Such a lot of Fuji kit for sale in the ads.

It just shows it is time Fuji had their own sub forum like canon an nikon.
There is a lot of interest in Fuji and quite a few models and lenses to try out.

It does somewhat surprise me that the same people buy and trade the same model more than once.
Some people seem to need to try each and every one of them.
But as they lose so little money when traded, why not?
 
New Fuji users do not come without a history of using other kit.
Most have old Canik offerings to flog soon after.
Others like me just let it fester in the spare room with all the other discards.
 
Terrywoodenpic said:
It just shows it is time Fuji had their own sub forum like canon an nikon.
There is a lot of interest in Fuji and quite a few models and lenses to try out.

It does somewhat surprise me that the same people buy and trade the same model more than once.
Some people seem to need to try each and every one of them.
But as they lose so little money when traded, why not?
Click to expand...
I agree fuji should now have their own sub forum in the ads
 
SsSsSsSsSnake said:
Does this mean a name change to Sonyguru?
Click to expand...

Quite possibly or I could keep the Fuguru title as a reminder of the error of my ways, the Fuji is a great system but I guess I am missing the Full-Frame and fast lenses more than I expected :D :eek:
The plus side is I have been lucky enough to evaluate and use both systems.
 
Last edited:
I think for many people the buying & selling of the 'kit' is as much of the attraction (or more ?) as the actual taking of photographs ! We (I include myself but am currently in remission) construct various scenarios to justify the sale/purchase of new/different kit convinced this is the next necessary step in our photographic journey. I see no real harm in this providing you have the disposable income to support this expensive obsession. The cure ? Most important is the ability to recognise yourself in this scenario. :)
 
badlywornroy said:
I think for many people the buying & selling of the 'kit' is as much of the attraction (or more ?) as the actual taking of photographs ! We (I include myself but am currently in remission) construct various scenarios to justify the sale/purchase of new/different kit convinced this is the next necessary step in our photographic journey. I see no real harm in this providing you have the disposable income to support this expensive obsession. The cure ? Most important is the ability to recognise yourself in this scenario. :)
Click to expand...
Yep, I also love other gadgets, currently got be beedy eye on a New MacBook Pro / iPad Pro, NAS, iPhone 8 and DJI Mavic Pro..... lol :D
 
badlywornroy said:
I think for many people the buying & selling of the 'kit' is as much of the attraction (or more ?) as the actual taking of photographs ! We (I include myself but am currently in remission) construct various scenarios to justify the sale/purchase of new/different kit convinced this is the next necessary step in our photographic journey. I see no real harm in this providing you have the disposable income to support this expensive obsession. The cure ? Most important is the ability to recognise yourself in this scenario. :)
Click to expand...

This post should be left in 'bold' at the top of the equipment forum. I too am in remission, having only 'upgraded' one body in the last 18 months and actually sold 5 lenses that were not really being used. Do I miss any of the kit, no would be the short answer.

In fact I think that some of the best pictures I've taken this year have been with my 'original' X100 - now coming up for it's 5th birthday.

Not changing the kit, really allows you (IMO) to get on with the business of developing your photography, it also has the advantage that you become very familiar with your equipment and therefore know your way around it.

(But I do agree that its a free country and there will always be those for whom the latest and greatest, or even a change, is an important part of the hobby)
 
Just looked and bought my X-E1 in May 2014s to try the Fuji cameras out.

Few bodies and lenses later, still very happy with it and probably won't ever change again
 
I dipped my toe in Fuji waters a couple of times and absolutely loved the concept of the system, but I was struggling a bit with the execution of it all in the early days (being somebody who shoots weddings and motorsport) so played it safe and returned to Nikon for my main gear. I always maintained a cheap Fuji body as a personal camera.

With the latest gen Fuji gear I'm happy that the speed of the system (and a few others things, battery life of the X-T2 with grip, dual card slots etc) matches the rest of it, so I've just sold the last of my Nikon gear and gone 100% Fuji.

