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joescrivens said:
any justification for this?

as my mortal enemy Neil said - they are just different OS's so it's personal preference to how they work, get yourself down to pc world and try them both out then pick the one that suits you best
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Just as far as swapping parts out for newer items, and having the sky as the limit as far as customising the components go. It's been a while since I had a mac though, maybe you can upgrade things like psu/motherboard/cpu quite easily these days? It always seemed to me that when macs got old, you could either put more ram in, or just buy a new one.
 
Chris Primadona said:
Just as far as swapping parts out for newer items, and having the sky as the limit as far as customising the components go. It's been a while since I had a mac though, maybe you can upgrade things like psu/motherboard/cpu quite easily these days? It always seemed to me that when macs got old, you could either put more ram in, or just buy a new one.
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interesting analogy.

So it's easier to swap out the mirror, processor chip etc from a dSLR than from a point and shoot?
 
changing parts on a Mac is not as easy as PC.

i.e iMac.

The whole station is build in 1 so you got to be very careful when taking it apart .......

I know Mac user will say the mac will never break and you won't need to change parts ..... but when a PC break i can fix it easily with no problem.

That doesn't mean i'm saying mac is bad and pc is good, they both very good and they surf different purpose in a way as well.

Is like comparing a DSLR to a Video Camera.
 
Emma

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I was a PC man and swore I'd never get a mac, my wife bought one and I must admit I loved it, I now have a macbook air and a 27" Imac which I run Fusion on to give me windows so that I can use my software that is not mac applicable
 
joescrivens said:
interesting analogy.

So it's easier to swap out the mirror, processor chip etc from a dSLR than from a point and shoot?
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Not much easier, but easier. I was thinking more that you can put some different glass on a dslr instead of buying an entire new camera system when you want to do something different. But good point on the shutter replacement. I'm not sure many bridge cameras have a mechanical shutter as such, but if they did it would probably be cheaper to bin them and buy a new camera rather than replace, unlike a dslr.
Anyway this is just my humble opinion, maybe one day I will give macs a try again. Sorry for taking this a bit offtopic :D
 
Chris Primadona said:
Not much easier, but easier. I was thinking more that you can put some different glass on a dslr instead of buying an entire new camera system when you want to do something different. But good point on the shutter replacement. I'm not sure many bridge cameras have a mechanical shutter as such, but if they did it would probably be cheaper to bin them and buy a new camera rather than replace, unlike a dslr.
Anyway this is just my humble opinion, maybe one day I will give macs a try again. Sorry for taking this a bit offtopic :D
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well, the whole lens analogy is more like the usb accessories like printers with macs and pc's wouldn't you say? The lens isn't an internal part of the device like your analogy referred to.

In which case an ipad would be more like a point and shoot and a mac/pc like a dslr
 
the OP hasn't replied yet posted the same debate many times during the time she could have been commenting here. Anyone else hearing this:

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joescrivens said:
interesting analogy.

So it's easier to swap out the mirror, processor chip etc from a dSLR than from a point and shoot?
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I think he meant it's easier to do a lens upgrade (think cpu) on a DSLR than a point and shoot. Adding and changing components is easier on a PC and the PC can be more focused to what you want to do, just like a DSLR. Apple offer you their box, and it stays the way you got it, most of the time.

As far as people saying that Adobe this or that licence is transferable from PC to Mac, people use other software too, which may not be transferable, or indeed not have a version on both platforms. Or they may use one platform at work, and wish to use another at home, but need access to both. I think Bootcamp fills that niche, but you have to start off with a Mac I think.

I bought a PC from a chap on here which had a HD that made it bootable as a Mac, but the HD was damaged and so I can't use it. It was not part of the sale though, just a bonus (if it worked) but shows it is possible, though not as easy, to run a Mac OS on a PC.
 
badboy1984 said:
changing parts on a Mac is not as easy as PC.
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Be worth having a look at a Mac Pro ... side panel comes off without tools, hard drives are sledge mounted, memory is on boards that simply slide out.

It is a really well thought out and engineered design, not a cable in sight.
 
joescrivens said:
well, the whole lens analogy is more like the usb accessories like printers with macs and pc's wouldn't you say? The lens isn't an internal part of the device like your analogy referred to.

In which case an ipad would be more like a point and shoot and a mac/pc like a dslr
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I did mean more like swapping out your motherboard and cpu when newer software demands a top end machine to run at its best!

Its a few hundred quid for a really good motherboard/cpu/memory bundle on ebay that will bring a 5 year old pc up to date. I'm pretty sure it will cost a fair bit more to bring a 5 year old mac up to date. If you have loads of cash to spare and like the system though, then great stuff. :thumbs:
 
Chris Primadona said:
I did mean more like swapping out your motherboard and cpu when newer software demands a top end machine to run at its best!

