is no reason for perpertuating the myth of these characters
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It's all very well if YOUR boy asks YOU about Santa. YOU then have the choice if you try and perpetuate the belief in Santa.

The point here is the option has been taken away from the parent as to whether they still believe or not.

In the grand scheme of things no big deal..... except perhaps if said 9 years old goes home in a state and tells the younger kids in the family ;)
 
Davec223 said:
Rich, if you mean an academy, this is exactly the type of school I was paying about earlier.
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Yeh it was Dave and there are some right stories I could tell you from a local one to us.
 
connersz said:
I don't see why they don't just lock this thread now. I think as most people have mentioned it's pretty ridiculous and going nowhere.
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bobleeuk said:
Absolutely
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Becuase that decision is made by the Mods and Admin, if you do not like the way the thread is going then feel free to use the appropriate report icon, it`s what it is there for :thumbs:
 
u8myufo said:
Yeh it was Dave and there are some right stories I could tell you from a local one to us.
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As I said I my earlier post, without the school and one particular teacher I really do bit know whether we would still have our eldest daughter with us today. You can only say as you find, I have heard some horror stories as well but....
 
u8myufo said:
Becuase that decision is made by the Mods and Admin, if you do not like the way the thread is going then feel free to use the appropriate report icon, it`s what it is there for :thumbs:
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This.......................or just don't bother reading it any more!!
 
Russ77 said:
It's all very well if YOUR boy asks YOU about Santa. YOU then have the choice if you try and perpetuate the belief in Santa.

The point here is the option has been taken away from the parent as to whether they still believe or not.

In the grand scheme of things no big deal..... except perhaps if said 9 years old goes home in a state and tells the younger kids in the family ;)
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wish he would, I've been told not to by the wife lol

why a 9 year old still believes in the tooth fairy and santa is beyond me though
 
POAH said:
wish he would, I've been told not to by the wife lol

why a 9 year old still believes in the tooth fairy and santa is beyond me though
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But yet again that's YOU, YOU don't see why a 9 year old stil believes in Santa.

In a World where kids seem to grow up WAAAAY too fast and are exposed to stuff that perhaps they shouldn't be at an early age *I* think it's lovely that a 9 year old still believes in Santa. That's my opinion and I'm entitled to that opinion just as much at you are entitled to your own opinion.

Again though I have feel the need to reiterated that it's down to the individual parent to decide when's the right time for their kid(s) to stop believing. Personally speaking, if they hadn't cottoned on to it being a steaming pile of crap by the time they go to secondary school then I'd let them into one of the best kept secrets of their childhoods, otherwise I'd want them to believe in Santa, the toothfairy and anything else that helps them enjoy their childhood before they have to deal with the reality of what life's really like.
 
Honestly... "It was the tooth fairy that was the last straw!" sounds so ridiculous that if I were the head teacher I'd also be sending a one line response.

OP - have you at any point raised any of YOUR concerns with the teacher themself? From everything you've said it sounds like you've heard a load of playground gossip and got all worked up about it. You're girl wasn't even in the classroom when ToothFairyGate occured so I think you should probably put that to one side for now and concentrate on:

"The teacher has already annoyed a few parents by putting books in the class library that are not appropriate even for the 10-11 year olds.."

Annoyed you or annoyed some other parents? What is your actual concern with the books? Don't take this the wrong way but given how stressed you are about your 9 year old knowing the tooth fairy isn't real, I'd be a touch concerned that your young lady is being overly shielded from absolutely everything. Are the books of a challenging nature topic wise or is there some other issue with them? What I'm trying to say is that reading taught me SO SO much and I am thankful that my parents allowed me to progress at my own pace and (within reason) allowed me to read more challenging books and discuss the content with me. Obviously you want to see what she is bringing home from the library and make sure you are happy with it - but having more challenging books available is no bad thing in my opinion.


"how about the teacher telling a child how she would commit suicide if the child handed in extra homework - appropriate ? This happened to mine while I was there, but was let go as I hoped it was just a slip of the tongue and that it wouldn't register."

I think you need to stop being passive - if the way this was said was inappropriate, you should have said so. Not necessarily in front of your girl, but a quiet word afterwards maybe.

Essentially - my advice is to have a face to face conversation with the teacher about your specific concerns and forget about whether anyones elses child is traumatised by the tooth fairy incident. If that doesn't yeild satisfactory results, move onto the head.
 
Russ77 said:
But yet again that's YOU, YOU don't see why a 9 year old stil believes in Santa.

In a World where kids seem to grow up WAAAAY too fast and are exposed to stuff that perhaps they shouldn't be at an early age *I* think it's lovely that a 9 year old still believes in Santa. That's my opinion and I'm entitled to that opinion just as much at you are entitled to your own opinion.

Again though I have feel the need to reiterated that it's down to the individual parent to decide when's the right time for their kid(s) to stop believing. Personally speaking, if they hadn't cottoned on to it being a steaming pile of crap by the time they go to secondary school then I'd let them into one of the best kept secrets of their childhoods, otherwise I'd want them to believe in Santa, the toothfairy and anything else that helps them enjoy their childhood before they have to deal with the reality of what life's really like.
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not believing in santa or a tooth fairy does not make a child grow up quicker

I do find the whole idea of talking to the head teacher over this utterly hilarious though (as does my own 9 year old )
 
i simply cannot believe this is still running ,in a age where guy fawkes night is moved because of concerns over health and safety and having a suitable supervisor to watch over the firework displays ,when halloween seems to have become a national day of celebration ,when you cannot play conkers in the school playground due to the elfs and safety again .who really cares whether one guardian reading new age teacher doesn't believe in santa and the tooth fairy ,i would be more concerned about what the teacher in question was actually teaching the children and whether it actually the truth or not .
and looking at the education some of my 10 grandchildren get these days i really do wonder what the supposed schools are churning out ,you only have to look on the likes of Facebook and twitter etc to see the level thats being achieved or better still watch jeremy kyles daily mong show ,to give a sigh of relief and hope your own kids don't hold this as a reference point .
so chill out and when your 9 year old wakes up christmas morning and see's all the presents piled under the tree they will know THERE REALLY IS A SANTA CLAUS :whistle: :wacky:
 
the black fox said:
when you cannot play conkers in the school playground due to the elfs and safety
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Actually, you still can. Health and safety is blamed when people don't want to take any responsibility for something regardless of how small the risk is. The health and Safety Executive have some pages on H & S myths, such as this one:

http://www.hse.gov.uk/myth/september.htm

The HSE itself has a much more sensible approach to things than some managers/head teachers who quote H & S policies which do not exist - often invented and perpetuated by The Daily Mail.


Steve.
 
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johnnypanic said:
Approach the principal first, if no joy there, then speak to the parent nominated governor or the chair of the board of governors.

In this situation, I'd be tempted to pay the teacher a visit and may sure the tooth fairy had something to collect, from under their pillow!!
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What a load of tosh- hopefully it would be your teeth under the pillow! You cannot go around threatening a teacher whatever your opinion
 
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