I think there is an awful lot of goodwill for Fuji with their firmware updates, listening to customer needs and putting out plenty of decent glass. Like Canon it's also a relatively risk free proposition in terms of buying and selling as it is so popular now, lens prices have actually gone up a fair bit and the used market is very stable on prices, so you can test the water and not lose much (if anything) over renting it for a weekend.
 
Yep, second hand prices are holding nicely.

X-E2 for £270 2-3 years ago, 18-55mm for £205, now the kit still fetches over £450. X100 4 years ago for £450 with loads of extras, now it is still worth £250. I've purchased 3 lenses at John Lewis and claimed Fuji cashback 2-3 years ago, the second hand prices at the moment are still only just slightly cheaper than my brand new lenses with extended warranty.



Firmware updates that add features are so important, I don't understand why it's special to Fuji. My X100 was transformed after the AF speed update. My X-E2 was transformed to X-T1 after the fantastic firmware update. Fuji release X-E2S, if they had operated like Canon/Nikon, you'd be required to buy the S to access the updated AF system.

So I think Fujifilm as a company is so much better than Canon/Nikon. The latters are like traditional car dealers or mobile network phone sales, charging you a lot and doesn't really do much except look nice in their flashy suits. Fuji is like Tesla or Apple, listen to customer needs and provide firmware updates that add features and improvements.



Also, agree with everyone. We need a Fujifilm ads section.
 
I'd say that Fujifilm is the best all round camera company out there when you factor in body design/build, customer service and firmware upgrades.
I will miss the great Fuji firmware upgrades and the body design for sure... also the film simulations are great too.
No system is perfect though and its different for each individual.....
 
The fact that there are an awful lot of pros who have picked one up for fun and then moved over (either in part or fully) is also interesting and has no doubt helped.

Fuji hoovered up loads of talented photographers who adopted the system early and added them to their (unpaid) X Photographers program, sending them loans of new gear for evaluation/review and displaying their work. They then allow them to release all of their work very shortly after a new body/lens is announced and seemingly write very honest reviews. You've got to have real confidence in your gear to do that. They also gather feedback from those guys and genuinely seem to act on it.

They are also really active on social media. They've picked up a few of my photos/articles and republished them, they are always getting real life work out there on show which is great.

Interesting contrast with Olympus who released the EM1 MkII to great fanfare as a sports shooters system...then did little but send a bunch of journalists on an uninspiring trip to Iceland to shoot rocks. I'm sure if they had got a bunch of cameras and PRO glass out there with talented amateurs/pros shooting motorsport etc they might have gained a bit more traction.
 
Last edited:
ukaskew said:
The fact that there are an awful lot of pros who have picked one up for fun and then moved over (either in part or fully) is also interesting and has no doubt helped.

Fuji hoovered up loads of talented photographers who adopted the system early and added them to their (unpaid) X Photographers program, sending them loans of new gear for evaluation/review and displaying their work. They then allow them to release all of their work very shortly after a new body/lens is announced and seemingly write very honest reviews. You've got to have real confidence in your gear to do that. They also gather feedback from those guys and genuinely seem to act on it.

They are also really active on social media. They've picked up a few of my photos/articles and republished them, they are always getting real life work out there on show which is great.

Interesting contrast with Olympus who released the EM1 MkII to great fanfare as a sports shooters system...then did little but send a bunch of journalists on an uninspiring trip to Iceland to shoot rocks. I'm sure if they had got a bunch of cameras and PRO glass out there with talented amateurs/pros shooting motorsport etc they might have gained a bit more traction.
Click to expand...

I agree, Fuji are doing everything right in terms of customer support, user interaction and have a strong presence on social media.
I do wonder though how many of those pros binned the crop sensor cameras as soon as Fuji pushed the medium format camera their way.
 
