Part Build - possible?

I've used both Scan and Overclockers a lot and both have been fine. I think one reason Overclockers has a lot of negative reviews is from disgruntled forum members, I assume most of the negative reviews are fairly old for them?

Also check Amazon as they seem to be a fair amount cheaper than both OcUK and Scan for the stuff I've been looking at recently.
 
Oooo, never though about Amazon!

The negative reviews are all recent, it's a good mix of positive and negative and usually I don't mind old negative reviews but recent ones make me a bit wary, even though I appreciate people are faster to complain than compliment.



Cheers
 
Cheers, I've ordered up a 256GB SSD which I'm going to install in my current system and then migrate the current OS etc across to it so that I'll have it ready to install and roll straight away in the new system.

Does anyone know of a good reliable piece of software for doing this? I've tried in the past and it always screwed up.
 
I use Novatech all the time and the service has always been great
 
Cheers, I've ordered up a 256GB SSD which I'm going to install in my current system and then migrate the current OS etc across to it so that I'll have it ready to install and roll straight away in the new system.

Does anyone know of a good reliable piece of software for doing this? I've tried in the past and it always screwed up.

For sure it will be a PITA and take longer but based on my own personal experience I would go for a clean install everytime.
 
Cheers, I've ordered up a 256GB SSD which I'm going to install in my current system and then migrate the current OS etc across to it so that I'll have it ready to install and roll straight away in the new system.

Does anyone know of a good reliable piece of software for doing this? I've tried in the past and it always screwed up.

You won't be able to simply plug the SSD into a different system, it will need a fresh install to let it work with your new components.
 
Ah of course, all the drivers will be different for the chipsets etc won't they? b****r. It's all the emails I hate setting up again as well. I'd like to run the SSD in the current system, so any advice on software?
 
If you mean imaging software, Acronis is OK but Win7 has built-in image stuff.

You can use it to make an image of your present disc and transfer to the SSD, just make sure the SSD is not any smaller than the original.

If it is, delete stuff until you get the enough room, then image it.
 
Then I'll need an SSD but the rest I'm pulling from my current system. Although there's nothing wrong with my current system it is getting a little old now especially in the hard drive area so I'm wondering if £393 + SSD and the hassle of building it is worth it or not?

Please bear in mind that if you are thinking of pulling your hard drives out of your existing PC and dropping them into the new PC then the computer will probably not start. You will need to do a Windows re-install (assuming you are using Microsoft), and if you are using Linux then it may start but is likely to have all sorts of problems. In this situation, I would invest in an extra hard drive, build your new PC - installing everything EXCEPT your old hard drive with existing data; then install Windows onto the new hard drive, then turn PC off (and pull power out) then put in old hard drive, turn PC back on, copy the data to your new hard drive and reformat your old drive and turn the old drive into a data storage device. I would also write a batch file that backs up all data on the old drive to the new drive as a last resort recovery in case the old drive dies.

If you want any advice on doing any of this, feel free to PM me.

Cheers,

Ste
 
Didn't know about the Win7 one, I'll give it a whirl when the drive arrives.

Cheers Stephen, I think I'll just do a fresh install once I've built the new PC. The current HD is quite new and there's another two hard drives in there also (original ones). I'll only be leaving one hard drive in the original system so that it's still a functioning computer (will stick my old 8800GTX in it :))

I'm now having second thoughts about the motherboard. Was going to go for the G43 but this review doesn't seem the best, although I'm not intending to overclock things.

http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/motherboards/2012/06/11/msi-z77a-g43-review/1
 
If you need any pointers when you are doing your build, feel free to PM and I will respond as soon as possible.

Cheers,

Ste
 
Yes, I was thinking of an instant help PM then update things on the forum later on....
Well, unless you are online 24/7, a forum post may be more helpful as there are others who also know their way around computers and may be able to help quicker than you can ;)
 
Cheers all.

I'm just not sure if it's worth spending extra on the motherboard. One side of me thinks the MSI G43 or G45 perhaps will be fine as I'm not intending to overclock it and push the circuitry etc and shouldn't need more than x2 SATA3 ports (although 4 would be nice.

But another side of me thinks that of all the components in a computer, changing the motherboard is probably the most time consuming thing you could do. So should I be more future proof or is the one above more than adequate for my needs?
 
Well, unless you are online 24/7, a forum post may be more helpful as there are others who also know their way around computers and may be able to help quicker than you can ;)

Haha, point taken....
:lol:
 
So should I be more future proof or is the one above more than adequate for my needs?
(assuming you mean the Z77 based motherboard in your post from a few days ago).

There are a variety of different ways of looking at this. The more expensive boards tend to have more peripheral "stuff" on them (bluetooth, 1394, extra SATA ports, extra USB3 ports) provided by other chips other than the chipset. You may also have better power supply management and thermal management as you go up the boards. They will also tend to look "cooler"....

The question is, do you ever envisage using those extra features? For upgradeability, you are as set as you can be at the moment, the Z77 is one of the top chipsets so the only thing you could do in the future is perhaps replace the CPU with a faster one (assuming Gigabyte release support for newer chips in the BIOS of the board.

Personally, I've always found more SATA ports useful (they fill up eventually if you have a couple of extra disks) plus bluetooth for phone connectivity. I'd only use USB3 for a single external drive, so more than a couple of USB3 ports aren't that useful to me TBH. You may have completely different needs though.

