Such a lot of Fuji kit for sale in the ads.

EspressoJunkie said:
I've shot Fuji before, and have just returned again. I switched from a FF DSLR, mainly because I was missing the size of a mirrorless system. The only reason I stopped shooting Fuji before was the awful video and that has been solved in the latest cameras.

A huge draw for me is the image quality and colour rendition (subjective I know). I simply like the way Fuji files look, and of all the brands I've shot with (and with my previous GAS that's a lot) I find that Fuji and Canon are the two that take the least amount of tweaking to get an image the way I like.

If Canon had a half decent mirrorless range then I probably would have stayed with them, but they don't, so for me a Fuji was the obvious choice.
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My favourite are the provia and classic chrome setting in LR.
 
Funnily enough I've just gone the other way and sold almost all my Fuji kit and gone to a Nikon Df and recently bought a D750. I've shot with Fuji for almost 5 years including X-Pro1 & 2, X100, S & T, X-E2 and I've also had a good day's play with an X100F so I've used quite a few of their products.

Personally I've never been totally satisfied with the Fuji RAW files and never much liked the output of the JPGs. I much prefer how easy Nikon files are to work with. I also like the consistent auto focus and full frame look.

Fuji, to their credit are a fantastic marketing machine that empowers users through community. I'm pretty sure if other manufacturers such as Canikon did the same they could have similar results as Fuji does. Fact is, they don't.
 
im tired of buying and selling and wrapping parcels to take to the post office.
I have cured myself of Gas and will not be doing anymore buying and selling.
feel a lot better now but can understand other peoples choices.
 
SsSsSsSsSnake said:
im tired of buying and selling and wrapping parcels to take to the post office.
I have cured myself of Gas and will not be doing anymore buying and selling.
feel a lot better now but can understand other peoples choices.
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It will all come back to you when the XE3 or XT3 release lol.
 
wibbly said:
Funnily enough I've just gone the other way and sold almost all my Fuji kit and gone to a Nikon Df and recently bought a D750. I've shot with Fuji for almost 5 years including X-Pro1 & 2, X100, S & T, X-E2 and I've also had a good day's play with an X100F so I've used quite a few of their products.

Personally I've never been totally satisfied with the Fuji RAW files and never much liked the output of the JPGs. I much prefer how easy Nikon files are to work with. I also like the consistent auto focus and full frame look.

Fuji, to their credit are a fantastic marketing machine that empowers users through community. I'm pretty sure if other manufacturers such as Canikon did the same they could have similar results as Fuji does. Fact is, they don't.
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I got to admit the RAW file for Nikon/Canon is pretty easy to handle. It took me sometime to get use to the Fuji RAW, but I got use to it now. I guess you can't have everything sometimes. I gain from using Fuji but certain things will need to be sacrify. I use to own Nikon D3/D700 and FF lens.
 
SsSsSsSsSnake said:
im tired of buying and selling and wrapping parcels to take to the post office.
I have cured myself of Gas and will not be doing anymore buying and selling.
feel a lot better now but can understand other peoples choices.
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That's just today Sir, what about tomorrow ? :whistle::D:D

George.
 
I've bought and sold the heavy pro zooms because I briefly forgot why I ditched FF DSLRs in the first place.
 
So just how do the current mirrorless cameras compare to the likes of a D750 in terms of low light, focus speed and image quality..?
Every few months I get the urge to look at getting a mirrorless system again - I had an Olympus OMD EM1 and loved it in so many ways but it was just too far behind in a few areas that matter to me that the compromises were too great.
However, watching a young friend playing with his new Fuji XT10 (so new that I didn't want to tough it..) yesterday made me wonder if I should venture into a camera shop....
 
