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hey there folks
i have a wedding next sat. weather forcast looks grim.
only done weddings in the sun and im scared.

any help gratefully received.

venue is old manor house so lots of big rooms inside and giant fireplaces but i prefer my pics outside

please help and wish the sun to shine in south devon on saturday:D
 
Practise holding a big umbrella and shooting :) I had to today :(

Scout the venue and find alternative locations that are dry. Use big umbrellas for some fun shots in the rain (keeping the bride and groom dry is important, happy people and all that) and look in control even if the rain is your worst enemy, as it is mine.

Venue sounds good, so you shouldn't lose out really :)
 
cheers i just keep saying it will be ok it will be ok over and over

do you put umbrellas in the shot or quickly swipe them away at the last moment.

i dont think my bride would like umbrellas on her big day!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
I try to keep them out the shot too, but some people use them as part of the fun. Of course they´d have to be the right colours etc and free from logos unless it was related to the wedding.
 
Will be thinking of you!

Trust all will be well!:thumbs:
 
just rather it not rain really!!!!!!!!!


dull is fine windy is sort of fine but the wet stuff is a big nooooooooooooo

going to check out the venue again on monday and get some proper test shots in the bag just to ease my mind.

nice big rooms but small windows

god i sound like a moaning millie.

oh well i will keep you posted
 
photomad said:
nice big rooms but small windows
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I have a few of them coming up. Not good.

My answer is wireless flash, two heads, two tripods and an assistant. Only way to get decent results without having to bump the ISO. This way I can keep it at 100 and not worry about grainy 400+ shots.

As for the rain, its just one of those things we have to put with. Bride and Groom should understand.

I actually had a couple of clients over today and we talked about a rainy day and what they wanted to do if it was. Only answer really is to have the majority of shots taken inside and the ones outside under a nice big umbrella.

At the end of the day it is something beyond the togs control, if people dont understand this then its their issue.

Good luck bud. Sure you'll be fine.

King.
 
Make a thing of it, not just brollies but bright yellow macks and sou'westers with big wellie boots and have them dancing in puddles if they are up for it :)
 
i can assure you the bride will NOT be up for it if you get what i mean ha ha

oh well happy days
 
In preperation for the wedding I shot yesterday I spoke with the Vicar and agreed to set up a couple of studio lights in a corner of the church (plan b, just in case) I could not get any shots outside.

He was very helpful and duly agreed, as it happened the weather broke and I was able to take many outside, I did however use the lights once the guests had gone on to reception to take a few shots of the bride and groom inside.

Best bit of advice I would give is do a visit to the venue beforehand, take some test shots and prepare for any possible problems, get friendly with the vicar etc....you will generally find them most accomodating.
 
Janice, you just can't help yourself can you? ;)
 
If you have never done a Wedding before in the rain and your asking for help then maybe you shouldn't be doing Weddings at all. What i mean by that is if your inexperienced then you shouldn't be doing a Wedding. I have been a pro Wedding photographer for 16 years, and a Wedding photographer should know what to do whatever the weather is like.
 
PapaLazarou said:
If you have never done a Wedding before in the rain and your asking for help then maybe you shouldn't be doing Weddings at all.
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If you're never done a wedding in the rain then you shouldn't be doing one?

Sounds a bit chicken and egg to me...
 
yep..you cant get the exprerience without doing it can you. :shrug:
 
PapaLazarou said:
If you have never done a Wedding before in the rain and your asking for help then maybe you shouldn't be doing Weddings at all. What i mean by that is if your inexperienced then you shouldn't be doing a Wedding. I have been a pro Wedding photographer for 16 years, and a Wedding photographer should know what to do whatever the weather is like.
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Well? Share some tips with us then, why don't you?:thumbs:

I have done a good few and never had rain too far into the day.

What do you do if you do not have a private studio or access to one?
 
How can you gain experience if you don't do the job? How can you find out if you don't ask?
 
