Shan't be using eBay again

[Deleted member 68495]

Sold a multitrack recorder on eBay today for about sixty seven quid. I haven't used eBay to sell anything for quite a few years and was surprised that the method of payment is not PayPal anymore but direct to eBay themselves. I thought' not a problem' as the selling side of the site explained that I would be paid direct to my bank account within a couple of days. Now I find that although it sold today, I won't get my money until the 12th December as eBay allows the buyer to inspect and give rise to any issues, then have to accept the item before eBay release my money. To be honest, I think I'd rather give it away to a local school as at least that would be the end of the matter. I don't necessarily expect a problem but I have heard stories wherein someone receives an item, claims it's damaged , then keeps it but sends a damaged one back, I didn't know about the non-PayPal thing at the time so wondered how they could do that; now I know.

For less than seventy quid I'm not sure I want to take the risk of having a lot of hassle that I don't need. I think I might just tell the guy it's been nicked and then give it to the music department at the local school instead and since I'll never sell anything by eBay again I'm really not worried about negative feedback.

Anyone had horror stories for items you've sold on fleabay?

 

[lindsay]

I didn't know this, so thanks for sharing. I'll definitely not sell there either now. I hope you get your money ok.

 

[the black fox]

The problem lies in your opening statement ( not used for a few years ) this means your feedback has now returned to zero ,no matter what it was previously ..
Had exactly the same problem with something I bought a few months back the seller like you had lapsed feedback and didn’t want to send till paid .. it was only after a few messages and they let him contact me that he sent it .. I gave him instant good feedback on receipt and I presume he got his money quicker .
Anything I sell I get paid for next day it’s far quicker than PayPal was . As stated it’s your fault not there’s there just making sure your still a genuine seller

And never as yet with circa 2 to 3 thousand buys and sells had a problem

 

[the black fox]

I didn't know this, so thanks for sharing. I'll definitely not sell there either now. I hope you get your money ok.

Read my reply above Lindsay

 

[lindsay]

Thanks Jeff, that does put a different slant on it. However I also know that seller final value fees have been going up in recent years, and there is no seller protection to match buyer protection, so that's why I've let my seller account lapse lately. I onl;y rarely buy on ebay now anyway, so not too bothered.

 

[the black fox]

Thanks Jeff, that does put a different slant on it. However I also know that seller final value fees have been going up in recent years, and there is no seller protection to match buyer protection, so that's why I've let my seller account lapse lately. I onl;y rarely buy on ebay now anyway, so not too bothered.

What you have to do is wait till the 80% + off final value fees offers appear ,usually every 2 weeks and list any high value items then . Still works out better than both e.bay and PayPal having there cut as of old

 

[Nikon f1.8]

What you have to do is wait till the 80% + off final value fees offers appear ,usually every 2 weeks and list any high value items then . Still works out better than both e.bay and PayPal having there cut as of old

this, and also if you sell frequently as I do they pay you within a day or so after the buyer has paid for the item, I never post items out until they have paid.

 

[Deleted member 68495]

Thanks Jeff. It's annoying, as over the years I've sold thousands of pounds of equipment. All my old Nikon film gear and darkroom stuff, a high quality saxophone, a electronically controlled telescope. The sax and telescope alone sold for over nineteen hundred pounds between them. Ah well, it is what it is I suppose but I'll never sell enough to build up a decent profile. I was going to sell a clarinet but I've offered it to a local school free of charge now -- knowing my luck they'll still complain that it needs servicing or something .

 

[F1.2]

ebay Member since Aug 2001 , 983 transactions ,Not sold anything for years now , I do buy sometimes, My 983 is still showing .

 

[the black fox]

ebay Member since Aug 2001 , 983 transactions ,Not sold anything for years now , I do buy sometimes, My 983 is still showing .

It will probably be your purchases that keep it going .

 

[the black fox]

this, and also if you sell frequently as I do they pay you within a day or so after the buyer has paid for the item, I never post items out until they have paid.

They notify you that the buyer has paid , it’s then safe to post item . Payout follows within 24 hours . I find new system far better

 

[Pixbarmy]

It's all about control!
1984!

 

[Bristolian]

I'm not a frequent use of eBay (buyer or seller) and was suspicious of the new system when I first came across it but so far it has been faster than PayPal.

 

[the black fox]

I still use PayPal for buying ,but pay it off as quickly as possible ,you can still get extended interest free deals on there, I believe at the moment anything over £100 is 12 months interest free .

 

[Milo King]

The problem lies in your opening statement ( not used for a few years ) this means your feedback has now returned to zero ,no matter what it was previously ..

It will probably be your purchases that keep it going .

Not the case, I have not used eBay for 7 odd years now yet my feedback remains and is visible.

As for the OP's situation, if you do not use eBay for a number of years, then suddenly login to sell something, then for security reasons eBay will put a hold on any funds until it is satisfied all is OK with the transaction.

 

[KIPAX]

As for the OP's situation, if you do not use eBay for a number of years, then suddenly login to sell something, then for security reasons eBay will put a hold on any funds until it is satisfied all is OK with the transaction.

which ebay should be applauded for rather than slagged off on a public forum ...IMHO

 

[AndrewFlannigan]

which ebay should be applauded for rather than slagged off on a public forum ...IMHO

"Slagging off" companies like ebay is an honourable occupation, in my opinion.

When I first started using it, ebay was a nice place to buy and sell. The feedback system worked well, there was an effecive conflict resolution system and the simple rules were enforced. Then the greedy people got involved and the site became a minefield. I might look at it from time to time but I haven't bought or sold on it for over a decade now.

 

[KIPAX]

"Slagging off" companies like ebay is an honourable occupation, in my opinion.