stevewestern said:
So just how do the current mirrorless cameras compare to the likes of a D750 in terms of low light, focus speed and image quality..?
Every few months I get the urge to look at getting a mirrorless system again - I had an Olympus OMD EM1 and loved it in so many ways but it was just too far behind in a few areas that matter to me that the compromises were too great.
However, watching a young friend playing with his new Fuji XT10 (so new that I didn't want to tough it..) yesterday made me wonder if I should venture into a camera shop....
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Resist the urge to enter the shop,it will only end in tears lol
 
stevewestern said:
So just how do the current mirrorless cameras compare to the likes of a D750 in terms of low light, focus speed and image quality..?
Every few months I get the urge to look at getting a mirrorless system again - I had an Olympus OMD EM1 and loved it in so many ways but it was just too far behind in a few areas that matter to me that the compromises were too great.
However, watching a young friend playing with his new Fuji XT10 (so new that I didn't want to tough it..) yesterday made me wonder if I should venture into a camera shop....
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The X-T2 is very good, but.... it's not a D750 and certainly not in all the areas that you highlighted. I am an X-T2 owner and have owned (and still own some) just about every Fuji mirrorless camera, I also had an OMD-EM1 MK2 for two weeks on an extended test/trial. Although the Olympus is very good, I wouldn't change my Fuji for it,and in low light the images at high ISO are noiser than the X-T2, but all this is expected as reducing the sensor size (of comparable generation sensors) will result in poorer high ISO. That said if I was buying a system to run alongside a FF DSLR then M43 certainly would be a consideration.

So if your main requirement is low light IQ, then the stick with D750 and don't go into the camera shop

But if you want a smaller package, less physically demanding but still capable of generating great images, then pay a visit.....
 
I came from a Canon 5D MK2 and the big white lenses for weddings etc.
I am sure that lugging all that stuff about for over 70 weddings may have contributed to my nerve damage on my elbow.
I do not miss "full frame" http://dedpxl.com/crop-or-crap-math-or-moment/
I don't find my XPro RAW files difficult to handle in fact they have vast amounts of detail in them.
The fact is we definitely need a Fuji classified section, they are popular and slightly niche in the way Fuji market and support the system.
 
Mr Perceptive said:
The X-T2 is very good, but.... it's not a D750 and certainly not in all the areas that you highlighted. I am an X-T2 owner and have owned (and still own some) just about every Fuji mirrorless camera, I also had an OMD-EM1 MK2 for two weeks on an extended test/trial. Although the Olympus is very good, I wouldn't change my Fuji for it,and in low light the images at high ISO are noiser than the X-T2, but all this is expected as reducing the sensor size (of comparable generation sensors) will result in poorer high ISO. That said if I was buying a system to run alongside a FF DSLR then M43 certainly would be a consideration.

So if your main requirement is low light IQ, then the stick with D750 and don't go into the camera shop

But if you want a smaller package, less physically demanding but still capable of generating great images, then pay a visit.....
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Thanks for sharing your wisdom David.
I'm very much teetering - I am not doing a lot of serious (or paid) photography these days and yes, low light/focus speed/image quality is important, but if the camera bag is so heavy that it remains at home then maybe size is important (despite me claiming it isn't for so many years to the wife...)
Maybe I should look into selling of a couple of rarely used lenses and see how far they will go towards something else....
 
Terrywoodenpic said:
It just shows it is time Fuji had their own sub forum like canon an nikon.
There is a lot of interest in Fuji and quite a few models and lenses to try out.

It does somewhat surprise me that the same people buy and trade the same model more than once.
Some people seem to need to try each and every one of them.
But as they lose so little money when traded, why not?
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badboy1984 said:
We need a proper sale section for Fuji.
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SsSsSsSsSnake said:
I agree fuji should now have their own sub forum in the ads
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Pretty much sick of saying this, but you can filter by camera make in the Other Brands Section. There's a pulldown at the bottom of the page titled "Thread Display Options" - select your camera type and hit select options.

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and, what do you know... there IS A DEDICATED FUJI FORUM SECTION !!

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of course, it helps if everyone actually puts the correct camera type into the thread title when they create the advert - if they don't, then feel free to tell them to do so in their for sale thread...

(I've just tidied the threads up, and it seems that the only people who were incapable of putting the correct camera type into the title were Fuji and Panasonic sellers - wonder what that little statistic speaks to... )

Lots of options in there BTW...

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Oh - and if you all DO use the prefixes all the time, the same trick will work in the sold/archived forum, allowing you to just dig out the Fuji (or Sony, Or Panasonic, or Leica, or Canon...) stuff for price comparisons as well...

