Photoshop CC & Lightroom 5 $9.99/month Offer

graphilly said:
Well the official line when the £8.78 offer was introduced was to allow users to switch over.
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Oh right. I didn't know that. You would think they would email or let you know some way, although I guess there might be a fair amount of folk who don't know/don't bother and keep paying full whack.
 
So to clarify, this £8.78 price is only valid for the first year, then it is liable to increase?

Still seems like a bargain to me, I was considering LR5 anyway.
 
Thmaga said:
So to clarify, this £8.78 price is only valid for the first year, then it is liable to increase?

Still seems like a bargain to me, I was considering LR5 anyway.
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Adobe have "hinted" that the £8.78 price will be continued, but obviously, they don't want to commit to that as there are a lot of things that could impact on the price. If it does rise, which seems unlikely, people can always cancel.
 
I can understand the comments about how you can always cancel, my concern is that I put a years worth of photos through LR5 and make edits etc, then the time comes I think it's no longer worth it and I can't downgrade the catalog back to my old version.

I know this will be great for some , just not for me right now.
 
Matt-P said:
I can understand the comments about how you can always cancel, my concern is that I put a years worth of photos through LR5 and make edits etc, then the time comes I think it's no longer worth it and I can't downgrade the catalog back to my old version.

I know this will be great for some , just not for me right now.
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Couldn't you change to the old process version, then save xml files, then open in lr4? Know it's a hassle but maybe an option if you really needed to?
 
I think Adobe will keep it at this price, if you get in now, but no company can guarantee not to alter prices over an extended period of time.
 
I was going to go for the student CC, but this looks a better offer than that... Lowest priced student package I can find is £15.88 pcm although that is a larger package.
 
wooster said:
OTOH their t&c state the licence can be renewed at the end of 12 months "at the current price" which surely means todays current price.. or does it?
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If it were the price that it is now, the would say the price, wording it that way it probably means the current price when you renew. What that is depends on how many people they get to sign up with the new offer.

From the outside it looks like their plans may not be working out. The the single app price was £17.58. Then they offered Photoshop and Lightroom to owners of CS3 onwards for half price if they signed up before 31st Dec. Now the offer is open to anyone. Wait longer and they could offer the CC suite for £10. ;) :lol:

Not automatically changing single app Photoshop users to the new pricing was a bit underhand imho. Not everyone monitors the internet for Adobe news.

Imho, what Adobe should have done, if they were going to the subscription model, was offer say Photoshop as a Creative Cloud option with a minimum of one years subscription, but after that year if you decided not to renew, you had the version of Photoshop up to date to that time as a perpetual licence. If there were some new features that you felt you needed in the future you would have to commit to another years subscription.

The changes in prices and offers over the last few months may be a sign that people are not being attracted to the subscription model. Add to that the problems Adobe have had with their security, and the personal details of users being taken, and I don't think that there is much confidence in them at the moment. :nono:

If I were buying, I wouldn't be doing it directly from Adobe becuase of their security issues.
I would never 'rent' software though. :nono: You never know how your circumstances can change, especially nowadays, and having the software stop working if you are unable to carry on playing is not appealing in any way. :shrug:
 
I believe you can keep your existing versions of Photoshop and within cc there is an option to save files as a cs6 version or you can always save as a tiff which would open on any earlier version of Photoshop.
 
Seems a very good offer, as it stands I'm a full cc (education) subscriber so am going to see if I can swap to this as I almost never use anything other than Lightroom and Photoshop
 
A little follow up for anyone else thinking of changing - went through no hassle :)

Granted the call took 15 minutes (two of them getting through menus), but both the sales guy I placed the photography deal order with and the cancellation chap were top notch and very helpful.
 
:D:DIt does seem like a good offer if the price was constant. It isn't such a good offer if you pay Adobe £100 for software for a year and then they double or triple the price if you want to keep using all the files you have made dependent on it. Of course you could faff around saving them as TIFFs ( no use for saving reversible editing of course ) but it's hardly convenient and personally I'd rather get the full functionality and time saving of CS5 than have to resort to working in TIFF or backing everything up in TIFF or some other workaround.

However, having slept on this and pondering the use of the words "current price" in their t&c I don't see this as meaning the price at that time. If it meant that then they would have said that. It seems more likely to mean the price which is currently being asked.

In the linked article in my last post their marketing person clearly stated that this was not a time limited price and would be the price you paid in future. Their spokesperson said "To be clear, $9.99 is not an introductory price. It is the price for those of you who sign up by December 31, 2013. " Given this and taking into consideration their use of the phrase "current price" in the t&c I'd assume that they intend to keep the price pretty much this for the foreseeable.

Now, this is in the US of course but surely it must be the same in the UK. I know that Adobe are seen as the bankers of the software world but I haven't really bought into the idea the Adobe particularly rips off Europe and I'd expect them to do similar here as in the US ( though at a greater "current price" ;)

Anyway, I've gone for it. Maybe I'll be moaning about what barstewards Adobe are in a year's time and frantically converting 1,000s of files into TIFFs before my subs runs out but I do hope not:D
 
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wooster said:
In the linked article in my last post their marketing person clearly stated that this was not a time limited price and would be the price you paid in future. If this is not the case then Adobe are not being very fair.
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Must be a time limited price, why else, would they state that you need to subscribe before 2nd December :thinking:

Don't think they will raise the price. If they double or triple the price, large numbers of subscribers will leave, never to come back!
 
i see it says "when you sign up for a 1 year plan" what happens the next year once they've hooked you? i have bought lightroom 5 and it will suit for my needs and giving adobe my bank details again ...........i don't think so :lol:
 
Our posts crossed John. I agree especially given the quote I mentioned above
 
No subscription will ever be constant - just look at sky, or line rental, or fuel prices (I know not technically a subscription :)), or...