PapaLazarou said:
If you have never done a Wedding before in the rain and your asking for help then maybe you shouldn't be doing Weddings at all. What i mean by that is if your inexperienced then you shouldn't be doing a Wedding. I have been a pro Wedding photographer for 16 years, and a Wedding photographer should know what to do whatever the weather is like.
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What a load of manure, how can you get experience to become pro if by your reckoning you shouldn't do weddings unless you are a pro :shrug:
 
I am saying photographing a Wedding is a big thing and you should be learning the trade of a Wedding photographer by working with a Wedding photographer. It's not the type of thing you get yourself into without the experience doing that could be a big disaster. And what will you tell the Bride and Groom if you mess up (Oh i have only done a few Weddings, and i am only learning). You all don't understand the type of pressure you are under photographing a Wedding. There are no excuses if it goes wrong, you have gota get it right and asking what should i do if it rains says photomad has no real Wedding experience and that is not good when photographing a Wedding. That's all i mean.
 
PapaLazarou said:
I am saying photographing a Wedding is a big thing and you should be learning the trade of a Wedding photographer by working with a Wedding photographer. It's not the type of thing you get yourself into without the experience doing that could be a big disaster. And what will you tell the Bride and Groom if you mess up (Oh it's my 1st job and i am only learning). You all don't understand the type of pressure you are under photographing a Wedding. There are no excuses if it goes wrong, you have gota get it right and asking what should i do if it rains says photomad has no real Wedding experience and that is not good when photographing a Wedding. That's all i mean.
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I agree with justabout all of what you say but tell us what do you do when it rains on one of your weddings?

I would like to believe that having a private studio will solve this problem?
 
thanx for your opinion papa l .
but you have made really sad now i thought this foum was relly supportive and friendly


then you came along cheers
 
You may not agree with what he said but he did have a valid point.

With most photography there is always another day to get the shots .... You do not get that chance with wedding photography.

You did not say if you were shooting this as a paid photographer or as a favour to the bride and groom. I assume PapaLazarou thought you were being paid as the main tog.

:canon:
 
maybe papa should find out the facts first.

i am the main tog and i am being paid i have never studied with another tog and i do very nicely thank you.

anybody can call themselves a wedding tog its getting word of mouth work that means your doing good
 
We've done two weddings now. The first we were there as secondary togs but spent most of the day there - most of you have seen the results and there were mixed feelings/reactions towards them. We were happy with them and the bride/her family were thrilled. Needless to say we've come across as a lot more professional than the "professional tog" who she's still trying to get in touch with in order to get some prints ordered. Shes had a few hundred from us in varying sizes and styles.

The second wedding we did was more difficult - inside shots for the most part in less than forgiving conditions - less than 10 shots outside, over two days, main photographers. Came away with lots of good shots, again the bride is very happy with them and is in the process of distributing cds for her family to look at and order prints from.

Papa does have a valid point, but I'm not sure that the only way to get experience is to help out an already experienced wedding photographer. There are some truely awful "professionals" out there, there was that one on tv a few months ago. Everyone has their own style - some people are better at organising and capturing formal "posed" shots, others like Sue and I prefer to capture the candid moments when nobody is aware the camera is pointed at them (as well as capturing the formal stuff). It makes for a more interesting wedding album (in my opinion).

As for rain, I'm not sure what I'd do in the circumstances - we've been lucky so far but if we keep doing weddings its something that is invariably going to come up and we'll just have to deal with it - like having to shoot at ISO 1600 in a curry house for formal posed wedding shots :p , its sound advice to scope out your venues beforehand though without question. It always helps to be prepared.

The forum is friendly and supportive but theres also concern about running before you can walk and from papa's point of view as a professional wedding tog you should know how to take photos in the rain - thats fair enough and the wedding photography industry is very competitive. Its the biggest thing for me and sue - the one chance to get the shots. Take the shots twice, one on each camera if you can (and have two bodies).

We'll worry and worry about it until the day, once we take the first picture we seem to forget about anything else and just get in the "zone", taking photos, making sure the photos look okay.