Its a few hundred quid for a really good motherboard/cpu/memory bundle on ebay that will bring a 5 year old pc up to date. I'm pretty sure it will cost a fair bit more to bring a 5 year old mac up to date. If you have loads of cash to spare and like the system though, then great stuff. :thumbs:
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oh i understand what you mean with regard to upgrades. But i just didn't see how the point and shoot and dslr analogy fit this model. In one we are talking about internal parts of a device and in with a dslr we are talking about accessories to the device.
 
Stock answer.

If you have to ask...........then you are not ready for a Mac!
 
neil_g said:
on the flip side, no design/graphics dept worth their salt will use glossy screens.

personally i hate gloss, its like trying to work on a mirror.
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I know what you mean, I have a Mac Pro and use a couple of Eizo ColorEdge monitors, last thing I wanted was one of those glossy screens.

I also have a Matias keyboard and Logitech mouse, whoever in Apple designed their versions wants shooting :D
 
Martyn... said:
Be worth having a look at a Mac Pro ... side panel comes off without tools, hard drives are sledge mounted, memory is on boards that simply slide out.

It is a really well thought out and engineered design, not a cable in sight.
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I use Mac Pro at work to do multimeda stuff, yes Mac Pro is more like a desktop PC etc but the cost of buying one is expensive. Mac Pro cost from 2k to 4k and then you have to buy a monitor as well, which is you like glossy monitor like everyone mention, that would add up to overall cost. Plus my original comment was targeting at iMac which the OP wanted to buy, upgrading/changing parts on the iMac is not as easy as we all think.

Surely the Mac Pro is very good and high performance, if budget is the problem then i would stay away .........

To behonest, Alienware computer can pretty much go head to head with Mac Pro .........
 
Chris Primadona said:
Lets just agree to disagree here!

I agree that macs are a waste of money and disagree that they are as good as a pc :lol:

I'm off lol
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While Macs are expensive, to say they're "not as good as a PC" when the hardware is pretty much exactly the same is extremely ignorant.

You sound like one of those guys who has probably never used a Mac and hates simply for the sake of it. You're just as bad as the clueless fanboys.
 
onona said:
While Macs are expensive, to say they're "not as good as a PC" when the hardware is pretty much exactly the same is extremely ignorant.

You sound like one of those guys who has probably never used a Mac and hates simply for the sake of it. You're just as bad as the clueless fanboys.
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he's only joking!!!! lighten up dude!
 
neil_g said:
on the flip side, no design/graphics dept worth their salt will use glossy screens.

personally i hate gloss, its like trying to work on a mirror.
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You do know that not all Apple monitors are glossy, right? My Macbook Pro has the non-glossy screen, and here at work, which happens to be one of the most prestigious film visual effects studios in all of Europe so colour fidelity is absolutely crucial, we use them.

:P
 
onona said:
I'm not a dude, and I'm tired of people cluttering up discussions with pointless and ignorant bias. Mac hating got stale 10 years ago.
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Only 10 years ago? I thought it was 11

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onona said:
While Macs are expensive, to say they're "not as good as a PC" when the hardware is pretty much exactly the same is extremely ignorant.

You sound like one of those guys who has probably never used a Mac and hates simply for the sake of it. You're just as bad as the clueless fanboys.
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Wow that was a bit rude! It was said as a lighthearted remark. I have owned a mac in the past, and still use an up to date one quite a lot. I Just don't get along with them as much as I do with my pcs (Maybe due to having a background as an IT engineer with IBM). I just like getting my hands dirty when it comes to upgrading my own machine, a bit like some people get from swapping a gearbox in their car.
Jumping to the defence of the mac with all that pent up passion makes you seem a bit of a fanboy to me! :lol:

Each to their own though. I can see the attraction of the mac, they are lovely looking machines with quite a stable idiot proof OS, but I take the price/performance ratio into most things I buy and look at future upgrading paths as part of that too. Offer me a Mac Pro for free and I will take and use it, but I wouldn't consider buying a 12 core one for £5k :P
 
I switched from PC to the 27" iMac about 8 weeks ago and haven't looked back since, yes they're quite highly priced for the spec that you get.

However you get what you pay for, it oozes build quality and the operating system itself has never crashed on me once. I'm only new to photography however it's doing everything I need at lightning quick speeds.

Obviously nobody can make your mind up for you, but I don't regret for one moment buying mine. In fact the only regret I have is not buying one sooner :)
 
onona said:
You do know that not all Apple monitors are glossy, right? My Macbook Pro has the non-glossy screen
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i am aware of that yes. most however are glossy and the standard option is glossy.

and here at work, which happens to be one of the most prestigious film visual effects studios in all of Europe so colour fidelity is absolutely crucial, we use them.
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:shrug:

im only going on what ive read, seen, been told by those in the business.. stands to reason though, glossy does artificially boost contrast etc.
 