I agree about security, but I suspect that its very very tight now, more so that something thats not been so publically hacked, of course thats guesswork or hope though.

One thing for the subscription model though is that you do get the upgrades for free, of course its never good for some, after all I've no doubt there are plenty of happy Lightroom one customers out there.
 
Read it and find out ;)

(Yeah it is a little but there is a little old rumour squashing too)
 
Well I am still to be convinced re Adobe's shocking lack of security. Just about everyone I know has a hacked copy of LR/PS/PSE (not me as I am actually paid lol!) and within hours of Adobe launching this new CC they had a major security breach which affected over 2 million customers!

The less Adobe know about me the better until they tighten up their act!

Andy
 
I like this bit;

"Q. “They must be hurting for revenue.” (direct quote from Facebook)
A.Adobe had hoped to have one million subscribers by the end of year. They hit their goal nearly four months early, and now Adobe’s stock is at an all-time high. Yeah, they’re hurting’ ;-)"

It seems Adobe need to get information about their strategy to the people who answer the phones though
 
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I had already subscribed for just Photoshop CC at £17.58 per month when I heard about this deal. I contacted Adobe via their chat system and they let me create a new subscription for the photography plan at £8.70 per month and when I gave them the new order number they cancelled my single product subscription. I had already bought Lightroom 5 unfortunately, but I still think this is good price, less than 3 pints of beer a month.
 
Does seem they're being pretty good about people downgrading.
 
johnnypanic said:
Head over to Scott Kelby's blog today, should answer most people's questions
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It is to Kelby's advantage to encourage people to sign up for Adobe products as his business is built upon Adobe products, and Photoshop in particular. If people don't upgrade, they don't need to learn new features, they don't have any new courses to flog.

Kelby
My understanding is they are not planning to raise the monthly subscription rate. I imagine it’s because if they did after a year or so, they would lose a lot of customers, right?
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Q. I didn’t see that one coming.
A. Me either.
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So how much in the know is he? Should we be taking a lot of notice of him, seeing as he is slightly biased? :shrug:

Adobe had hoped to have one million subscribers by the end of year. They hit their goal nearly four months early, and now Adobe’s stock is at an all-time high. Yeah, they’re hurting’ ;-)
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If they are doing so well with their strategy, why reduce prices? :shrug:

JohnN said:
Does seem they're being pretty good about people downgrading.
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Why didn't they do this automatically? :shrug: They, you would assume, know exactly who has subscribed to what package.

I don't understand why they are offering time limited offers if they are so keen to give great deals out of the goodness of their hearts because they are doing so well. :thinking:

JohnN said:
One thing for the subscription model though is that you do get the upgrades for free
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That's correct, but you also become a Beta tester as well, because they no longer do a raft of updates every 12-18 months or so that have been Beta tested.

There is also a school of thought that says Adobe are finding innovation harder, and new features will slow down, especially without the impetus of an impending need for a load of eye catching features to attract new users and upgraders.

According to Scott Kelby though they seem to be doing great. :thumbs: :lol:
 
I'm not sure you're right about being a beta tester, it's just they now release a feature when it's ready rather than waiting for a bundle of features and fixes, having been with the cloud for a while now bug fixes come quite often too.

I'll also ask how many stable releases have you seen without bugs, so you could say you're a tester on everything as no company has a paid tester pool as large as their user base.

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They didn't do it automatically because they're not stupid or possibly because it may be seen as altering a contract without the subscribers permission (and if it is no doubt someone would sue them)

It's a short term deal because it's tied in with the whole black Friday thing that's big in the US.
 
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Don't understand all the negativity :shrug:

It's a great deal, if it suits you, if not no harm move on.

Cloud based services are here to stay. As a business model, they've very useful, as you know exactly how much you have coming in each month. With perpetual licences there are always going to be highs and lows.

Adobe aren't doing this, to be nice guys, they've constructed a model that they believe will work and their current balance sheets appear to back that up.
 
I know what you mean - still people don;t like change (just look at the thread about the forum changing), but I do get that they'd want the new stuff but when they want it and not before - also to pay once when you can afford it is pretty sensible and how I buy everything other than this oddly.
 
This is a great deal at £8.78 per month. I chatted yesterday with an assistant on there site, and he said it won't go up after 12 months. So we will have to see.
 
2 years ago my company said" we've signed a deal for ten years" still closed the factory! they will find reasons/excuses to push it up even if very slowly :thumbsdown: as for scott kelby he's so deep in with adobe he'll quote any thing they say with glee they are paying him. the reason was answered by kelby himself adobe smashed their target by 4 months then the bean counters came in and said theres loads more amateur photographers out there were missing out on so lets throw them a deal now they have the pros and the amateurs!
 
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Well I've signed up. Having calculated how much I generally spend on upgrading this software, I thought the deal was worth grabbing for the future if they keep it at the same price more or less. If they don't then maybe I'll have lost out but I'd be surprised if they bump it by any noticeable amount . I don't infer any sinister motives from the price drop, or that they are "in trouble" in any way, I reckon this was just a business involved in a fairly major new venture which they made a price for and reviewed it in light of the success or otherwise of the product.
 
I'm thinking about it. Just wondering has any one used the web hosting thing that comes ewith it?
 
eeyore said:
I'm thinking about it. Just wondering has any one used the web hosting thing that comes ewith it?
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No - not used it, I might take a look when I get some quiet time - but it wasn't a deal breaker either way for me.
 
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