Recommend me a vinyl ( VINYL SHOOT CONCLUSION)

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Upgrading/ adding to my muslin.

Looking at the lastolite White vinyl on warehouse express.

Any others to consider?
 
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vinyl - give morag at tony beal a call (sales@tonybeal....)

www.tonybeal.com

I am nothing other than a very satisfied customer.

2.5 x 5m white vinyl (they do other colours too) - about £65 delivered.

obviously - you'll need a support system too.
 
aye, tony beal are good.

bessel do some too that isn't outrageously *cough*lastolite*cough* priced.
 
:plusone:: for Tony Beal from me. Bought some a couple of years ago following a thread on here and it's still going strong.
 
The Tony Beal one has gone up considerably in price when I checked a few months ago. Much more than the Bessel one now, unfortunately.
 
I have ordered the bassel which is coming tomorrow, got a shoot on suday to test it with.

Getting a grey soon as well.

Really wanted the black but the size is to small but he said he is getting the bigger ones in towards the end of feb.
 
What width did you get matey? And how much? Are you using it for a portable studio?

Sorry for all the questions! :)
 
I got the 6x2.9 for £99 +£15 next day delivery.

It's for a studio that's kind of portable. I use it in the same place where I do my shoots but it's not set up all the time.
 
Right my vinyl has arrived today!

Using it on Sunday for deffinate, maybe before to test before the client shoot.

If any one is interested I can post up how it went?
 
Me too. Am trying to convince studio I am road testing for to switch to vinyl. Would be very interested to see how you find shooting against it.
 
Ok well I will start a new thread in lighting section and post some pics and info on Sunday ( maybe before)
 
Right first time I used it. (Bessel)

First off I had to use it on carpet today as the hard floor room I normally use was too cold and the heating was not working.

Didnt make too much different on the feet but I can see it causing problems over time, possibly causing the vinyl to stretch in places.

used it without OE it and it came out well, a nice look, for me anyway. I prefer it to the OE look not and depending on set up can get a grey look to it as well which looks nice.

Definitely easier than Muslin if you have the room. and also easier to OE due to no crinkles. (done in a test)

The only problems I could see was some slight bobbles on the back drop, this was probably due to how it was 'hanging' or my poor set up positioning on the bottom not being equal. I am sure its easy enough to sort out!
 
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Robbo said:
Right first time I used it. (Bessel)

First off I had to use it on carpet today as the hard floor room I normally use was too cold and the heating was not working.

Didnt make too much different on the feet but I can see it causing problems over time, possibly causing the vinyl to stretch in places.

used it without OE it and it came out well, a nice look, for me anyway. I prefer it to the OE look not and depending on set up can get a grey look to it as well which looks nice.

Definitely easier than Muslin if you have the room. and also easier to OE due to no crinkles. (done in a test)

The only problems I could see was some slight bobbles on the back drop, this was probably due to how it was 'hanging' or my poor set up positioning on the bottom not being equal. I am sure its easy enough to sort out!
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OE?
 
Are there many benefits or pit falls to having Vinyl?
 
Benefits - easy to clean, very hard to tear/crease.
pit falls - bloody heavy, can go shiny in places after a while.

Dean:)
 
but is it better than paper??
 
personally, i think so. Almost in every way.
Only my opinion though:thumbs:

Dean:)
 
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but is it better than paper??
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No, IMO it doesn't have any benefits over paper, except for economy. Paper is smooth, hangs well and is pretty non-reflective. Vinyl can be all of these things too but a lot of the vinyl sold for photography isn't in fact suitable.
 
Thanks for that Garry, thats what i was thinking, but wanted to hear some real world opinions.. i think i'll will stick to using paper..
 
Yeah, stick to paper unless the cost of replacing it isn't making sense. Looks nicer.
 
I agree. I've toyed with all sorts and realise the cost of paper is worth it for the quality of results.
 
I disagree... Vinyl out wheighs paper on every front. Just hang it right and no probs.

Paper needs replacing/rips/dings far to easy(Ding is a dent in paper)

£200 of vinyl lasted me 5 years. Paper would have cost a fortune to do the same amount in shoots.

Coloured paper fine but for white.... Vinyl all the way. Common sense and practability dictates it's better.

No brainer! No contest!

It's only ok if you do one portrait session a fortnight, but if you are shooting a 1000 a week.........
 
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I disagree... Vinyl out wheighs paper on every front. Just hang it right and no probs.

Paper needs replacing/rips/dings far to easy(Ding is a dent in paper)

£200 of vinyl lasted me 5 years. Paper would have cost a fortune to do the same amount in shoots.

Coloured paper fine but for white.... Vinyl all the way. Common sense and practability dictates it's better.

No brainer! No contest!

It's only ok if you do one portrait session a fortnight, but if you are shooting a 1000 a week.........
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You may be right, it depends very largely on the quality of the vinyl. When vinyl backgrounds first came out they tended to be fairly decent but expensive.

Now though, everyone and his dog seems to be selling vinyl for backgrounds and it's often totally unfit for purpose - it sags, it has a poor texture or is too reflective. It's also heavy and can create safety problems.

I'm not against vinyl backgrounds, I'm just against bad ones. Paper is much better than most vinyl, but I do accept that vinyl is more economical.
 
So, would a good Vinyl out class paper?
 
So the question then is where can one buy a good quality vinyl?
 
I just contacted Tony Beal as ive heard quite a few mention them, they sell in 2.5m Widths, its £10 per meter and thats not including VAT, they also charge £5 to roll it onto a cardboard tube, then its about £20 delivery so looks like they have cottoned on and prices have risen a lot from last year, not looking quite so much the bargain any more
 
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And I still don't know what constitutes a good quality vinyl. ;)
 
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