When I first started using it, ebay was a nice place to buy and sell. The feedback system worked well, there was an effecive conflict resolution system and the simple rules were enforced. Then the greedy people got involved and the site became a minefield. I might look at it from time to time but I haven't bought or sold on it for over a decade now.

Over a decade? yet you feel qualified to to slag it off? nice I use it regular without problem for longer than i care to remember .. Each to there own eh

 

[AndrewFlannigan]

Over a decade? yet you feel qualified to to slag it off? nice

Of course. If we are not our prejudices, then what are we?

 

[the black fox]

I'm with kipax on this, the old term ... use it or lose it springs to mind . there is no perfect selling platform . sell or P/X at a shop and you will moan there ripping you off , Facebook market place works if the items cheap enough , thats as long as the potential buyer actually turns up .. the times i've had a is it still for sale enquiry .. answered yes it is ..then nothing further is unreal ....

car boot sale o.k if you want to sell crap for peanuts .

buy and sell on here . hmmmm even then among the genuine buyers there are several buy and re-sell at a profit merchants without naming names .

 

[Mr Bump]

i still use ebay a lot for shifting loads of old IT crap from all the add hoc jobs i do.
i always wait for the 80% off fees listings and also i find the new payments system brillian its fast and flawless for me

 

[Milo King]

which ebay should be applauded for rather than slagged off on a public forum ...IMHO

Agreed

 

[Deleted member 68495]

It's not that I am generally annoyed with eBay as a whole and I've largely got over the fact that I won't get my money for a while, it's just that they got me to hand over my bank account details while lauding their wonderful payment system over the previous PayPal, without mentioning that I wouldn't get my money for weeks until the moment I actually had money to get. I'm sure it was written somewhere but even if I'd found it I wouldn't have thought it would apply to me because of my long and distinguished selling record (which I still have despite not selling for three or four years).

I'll still buy from eBay as, for a past example, where else would I buy a bag of 2mm starlock washers?! Without eBay I wouldn't have known where to start.

I still prefer the old PayPal system: I sell, you buy and send money, when I have money I send item, job done.

Further to a comment above, I don't think eBay is as good as it was when Joe Public used it for selling his unwanted stuff and getting useful feedback as to who was a good eBayer. It's mostly commercial By-It-Now stuff clogging up the system.

Same with Amazon really. Once it was Amazon selling stuff, now you have to check delivery times as if you are not careful, it's coming from an Amazon Marketplace company in China with two month delivery times. Or it's from a UK company but if it's not right for you then you have to pay to send it back.

My wife currently has two return items lost in our wonderful postal system which together are worth about sixty quid. I keep telling her not to buy from Marketplace sellers and deal only with Amazon but you can only lead the horse to water...

 

[AgentOrange76]

I'm with kipax on this, the old term ... use it or lose it springs to mind . there is no perfect selling platform . sell or P/X at a shop and you will moan there ripping you off , Facebook market place works if the items cheap enough , thats as long as the potential buyer actually turns up .. the times i've had a is it still for sale enquiry .. answered yes it is ..then nothing further is unreal ....

car boot sale o.k if you want to sell crap for peanuts .

buy and sell on here . hmmmm even then among the genuine buyers there are several buy and re-sell at a profit merchants without naming names .

Ive got to the point with a lot of things that id rather give it to a charity than have to deal with stupidity of "ill give you £50" for that £300 Item. If you price something with a discount in mind you can price yourself to high and if you start off on what you will accept you get stupid offers. Im happy to barter just dont take the p***.

I have no issue with someone buying something and selling it on for a profit. If you sold it you accepted the price given to you, if someone wants to try selling it for more that's their risk. Its what every second hand deal does be it used cars, antiques, art

 

[Deleted member 68495]

Ive got to the point with a lot of things that id rather give it to a charity than have to deal with stupidity of "ill give you £50" for that £300 Item. If you price something with a discount in mind you can price yourself to high and if you start off on what you will accept you get stupid offers. Im happy to barter just dont take the p***.

I have no issue with someone buying something and selling it on for a profit. If you sold it you accepted the price given to you, if someone wants to try selling it for more that's their risk. Its what every second hand deal does be it used cars, antiques, art

As I said in one of my posts above, I have a clarinet that I thought I'd give to the local school music department. Almost immediately after I wrote that, I wrote an email to the local school and two days later I can hear the low moan of the wind and see the tumbleweed blowing across the plains. Honestly, sometimes I think I'll give up trying to do the right thing and anything I no longer need I'll just throw in the bin; such a waste.

 

[Deleted member 68495]

It gets worse:

Today I received a message from eBay saying that my messages to my buyer were not sent as they conflict with eBay's communication policies regarding promotion of goods and services outside of eBay.

This is the missive I got from eBay:

Hi Martin,​

We wanted to let you know that some of the emails you sent to your buyers this week couldn’t be sent because they violated our member-to-member contact policy. We know how important it is to communicate with your buyers, so we wanted to remind you that your eBay emails should only be about your eBay transactions and can’t be used for promotions outside of our marketplace.​

And this is the only email I sent and that they have refused to send to my buyer:

Terence,

I have despatched your item this morning. I was going to use Royal Mail 24 but was told they are on strike tomorrow and Thursday, I just thought it was Thursday, so I have had to send it by DPD for delivery tomorrow all being well.

Cheers

Martin

Am I guilty of promoting the Royal Mail and/or DPD?

Really, it's just a bloody joke.

 

[mj4456]

Honestly, sometimes I think I'll give up trying to do the right thing and anything I no longer need I'll just throw in the bin; such a waste.

Reckon the local charity shop would take it off your hands? Much better than the bin.