I must mention to @Marcel, that putting a "default" Prefix on the two main Canon and Nikon forum sections would be a good idea to help with that one ;)
 
stevewestern said:
Thanks for sharing your wisdom David.
I'm very much teetering - I am not doing a lot of serious (or paid) photography these days and yes, low light/focus speed/image quality is important, but if the camera bag is so heavy that it remains at home then maybe size is important (despite me claiming it isn't for so many years to the wife...)
Maybe I should look into selling of a couple of rarely used lenses and see how far they will go towards something else....
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Steve, The current generation of Fuji's (X-trans3 sensors X-T2, X-T20, X-PRO2 and X100F) are a lot better in focus speed and low light capability than those that came before. If you shoot in mono the ACROS film simulation is very good at high ISO, and in camera processes better than 3rd party post production tools (Fuji have kept the processing method to themselves). The X-trans3 cameras have IMO much better shadow recovery than previous Fuji's.

I thought that the Shadow Recovery on the Olympus was poor (in comparison), until I realised that the histograms between the Fuji and Olympus were in different places! On the Fuji you have very little leeway in highlight recovery, usually when it's off the end of the histogram, it's blown, but on the Olympus you could recover quite a bit from an excessive right hand edge. Once I'd sussed this, the images between the two cameras at low ISO (less than 800) were very similar. (And I thought the 12-40 Pro Olympus Zoom lens was stellar)

Its horses for courses though, and it all depends on what package you are comfortable and whether you can work around the inevitable compromises. For what I do the Fuji meets my needs, and I love the old skool handling.

If weight/size has become an issue then selling some less used lenses, and dipping a toe is a good way forward.

BTW if you use LIghtroom, drop your catalogue into LIghtroom Analytics https://www.lightroomdashboard.com/ and select a suitable time period, it will show you your lens usage in fancy graphs and charts!
 
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stevewestern said:
So just how do the current mirrorless cameras compare to the likes of a D750 in terms of low light, focus speed and image quality..?
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I've never had a D750...

I think you'll have to decide on a make and model and try for yourself as focus speed in various light varies so much as does what people think of as low light as some people seem to think that shooting in the high street at ISO 1600 is low light and then of course your subject matters and it and its contrast will effect how the camera locks on or not. Don't forget also that focus speed is a function of the body and lens combination. Stick a slow lens on a fast body and you wont get record breaking speed.

The MFT cameras I have focus almost instantaneously in good light and will even focus in darkness way beyond the level at which any camera I've owned in the past would but when doing so they take several seconds and I can't think of an application I'd use this ability for :D

Image quality is another question, it depends on how big you print, how much you crop, how close you look and how picky you are.

You really have to try for yourself :D
 
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SsSsSsSsSnake said:
lol im cured believe me ;)
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I really hope so and envy you if its true :)

I don't even use it much at the minute and still bought a sodding flash two days ago... I don;t even use flash and have about five kicking about in the cupboards!!
 
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TheBigYin said:
Pretty much sick of saying this, but you can filter by camera make in the Other Brands Section. There's a pulldown at the bottom of the page titled "Thread Display Options" - select your camera type and hit select options.

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and, what do you know... there IS A DEDICATED FUJI FORUM SECTION !!

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of course, it helps if everyone actually puts the correct camera type into the thread title when they create the advert - if they don't, then feel free to tell them to do so in their for sale thread...

(I've just tidied the threads up, and it seems that the only people who were incapable of putting the correct camera type into the title were Fuji and Panasonic sellers - wonder what that little statistic speaks to... )

Lots of options in there BTW...

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Still does not explain why Canon and Nikon have the convenience of a top level tab, and Fugi and others do not, when a lot of the action is now centered on Fiji.
I know there is a work around, but then there are many other workarounds that are less than obvious.
 
Terrywoodenpic said:
Still does not explain why Canon and Nikon have the convenience of a top level tab, and Fugi and others do not, when a lot of the action is now centered on Fiji.
I know there is a work around, but then there are many other workarounds that are less than obvious.
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If you're typing Fugi and Fiji, you may have some difficulty finding any cameras :p:D
 
TheBigYin said:
Pretty much sick of saying this, but you can filter by camera make in the Other Brands Section. There's a pulldown at the bottom of the page titled "Thread Display Options" - select your camera type and hit select options.
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Just tried that and STILL NO PENTAX dedicated selling section in the classifieds ;) :pentax:
 
Mike.P said:
Just tried that and STILL NO PENTAX dedicated selling section in the classifieds ;) :pentax:
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are you sure...

