rain at a wedding

I've seen Metz make a big hoo-ha about that little secondary flash - is it any good?
 
It adds a nice fill in, you bounce the big head and then the little one adds a bit of fill as well. Not much power in the little one but it's only ment as a fill flash.
 
PapaLazarou said:
Always pals,
just scares me when people pick up a digital camera and then get into Wedding photography. You dont know how many times Bride and Grooms call me up saying their photographer messed up what can we do.
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[S1]Shock Horror! Poster tells it how it is on TP forums![/S1]

Have to lend a general agreement to your posts Mr Papalazarou. :thumbs:

But you have to be careful with some of the delicate souls around here. I haven't managed to make anyone cry, leave the forums and take up knitting yet but I'm certainly going to be trying. ;) :lol:
 
Personally it doesn't bother me if anyone comes in with guns blazing:shrug:

As long as they have a valid point or explain their point:thumbs:

:D
 
Irritable_Rabbit said:
But you have to be careful with some of the delicate souls around here. I haven't managed to make anyone cry, leave the forums and take up knitting yet but I'm certainly going to be trying. ;) :lol:
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If you have a point to make by all means make it but this is NOT a professional photographers forum and the members here all have something to learn (even the professionals among us). Common decency and respect cost nothing and probably take less effort than sarcasm or unconstructive criticism.
 
Professional wedding photographers have to accept that digital photography has changed the game out of all recognition.It's now far more feasible for a newcomer to unpack his first digital SLR from it's box, view the shots on the preview screen and start thinking about earning money.

Those same people in the main wouldn't dream of facing the challenge of a wedding by shooting a 36 exposure role of film with sufficient faith in the gear or themselves.

The problem today, IMO is that DSLRs are fantastic bits of electronic wizardry, and people buy one before they have the faintest idea of exposure principles, and these are things you really should know before you even think about investing in a DSLR. No-one seems to think about reading a book these days. As a lad I hungrily devoured everything I could get from the local library, before I even thought about investing my hard earned in an SLR.

Basic understanding of exposure is really essential even with the exposure systems in modern cameras, and flash photography seems to be a thorny problem for many people, but it's really essential basic knowledge for a wedding tog.

Yes - a not too adept tog can muddle through a wedding by shooting hundreds even thousands of exposures, and with the advantage of digital processing do a more than passable job, but it's really all a bit 'cart before the horse'. ;)

It's the way it is though - nothing will change, and I don't see any reason for any hostility whatsoever peeps! :thumbs:
 
i think i opened a can of worms here with my comment of 'if it rains im scared' i think it all got a bit out of hand and really i think we all should be supporting each other .

i would never tell anyone their photo i not good cause everything is good to someone.

its all a matter of taste.

now can someone please remove this thread its taking over my life ha ha :naughty: :naughty: :naughty: :naughty: :naughty:
 
Steep said:
If you have a point to make by all means make it but this is NOT a professional photographers forum and the members here all have something to learn (even the professionals among us). Common decency and respect cost nothing and probably take less effort than sarcasm or unconstructive criticism.
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My point was I agree somewhat with Mr Papalazarou and comments were made because the nice gentleman did in fact point out some realities and worries about The Special Day's pictures being ruined by inexperience. Something he stated he has personal experience of.

He is newish here and may be used to a more straight forward style of forum posting amongst those with thicker skins, and may not be aware that there are some delicate souls (who we love :hug:) here who can, it appears, be upset by almost anything. :wave:

These are friendly forums but that should not make people afraid to say it how it is and voice their opinions (which does not include personal attacks naturally). Of course those opinions might upset some people with a differing view. That's the way of people it seems. :shrug: :)
 
seems i maybe opening that can again but i have seen many a 'professional' tog in the business for 20 years [at my brothers wedding] take very average phots and charged over 1000 pound.

just because you have been doing it for 20 years dont mean your any good.

my mums been making gravy for 40 years and its still lumpy but we still eat it ha ha:nuts: :naughty: :clap: :thumbs: :love: :lol: :cuckoo:
 
:lol:
 
coulnt resist the gravy comment and shes sat right here and has not got a clue.
but shes going home soon :help:
 
This is an interesting read because I've got a wedding coming up in the next few weeks and given the current weather its looking tricky. I'm doing mainly documentary style so theres a bit of a weight off but still if it rains its going to be interesting to say the least.
 
I've been to lots of weddings in the past. I was an organist of a local church, if it rained, the shots were just done inside. Just remember to use fill in flash. I've also attended a wedding as a guest at a rather posh manor house, that too was raining. All the group shots were done inside. Don't forget, outside in bright sunlit conditions you could end up with very contrasty images and unwanted shadows across faces. So shooting inside could be a bonus.

Other suggestions of making a thing of it rain are great and worth considering. Personaly, I'd never do a wedding. Good luck.
 
My issue is that inside is essentially a scout hut. So the interior isn't exactly photogenic, but its where the bride went to church so it holds special meaning to her.
 
uh oh your in trouble

pray for the sun or maybe take photos at local park or wheres the reception maybe they have a nice room;

or or or or pray for a dry day
 
Interesting thread this. I'm fairly new to wedding photography and have done a few with a pro that's been in the business for years and is quite successful. He's used quite a lot of my shots as 'payment' for me tagging along but I don't think I learnt a great deal off him. I know this sounds arrogant, and I don't really like saying this, but my pictures were a lot better than his. He used direct flash in so many shots that they were either a little blown or the lighting looked so unsubtle it ruined the shot.

Anyway, back on the point, as others have said if you're worried about rain scout the venue and have a back up plan before the day. PapaL had a good idea about using the church entrance and getting wet - or get a good umbrella. Otherwise the only real option is doing the shots inside. Wide lens, tripod and good lighting are essential for this.
 
i first started this thread many moons ago ha ha .

well the wedding in question has nearly arrived its on saturday so on friday i want you all to pray for a dry day with threads of sunshine and a warm breeze

cheers guys
you know it will work
 
CT said:
Basic understanding of exposure is really essential even with the exposure systems in modern cameras
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There isn't a better book I've found for this than Bryan Peterson's Understanding Exposure. Superb book and I know a lot of people here recommend it too. Its been revised a few times but because the basic principles are still the same an older version would be just as handy. The newer editions tell you more about what digital camera's can bring into the equation.
 
petemc said:
Oh I know she likes it, but they already admitted its not hugely photogenic :)
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I would say the same about the chapel at Gretna. A bit of tight cropping might be the only answer to ugly backgrounds.
 
Good luck for Saturday PHOTOMAD and use the church entrance like i said if it's chucking it down. Be carefull you dont electrocute yourself using the flash in the rain.
 
many thanks papa.

i had a wedding photo in the paper today

im dead chuffed check it out another thread

dnt be too hard on me

b and g were pleased:wave: :wave:
 
Post a few pictures up if it rains, so we can see how you did. And dont be scared if it does rain, use the entrance but watch you dont cast shadows inside the entrance doors if fire the flash head on. Use a stofen and point the flash head up at 45 degrees. Oh and if you do stand outside and the Bride & Groom are in the entrance, take care not to capture the rain drops with the flash.
 
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