Fuji have turn the users focus back on taking the photo rather then obsessed with gear. Fuji made no crap lens and this mean I can pickup any fuji lens and I can take good photo. When I shoot Nikon I'm so obsessed with my gear but as time goes by, they don't get use, is more of a collection then I need it. With my Fuji setup, I use everything single lens I got and it motivates me to shoot more photo. The small and light weight body really helps.
 
ukaskew said:
Interesting contrast with Olympus who released the EM1 MkII to great fanfare as a sports shooters system...then did little but send a bunch of journalists on an uninspiring trip to Iceland to shoot rocks. I'm sure if they had got a bunch of cameras and PRO glass out there with talented amateurs/pros shooting motorsport etc they might have gained a bit more traction.
Click to expand...

I read a write up about that trip and the gear over at Luminous Landscape and how you can think that a trip to Iceland is uninspiring baffles me and if you couldn't find more than rocks to shoot then again I'm baffled.
 
Last edited:
addicknchips said:
I agree, Fuji are doing everything right in terms of customer support, user interaction and have a strong presence on social media.
I do wonder though how many of those pros binned the crop sensor cameras as soon as Fuji pushed the medium format camera their way.
Click to expand...
The thing is, Fuji haven't changed one bit since the days of the original Fuji X100, the customer service and firmware upgrades were just as great.
Sony and other manufacturers would see the reward if they want down the same route.... will definitely miss the Fuji for many reasons....
 
Fuguru said:
The thing is, Fuji haven't changed one bit since the days of the original Fuji X100, the customer service and firmware upgrades were just as great.
Sony and other manufacturers would see the reward if they want down the same route.... will definitely miss the Fuji for many reasons....
Click to expand...

Sure you want to make the switch?
 
Fuguru said:
Well I have been pondering over it this past week, my potential Sony gear has been sat at the store waiting for payment... lol :D
Click to expand...

Why not.... it is only money?
And there are a few on here looking for a few of your Fuji bargains.
You can always change back in a few months and give the Sony users a treat.( if you can find any)
 
Terrywoodenpic said:
Why not.... it is only money?
And there are a few on here looking for a few of your Fuji bargains.
You can always change back in a few months and give the Sony users a treat.( if you can find any)
Click to expand...
:D hehe :woot:
 
I don't think there's much if any difference these days between the different makes and models. Lenses yeah, but bodies? pffft, whatever you're comfortable using and gets the job done. I've been through Sony, Nikon, Canon and Fuji and since I always shoot RAW, and process all images in LR, there's very little difference. And I include Full frame Vs crop in that. The main difference between my old D800E images and my current XT-1 images is file size! I just prefer Fuji because of the tidier, more solid build and on body control layout. They couldn't be simpler to use and are less intimidating to the public when out and about shooting. People tend to leave you alone. When I used FX cameras I'd get stopped on the street to take pic's of complete strangers who would then ask "When will this be in the paper? who do you work for?" etc ... :D I often felt like a pap when just going for a walk through town with the D800E and a hefty FX lens attached swinging by my side [often just went to shoot this way, using a black rapid]

I was at my daughter's school play weds night, and was able to shoot away using the xt-1 and an old MF 135mm and get great shots without anyone even noticing. That's what I love about Fuji. And that's why they are very popular right now I think. People no longer want bulky, in your face kits. They want to blend in more, and not be harassed for simply taking a few shots when out and about. And the mass of Fuji sales is down to either people trying, and deciding it's not for them - which is fine, or Fuji owners looking to upgrade.
 
Last edited:
I'm intrigued by the number of people who seem to have bought fuji only to revert to canikon and then try Fuji again & then revert back. Is there something they think they've missed from the other system, or is it about perceived flaws (the Fuji sensor?) in each system that makes them swap back & forth?
 
ancient_mariner said:
I'm intrigued by the number of people who seem to have bought fuji only to revert to canikon and then try Fuji again & then revert back. Is there something they think they've missed from the other system, or is it about perceived flaws (the Fuji sensor?) in each system that makes them swap back & forth?
Click to expand...

