School Letter to Pupils

You bet...but you don't know; and your simple French education ideal is a fantasy. :-)
 
Best primary and secondary education is apparently in scandinavian countries and UK is not doing too well in the league tables up until the higher education. It is also widely known that universities have to re-educate students some A-levels basics in year 1 of their undergraduate degrees. Maths and other scientific subjects are the prime examples here. I'd cut the time wasting media studies (this is not proper arts subject anyway) and sort out the maths, physics, economy, chemistry as a priority. I know, there aren't enough good teachers, but there are certainly plenty of university graduates, so what is the problem then?!
 
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ST4 said:
The problem, the unruly kids. It's what put me off becoming a teacher, despite a chemistry degree.
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I am sure you would do a great job in Govan public :) It may need a special vest for a start but you'd get used to it eventually.
 
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Cobra said:
The country can only support a limited number of specialised jobs.
Scenario.
A vet leaves Uni "with honors"
Fails to find a position, or indeed has the funds to start his / her own practice.
While they were studying, they worked in a bar.
So with that experience behind them, they secure a bar person's position.
They may or may not become management but become comfortable with their surroundings.

After a few years of trying to secure one of the very limited vet positions, and failing,
they stay with what they also know.

Unfortunately each generation only produces a few of these Entrepreneurs.
Everyone would love to be Richard Branson Steve Jobs (well OK maybe not him ;) ) or Bill Gates.
But these guys have (had) something special, if we all knew what that was, we would all be doing it.
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I don't think I agree here entirely. You are talking about someone failing in their career path due to whatever reason. Does it mean they shouldn't have tried and just accept job at the bar from the day they left the school? Does it mean they haven't fully exploited the job market, where a job could be in a different city for example? Is the government not doing enough? And in fact with a university degree they would be equipped well enough to apply for a managerial role in offices, etc.

I don't think a definition of successful enterprise must be synonymous with Richard Branson. There are many smaller businesses that are doing well and are creating jobs and paying taxes to the budget. Have a look for your local business meetings and chat to some people - it can be a real eye opener.
 
daugirdas said:
Best primary and secondary education is apparently in scandinavian countries and UK is not doing too well in the league tables up until the higher education. It is also widely known that universities have to re-educate students some A-levels basics in year 1 of their undergraduate degrees. Maths and other scientific subjects are the prime examples here. I'd cut the time wasting media studies (this is not proper arts subject anyway) and sort out the maths, physics, economy, chemistry as a priority. I know, there aren't enough good teachers, but there are certainly plenty of university graduates, so what is the problem then?!
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Out of interest what is the ratio of women:men teachers in the the UK?
 
daugirdas said:
I don't think I agree here entirely. You are talking about someone failing in their career path due to whatever reason. Does it mean they shouldn't have tried and just accept job at the bar from the day they left the school? Does it mean they haven't fully exploited the job market, where a job could be in a different city for example? Is the government not doing enough? And in fact with a university degree they would be equipped well enough to apply for a managerial role in offices, etc.
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All I was saying was, however good you are at school / higher education, unfortyunaly, its not always possible
to follow your chosen path, because the positions just arnt there.
I chose bar staff as an example, because I would bet that there are far more bar staff jobs
than there are vets.

daugirdas said:
I don't think a definition of successful enterprise must be synonymous with Richard Branson. There are many smaller businesses that are doing well and are creating jobs and paying taxes to the budget. Have a look for your local business meetings and chat to some people - it can be a real eye opener.
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I'm not knocking the "smaller" entrepreneur by any means,
again, the 3 I mentioned were / are probably at the top of the tree.
And good luck to the "smaller ones" but as above, if it was that easy everyone would be doing it.
All chiefs and not enough Indians.