Chris Primadona said:
Wow that was a bit rude! It was said as a lighthearted remark. I have owned a mac in the past, and still use an up to date one quite a lot. I Just don't get along with them as much as I do with my pcs (Maybe due to having a background as an IT engineer with IBM). I just like getting my hands dirty when it comes to upgrading my own machine, a bit like some people get from swapping a gearbox in their car.
Jumping to the defence of the mac with all that pent up passion makes you seem a bit of a fanboy to me! :lol:

Each to their own though. I can see the attraction of the mac, they are lovely looking machines with quite a stable idiot proof OS, but I take the price/performance ratio into most things I buy and look at future upgrading paths as part of that too. Offer me a Mac Pro for free and I will take and use it, but I wouldn't consider buying a 12 core one for £5k :P
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I couldn't agree more.

I'm IT/Technician background but working as multimedia these days now.

Component on the mac is same as pc ....... people need to know that. On any apple product, you paying for design and development. So it kinda make you want to upgrade the whole machine when ever you need a new station.

PC is for people that want to get their hands on dirty and DIY their own station. Upgrade when you needed etc.

Surely window run alot of stuff at the background of the OS where as the Mac doesn't but this doesn't make window is bad. People say Mac never crash is not true, because it depend what you doing to the machine. I crash on working with video alot even with Mac Pro as well.
 
badboy1984 said:
PC is for people that want to get their hands on dirty and DIY their own station. Upgrade when you needed etc.
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True, if I wanted to return to a PC I would build my own, that way I could ensure I had the best components in it.
 
onona said:
If "ac" there was a typo of PC, I have to disagree. Macs retain incredibly high resale prices, as do all Apple products.

Regarding some earlier posts about which machines are faster, I'll also have to side with Mac. The OS has far, far fewer overheads than Windows, which frees up your CPU and RAM, allowing for a smoother and faster experience, generally.

I switched to Mac five years ago after 20 years of PCs, and I'll never go back. Why hassle with Windows and all the crap that goes with it when you can use OS X instead? My first Mac was a MacBook and five years later I still use it everyday - yet my previous laptops did not have those kinds of lifespans. Since then I've also bought an i7 MacBook Pro and a Mac Mini and I just love them. Macs are a pleasure to use, and are extraordinarily reliable, unlike the Linux machine I have to use at work and the Windows computers I used for two decades.
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No ac was a typo on mac (missed the m) not on PC :thumbs:

Im a apple fan boy too :)
 
Thank you for your comments, as advised I am going to go PC World and the Apple store tonight to give them both a go. As I have all my software for PC I am leaning more towards a PC as the cost of buying the software again will be way over my budget.
:) Thanks again!
 
Emma - can I just refer you back to post #45 earlier in the thread...

Please do NOT post the same question 3 times over in 3 different areas of the forum again...
 
gingerweasel said:
I've moved back and forth between the two and in general prefer Apple's offerings. The two main reasons for this have already been touched upon but I'll mention them again:

Screen - Nothing I've seen available for a PC comes close to matching the quality of Apple screens.

Resale Price - Apple computers retain their value very well which generally means that what you've spent beyond the cost of a PC (around £300-400 in my experience) is what you will make back over the resale of an equivelent PC. Swings and roundabouts.
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But you can use any screen on a pc, and there are screens available from specialists that put Apples best effort to shame.
 
Ah, sod it - I'll say it.... macs look better. I'd rather wipe my bum with a razorblade than have some of those awful PC contraptions sullying my nicely designed home interior ;)
 
don't like the mac monitor (imac) far far too glossy and hate the one button mouse.

for the same price as a 27inch imac quad core 2.7ghz 4 gig ram 500mb grafix you can get a quad core 3.4ghz 16gig ram, 1gb grafix 3d ready blah blah blah.
 
specialman said:
Ah, sod it - I'll say it.... macs look better. I'd rather wipe my bum with a razorblade than have some of those awful PC contraptions sullying my nicely designed home interior ;)
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:lol: Couldn't agree more. Mind you, using one of the vile monstrosities is even worse. :exit:
 
POAH said:
don't like the mac monitor (imac) far far too glossy and hate the one button mouse.
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It's been a Loooooooong time since the mac mouse only had one button, in fact it was even before I owned a mac
 
POAH said:
don't like the mac monitor (imac) far far too glossy and hate the one button mouse.

for the same price as a 27inch imac quad core 2.7ghz 4 gig ram 500mb grafix you can get a quad core 3.4ghz 16gig ram, 1gb grafix 3d ready blah blah blah.
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Does that include
27 ISP Monitor
Wire less keyboard (and not a platictic clickty clack one)
Wireles mouse
wifi
bluetooth
web cam
Mic
2 x USB3 (as oposed to thunderbolt)
Speakers
SD card slot
OS


And can I just have just ONE cable coming out the back to a power socket, Oh I don't have room on or under my desk for a big box. Also I don't do DIY I want to unpack one box, plug it in and go, without spending time installing the OS .
 
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