I can only speak for myself (although I know others with similar thoughts) but as somebody who started out with digital (too young for film) I was 100% sold on mirrorless after trying one out for the first time, the EVF, focus accuracy and quietness etc was a revelation to me. Fuji launching their gear just added to that with the tactile controls. However, it was seriously lagging behind DSLRs in other areas so I had to move back (despite wanting to stick with it) to shoot at a level I was happy with for work.

Despite then shooting with Nikon for some time I always knew I would move back when mirrorless caught up. I gave it a shot with the X-T1 and it was very nearly there but went back. I'm now using the latest gen Fuji gear and it's a clear improvement. Never say never but the advancements mirrorless have made (Sony and Fuji, mainly) and that are still coming through now make it fairly compelling to stick with it now.
 
Last edited:
I would have gone FUJI myself when making the dcision to go from nikon.
I wanted smaller lighter and mirrorless, i chose olympus though as the FUJI lenses were to expensive for me.
best decision I ever made though.
love my Oly EM5 MKII
 
Terrywoodenpic said:
Why not.... it is only money?
And there are a few on here looking for a few of your Fuji bargains.
You can always change back in a few months and give the Sony users a treat.( if you can find any)
Click to expand...

AFAIK Sony sell a lot of cameras to the general public but maybe Fuji sell more to people who frequent photography forums. The A6xxx series in particular is AFAIK (again) a massive seller but there's next to no chat about it on these forums. I think forums give a skewed view if you're using them to gauge what's selling best.
 
woof woof said:
AFAIK Sony sell a lot of cameras to the general public but maybe Fuji sell more to people who frequent photography forums. The A6xxx series in particular is AFAIK (again) a massive seller but there's next to no chat about it on these forums. I think forums give a skewed view if you're using them to gauge what's selling best.
Click to expand...

I am sure you are right about sales . Sony have done far better from marketing to the general public, especially to those familiar with their electronic goods and other household products. Which is probably why Sony is less concerned about maintaining a continuity of products that appeal more to serious"Photographers".

Sony most definitely are serious serial innovators. but have a tendency towards a butterfly brain approach to their products that has never appealed to me. Probably because they do not design cameras that suit the more traditional approach to photography, or that have particularly logical layouts of controls, handling or menu systems.

Fuji on the other hand are firmly grounded in Photography. they understand how photographers work and think.
Continuity is a serious part of their planning. In as much that their firmware approach seems to be open ended, so that features can be added or amended at a later stage to existing hardware. Rather than only introduced on new models.
When Fuji do introduce new models they ensure that the wishes and needs of real photographers are solicited, and are far less likely to simply add innovations as sales gimmicks. or to raise "numbers" like pixels or ISO to outdo those of their competitors. The primary aim of their developments always leads to better tool for the job in hand,

The Fuji X series of cameras is neither aimed at, nor has made great inroads into the consumer market place. In fact, that is a market that they appear to have almost totally deserted.
Their sole digital camera in that field now is the S9800 bridge camera,. supported by their Instax range of fun instant print cameras.

If anything the recent introduction GFX 50s and the concentration on X cameras, indicates that that Fuji are moving, with considerable investment and planning, to an almost exclusively professional and advanced amateur photographer market place.
This is a concentration that no other leading camera maker has attempted in the digital era.
 
Last edited:
I've shot Fuji before, and have just returned again. I switched from a FF DSLR, mainly because I was missing the size of a mirrorless system. The only reason I stopped shooting Fuji before was the awful video and that has been solved in the latest cameras.

A huge draw for me is the image quality and colour rendition (subjective I know). I simply like the way Fuji files look, and of all the brands I've shot with (and with my previous GAS that's a lot) I find that Fuji and Canon are the two that take the least amount of tweaking to get an image the way I like.

If Canon had a half decent mirrorless range then I probably would have stayed with them, but they don't, so for me a Fuji was the obvious choice.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top