Don't forget that even the smallest, most demeaning job in the country
(What ever that maybe) has it's place, to keep the wheels of industry / technology turning :)

I honestly don't believe that you can tell a child that he has done well,
there are no loser, the "none competitive" approach to sports etc.
This does nothing to aid the type of "utopian society" that you are trying to build.
(I'm not knocking that in the slightest either, it sounds erm perfect :) )

You and I are actually a "good generation apart" age wise,
And I think a lot of the ideas and comments, from both sides,
are also from different generations.

I saw this awhile back, and it made me grin.

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daugirdas said:
I am sure you would do a great job in Govan public :) It may need a special vest for a start but you'd get used to it eventually.
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Slag off Glasgow time again? Wondered how long it would be until you resorted to this.....and your pal ST4 chips in with a "like" as well. Classic :clap:
 
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Bobsyeruncle said:
Slag off Glasgow time again? Wondered how long it would be until you resorted to this.....and your pal ST4 chips in with a "like" as well. Classic :clap:
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So would you suggest he works in Birmingham Park View school instead? That would involve a bit of a commute there...
 
daugirdas said:
So would you suggest he works in Birmingham Park View school instead? That would involve a bit of a commute there...
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If dibble let me do 138mph I'd manage it as a daily commute. However we must think of the children and stop people going 138mph as all 138mph drivers are child murders in Britain as our laws of physics are different to the German law of physics. Drivers who go 138mph are total scum and dibble is write to try and catch them rather than the wonderful street muggers who only became street muggers as their teachers outed them for the fcuktards they are and if they wrote letters about how exams don't matter all the fcuktards would all be doctors, dentists, lawyers and dibble. Telling kids even if they aren't good at something that they are brilliant will mean we will have a nation of dibble, lawyers doctors and dentists. Hence this school is progressive and everyone who leaves it will have the pick of these honerous professions.

Plus Birmingham is almost a big a dump as Glasgow. I don't know which one I'd drive 137 or 139 to get away from so let's just leave it as 138 each way

The reason I became a scumbag is because my teacher told me I couldn't draw when I couldn't and I should try harder at maths and stop mucking around in French is the only reason I have a criminal record for being scum as if I had been told I was the next brandson I totally would have gone no more than 69mph...I'd think of the children.
 
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ST4 said:
If dibble let me do 138mph I'd manage it as a daily commute. However we must think of the children and stop people going 138mph as all 138mph drivers are child murders in Britain as our laws of physics are different to the German law of physics. Drivers who go 138mph are total scum and dibble is write to try and catch them rather than the wonderful street muggers who only became street muggers as their teachers outed them for the fcuktards they are and if they wrote letters about how exams don't matter all the fcuktards would all be doctors, dentists, lawyers and dibble. Telling kids even if they aren't good at something that they are brilliant will mean we will have a nation of dibble, lawyers doctors and dentists. Hence this school is progressive and everyone who leaves it will have the pick of these honerous professions.

Plus Birmingham is almost a big a dump as Glasgow. I don't know which one I'd drive 137 or 139 to get away from so let's just leave it as 138 each way

The reason I became a scumbag is because my teacher told me I couldn't draw when I couldn't and I should try harder at maths and stop mucking around in French is the only reason I have a criminal record for being scum as if I had been told I was the next brandson I totally would have gone no more than 69mph...I'd think of the children.
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Clearly the school you attended was short on dictionaries :lol:
 
ST4 said:
Name comes from my initials and the 4 is the sum of my day and month of birth.
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Thanks for clarifying that, due to your,mainly,asinine posts, I always believed the 4 related to your IQ.
 
So it appears the letter was plagiarised from an American blog. I was wondering about certain americanisation in the letter like 'neat'.

Is that teaching children it's ok to cut and paste rather than write your own thoughts?
 
Byker28i said:
So it appears the letter was plagiarised from an American blog. I was wondering about certain americanisation in the letter like 'neat'.

Is that teaching children it's ok to cut and paste rather than write your own thoughts?
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As mentioned in post 2.
Do try to keep up :rolleyes:
 
This tread is starting to get a little personal again,
how about we all concentrate on the subject in hand,
and not the people making the comments?

Thanks awfully :thumbs:
 
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