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There's Nobody selling Pentax kit at the moment (or no prefixes set properly...) but there's the prefix there.
 
Bobsyeruncle said:
If you're typing Fugi and Fiji, you may have some difficulty finding any cameras :p:D
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Or CanNic or Nican, come to that. However a click on a TAB obviates any finger trouble or doubt. Unfortunately there is not one for FUJIFILM.
 
ancient_mariner said:
I'm intrigued by the number of people who seem to have bought fuji only to revert to canikon and then try Fuji again & then revert back. Is there something they think they've missed from the other system, or is it about perceived flaws (the Fuji sensor?) in each system that makes them swap back & forth?
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Personally for me it the sensor, however the cost of Fuji gear (especially lenses) has increased significantly in the last 12 months since the Brexit Vote which lens wise makes a lot of the Sony stuff look less expensive as much of the glass available for E Mount hasn't changed at all.
 
I'm very surprised that a Forum meet has never been discussed/arranged, where fellow members may possibly compare equipment.
I think everyone would benefit from reducing GA syndrome
 
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dcash29 said:
I'm very surprised that a Forum meet has never been discussed/arranged, where fellow members may possibly compare equipment.
I think everyone would benefit from reducing GA syndrome
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How about just going out using the gear rather than talk about it.
Seems to be split between those who go all over the show taking photos and those who conduct tests and talk about it.
 
TheBigYin said:
Pretty much sick of saying this, but you can filter by camera make in the Other Brands Section. There's a pulldown at the bottom of the page titled "Thread Display Options" - select your camera type and hit select options.

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and, what do you know... there IS A DEDICATED FUJI FORUM SECTION !!

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of course, it helps if everyone actually puts the correct camera type into the thread title when they create the advert - if they don't, then feel free to tell them to do so in their for sale thread...

(I've just tidied the threads up, and it seems that the only people who were incapable of putting the correct camera type into the title were Fuji and Panasonic sellers - wonder what that little statistic speaks to... )

Lots of options in there BTW...

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I like that prefix idea, that makes it so much easier to search with. It makes me wonder if it would be possible to have only the one sales section and everything can search by prefix. There wouldn't be a need for new deadicated sales sections if there was only one. If only we could start getting threads marked as sold or archived when all finished, it's as if a sticky is needed to at the top to say all of this along with the classified rules that are often not found by new sellers/buyers.
 
tijuana taxi said:
How about just going out using the gear rather than talk about it.
Seems to be split between those who go all over the show taking photos and those who conduct tests and talk about it.
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Maybe I didn't explain it properly? A discussion would take place to arrange a meet. On the meet, members would have the chance to use other members equipment (under the owners supervision, of course) with their memory card so that they can form an opinion before purchasing.
 
dcash29 said:
Maybe I didn't explain it properly? A discussion would take place to arrange a meet. On the meet, members would have the chance to use other members equipment (under the owners supervision, of course) with their memory card so that they can form an opinion before purchasing.
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Sorry Dave, but that sounds really boring and prefer a day out taking photos, if you can swap gear to try then that's a bonus

Also lenses can vary quite a bit between different samples so the one you tried might not necessarily be comparable to the one you buy
 
TheBigYin said:
are you sure...

There's Nobody selling Pentax kit at the moment (or no prefixes set properly...) but there's the prefix there.
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Maybe I was a little too subtle, did you not see the ;) ....... :D

I'm starting to worry actually, first I go with Pentax and now I have just bought a Canon M5. Don't think I will bother with the lottery any more.
 
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I think "such a lot" is a big exaggeration.

If I read the screenshot above correctly there are 14 pages total past and present when searching the brand.

That's what I would expect to see, nothing such a lot about it in my opinion.
 
tijuana taxi said:
How about just going out using the gear rather than talk about it.
Seems to be split between those who go all over the show taking photos and those who conduct tests and talk about it.
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I thought that happened already?

tijuana taxi said:
Sorry Dave, but that sounds really boring and prefer a day out taking photos, if you can swap gear to try then that's a bonus

Also lenses can vary quite a bit between different samples so the one you tried might not necessarily be comparable to the one you buy
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I find a lot of the chat on the forums pretty boring but thats ok, it wouldn't be compulsory for you to attend.
 
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