So, ask yourself, are 6 USB ports enough (given at least 1 will be used for the mouse or keyboard). The board you are thinking of doesn't have an eSATA port so are you ever likely to want to add an external SATA drive into the system (although I have one internal port connected to an external SATA connector on the case here) - it is much quicker than USB2, although you will have to power the drive separately. Do you want any additional features like bluetooth? firewire/1394? SPDIF out to hook up to an external DAC? extra cards into the system (probably not, but you have to ask)? You need to answer those questions before knowing whether it is worth upgrading the motherboard for something else in the line.
 
Lots to think about there cheers. The SATA3 ports are really bothering me and I fear that with the rapid popularity of SSD over traditional drives I'm going to regret only having two SATA3 ports.
 
After much deliberation I've decided to go for the MSI board. Was looking at a more expensive Gigabyte GA-Z77X-D3H as it had an extra two add-on SATA3 ports (not sure how much I like the phrase "add-on") but there was something about the PCI-E slots which bothered me.

Anyway, here's the spec which is now on order (I'll sort out more RAM later) for £543 including the delivery charges. Sorry for all the excessive detail, I just copy and pasted:

  • MSI Z77A-G45 Motherboard (Intel Core i3/i5/i7/Pentium/Celeron, Intel Z77, ATX, RAID, Gigabit LAN, Socket LGA1155)
  • Intel 3rd Generation Core i7-3770K CPU (4 x 3.50GHz, Ivy Bridge, Socket 1155, 8Mb L3 Cache, Intel Turbo Boost Technology 2.0)
  • Thermaltake PSU SMART 650W/ 80plus Bronze Certificated Power Supply with Cable Management
  • Crucial Dimm Desktop Memory Upgrade (8GB Kit - 4GBx2,240-pin,DDR3 PC3-10600,Cl=9,1.5v)
  • Cooler Master Elite 430
  • SanDisk SDSSDX-240G-G25 240GB Extreme SATA III 6Gb/s 2.5in Internal Solid State Drive

Plus: existing x1 2TB 7,200rpm drive + x1 1TB 7,200rpm drive for storage etc


Will this do the trick? Looking forward to the build, I'm sure I'll be back here in tears though.
 
It's a Retail one rather than OEM so I should come with a standard heatsink I believe? I may look into extra cooling though. Cheers
 
It's a Retail one rather than OEM so I should come with a standard heatsink I believe? I may look into extra cooling though. Cheers

Might be worth checking if they do come with heatsinks. I once bought two "Retail" AMD Opterons for a server board and they did not come with heatsinks.... The heatsinks were an extra 30 quid each!

Cheers,

Ste
 
You will want an after market heatsink if you want to do any overclocking (which is dead easy on the latest processors)
 
Checked the description and it comes with a heatsink although no processor fan, if they are still necessary? I paid the extra small amount and got the 'K' version processor so it's unlocked etc, just in case ;)

Cloning my OS onto the SSD at the moment and will do a fresh install for the new system which will be ready to build in about a week or so. :D
 
I've been following this thread with interest, if you don't mind me asking where did you order from in the end?
 
Checked the description and it comes with a heatsink although no processor fan, if they are still necessary?

There will be a fan, they usually consider that a part of the heatsink.

One of the first things I did when I built my system was to get rid of the stock heatsink and buy an after market one
 
I remember quite a number of years ago I bought an aftermarket heatsink that had huge copper pipes all over the place! It was massive! I think I'll just focus on getting it built first and then see how things go, I've stopped cloning the current OS, I don't want to risk messing up the current system and for the sake of a week or two what's the point as the SSD will be a clean install in the new one.

I got everything from Amazon directly, except for the SSD and the Case which is from a 3rd Party through Amazon. Worked out pretty much the same price but I felt safer using them as I believe there's never any hassle returning things (never had to though).
 
The one I have at the moment is a bit of a beast compared to the stock heatsink
 
It's your ears that'll suffer with the stock heatsink..... ;)
 
ffs, I need to get a new heatsink now! I'm hemorrhaging money these days, bloody EA got another £40 out of me last night as well grrrr!!!

Ok, heatsinks and fans.....I like quiet computers. The one I've got just now sounds like an An-225 Mriya which isn't good but it's an XPS and is fan-tastic - not in the good sense.

Any suggestions for a good heatsink and a fan (if necessary)?
 
lol, slightly overkill surely?
 
Scythe Ninjas here.... Just because I'm familiar with them more than anything. Make sure whatever you get fits the case...
 
Found this interesting chart whilst looking up the Ninja:

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Here's a fair sized heatsink in a Coolermaster 430 so I reckon I have a fairly good choice available?

CoolerMaster_Elite430_install.jpg
 
Case fans. Damn.

I think the motherboard has four fan connectors (are these just for controlling fan speed and not power?) + the CPU fan. But I'm not 100% sure about the PSU connectors. Am I going to need to adapters or splitters or will my PSU have enough cables for everything?

Here's the fans I've got on order:

Corsair Air Series AF140 x1
Sharkoon Silent Eagle 1000 x3

Plus there's a stock case fan which I believe is a Coolermaster A12025-12CB-3BN-F1
 
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