I dunno what else to say really. Just good luck for the day I think :)
 
blimey you thought that through:)

i agree some awful togs out there and i am doing ok so im happy and my clients happy

i know that i can take loads of pics inside as i have been to the venue and reception venue three times and going again on friday.

i was just hoping for some support and was not expecting to be knocked for doing something i love doing



we all have opinions and some people are just more tactful than others
 
As long as you and your clients are happy mate, nothing else matters. What you've got to remember about this lot is they cast a much more technical eye over your pictures than anyone you and they can be a lot harsher too. They'll spot the speaker sticking out of the side of someone's head that you never knew was there.

Unfortunately, tact isn't something they teach you at school, god knows I've been tactless on here (and elsewhere) many a time before. Best thing to do is to try not to take it to heart, take a deep breath and re-read someone's post before you post a reply to it to see if theres possibly any other meaning to what they've said.

As I said, you're happy, the clients are happy, thats the end of it. ;)
 
:thumbs: :thumbs: thank you thank you thank you

i think i am a tad sensitive sometimes and that makes me sad. i was i was tougher

u have made me feel better

i wouldnt mind someone c and cing any photo i take because thats their opinion and for example something i love u might hate and vice versa

so cheers for the reply and i will remember your name as one of the good guys
 
lol, thanks :) And I'm glad I've managed to perk you up a little, I can be overly sensitive when it comes to people and their percieved opinions too - I'm learning to step back, think about it a bit and post once I've thought about what they really might have meant. Most of the time, everything you get told on here is helpful, honest ;)

Its been a while since we've been to the zoo, thinking about arranging another trip up there - possibly a week today if the weather is looking semi-okay. If you're anywhere near Chester Zoo and aren't doing anything look out for a thread soon ;)

Should be a couple of us going anyways.
 
cheers miles away in deepest darkest devon look forward to seeing the pics

do an elephant for me thats take a pic of one ha ha
 
lol, I think the keeper's might chuck me out.

Got a couple of elephant shots somewhere, loads from a special trip out to knowsley safari park I need to go back to processing again too. Too much time taken up by processing wedding shots and stuff for work at the minute ;)

I'll see what I can do re an elephant shot :p
 
cool still cant upload a pic

what did you think of my flower

be honest i can take it?
 
Honestly? I'd need to see a larger version of it - its quite small. From what I can see it looks sharp, all the important things are in focus and the colouring looks nice and natural.
 
I didn't mean to put photomad down, it was meant to be advice. If you ask a question and say (only done weddings in the sun and im scared) then as a Wedding photographer you shouldn't be going into a Wedding scared. If your scared then you are inexperienced and i wouldn't want an inexperienced photographer photographing my Wedding. As for conditions you should be making contracts up that the Bride and Groom to sign, which states that you are not responsible for situations outside your control. Meaning if the Vicar or register people dont want you taking picture inside or that the weather is bad you might not be able to get the type picture they expect. If it's raining then all you can do is do the shots inside. Or you can place them under the church entrance and you stand outside and get wet, that's what i do.
 
ok papa

maybe i worded it wrong

lets be pals i probably will need your advice in the future so hope we are ok:thumbs: :thumbs: :thumbs: :naughty: :naughty: :naughty:
 
Always pals,
just scares me when people pick up a digital camera and then get into Wedding photography. You dont know how many times Bride and Grooms call me up saying their photographer messed up what can we do.
Rain or shine you should always know what to do.
Get youself a Metz 76 MZ-5 Digital flash with NiMH Battery.
You can light up any place with that beast, it's the best flash for a Weding photographer.
Good luck.
 
PapaLazarou said:
Always pals,
just scares me when people pick up a digital camera and then get into Wedding photography. You dont know how many times Bride and Grooms call me up saying their photographer messed up what can we do.
Rain or shine you should always know what to do.
Get youself a Metz 76 MZ-5 Digital flash with NiMH Battery.
You can light up any place with that beast, it's the best flash for a Weding photographer.
Good luck.
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:eek: I am going to assume that you bounce your flash and do not shoot it straight right?

This is surely the only reason you would want to use such a beast at a wedding right?

:D
 
Yep you bounce the flash but it also has a small flash head facing forward as well so you get the bounce but also a little fill in light. God if i shot straight with the Metz they would need factor 30 sun cream LOL.
 
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