Parking restrictions

PaulF said:
Sorry Daugirdas, is there any chance you could just say what you are on about?

I'm guessing the local council have made some area's of town a no-parking zone for some reason (possibly safety or complaints from residents etc) and this is impacting you somehow?
Your solution seems to involve spending money on an expensive to run car just so it would pollute the town you work in a little more, in the hope of upsetting the local council but you seem to be complaining about an extra parking cost which you can't afford :thinking:

Of course I could of got the complete wrong end of the stick here as your not really making much sense, sorry, no offence intended I just don't understand your issue. Please explain without any cryptic clues.
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funny that - nobody asked to pay in front of their own house (and many have private parking on driveway), and oddly enough I can always see enough of free spaces down there. It has to be greedy labour council running out of budget.

P.S. I have other much better reasons for an SUV, just it would happen to pollute right in the face of these councillors :)

Tigger.ufo said:
I rest my case........

Just using my own experience whilst driving that if there is a tosser about they are:-

...usually male.

...tend to favour the above marques.

Certainly not car envy on my part as I would rather spend my money in other ways. ;)
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More like Vauxhall Insignia driven by Londoner in my own experience... and they dream about a BMW. Of course you get all sorts of them.

crofter said:
Sounds like you deserve to be miserable, roll on October.
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Are you one of those people that take the pleasure in my making life difficult for people?

boyfalldown said:
Audi drivers are always lovely chaps (n)

OP & I thought I could go off on one sometimes :rolleyes:
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Audi Q5 3.0TDI biturbo is getting bought one day. It is my dream car, just can't quite afford one right now.
 
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boyfalldown said:
Audi drivers are always lovely chaps (n)

OP & I thought I could go off on one sometimes :rolleyes:
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I'm sure most are :)
I just had a brown trouser moment yesterday though when I was overtaking a wagon on the dual carriageway doing 70+ and the Audi tailgating me was inches from my bumper :eek:
 
LCPete said:
I'm sure most are :)
I just had a brown trouser moment yesterday though when I was overtaking a wagon on the dual carriageway doing 70+ and the Audi tailgating me was inches from my bumper :eek:
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I can see how that would result in brown trousers.
 
onomatopoeia said:
Bristol is in the process of introducing controlled parking zones across much of the city, converting the existing unrestricted on street parking into a mix of meters and resident permit. A lot of the residents are very unhappy about it.
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I have seen that first hand. It is awful. I just can't understand how Londoners and Bath residents (the same people?) are OK with this? And as a result this Boris-misery is spreading like a wildfire across the country.
 
LCPete said:
Yes if I'm being tailgated for sticking to the speed limit the tosser involved is usually driving an Audi
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or a Vauxhall, Subaru, BMW, Jag, Citren, Renault, Nissan, Ford etc singling out Audi's is a little unfair (I don't drive an Audi by the way although I have had 3 in the past).
 
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daugirdas said:
I have seen that first hand. It is awful. I just can't understand how Londoners and Bath residents (the same people?) are OK with this? And as a result this Boris-misery is spreading like a wildfire across the country.
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Because for the most part, it actually makes life a little easier. For sure, I get upset when I'm ticketed, but every one of those has been overturned at the first stage of an appeal. And on the whole, much as I don't like paying it, I'd rather be able to park outside my house then several miles away
 
PaulF said:
or a Vauxhall, Subaru, BMW, Jag, Citren, Renault, Nissan, Ford etc singling out Audi's is a little unfair (I don't drive an Audi by the way although I have had 3 in the past).
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Yeah I know it's just as I said above had a run in with one yesterday and that was still in my mind :)
 
Tigger.ufo said:
I rest my case........

Just using my own experience whilst driving that if there is a tosser about they are:-

...usually male.

...tend to favour the above marques.

Certainly not car envy on my part as I would rather spend my money in other ways. ;)
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So can you elaborate why tossers do not drive, Fords, Vauxhalls, Hyundai etc?

How does your case rest, unless you are calling me a tosser in a thinly veiled way then I cannot respect your judgement as we've not even met?

However on first impressions anyone that uses a picture of their cat as an avatar isn't normally the sort of person I'd want in my social circle but I'm always prepared to make an exception if someone can reason their thoughts out.

Audi A8 or S class Mercedes? What should I buy. Colour scheme got to be black with windae tints
 
daugirdas said:
funny that - nobody asked to pay in front of their own house (and many have private parking on driveway), and oddly enough I can always see enough of free spaces down there. It has to be greedy labour council running out of budget.

P.S. I have other much better reasons for an SUV, just it would happen to pollute right in the face of these councillors :)



More like Vauxhall Insignia driven by Londoner in my own experience... and they dream about a BMW. Of course you get all sorts of them.



Are you one of those people that take the pleasure in my making life difficult for people?



Audi Q5 3.0TDI biturbo is getting bought one day. It is my dream car, just can't quite afford one right now.
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Get the Q7 V12 TDi. A colossal car with a Le Mans engine. The worlds finest 4x4
 
daugirdas said:
funny that - nobody asked to pay in front of their own house (and many have private parking on driveway), and oddly enough I can always see enough of free spaces down there. It has to be greedy labour council running out of budget.

P.S. I have other much better reasons for an SUV, just it would happen to pollute right in the face of these councillors :)
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Getting a little clearer :)

Where you used to park was just outside the town centre on residential streets?
The residents don't have to pay to park outside their own homes (assume they have been given permits) but you would have to as a non resident and that seems to be unfair to you?
Your assuming that this is purely a money making scheme for the council, not considering there could be other reasons, for instance, complaints from said residents that their streets are blocked up every day, perhaps double parked making any deliveries to their premises difficult, crossing the road with their children on the way to school more dangerous etc. There could have been advise from the emergency services stating difficulty in getting a fire engine down the road easily in an emergency and I'm sure there are other potential reasons.

When you say there are 'free spaces' would you be able to park in them if you paid to ie Pay and Display or is it for permit holders only ie residents?
 
PaulF said:
Getting a little clearer :)

Where you used to park was just outside the town centre on residential streets?
The residents don't have to pay to park outside their own homes (assume they have been given permits) but you would have to as a non resident and that seems to be unfair to you?
Your assuming that this is purely a money making scheme for the council, not considering there could be other reasons, for instance, complaints from said residents that their streets are blocked up every day, perhaps double parked making any deliveries to their premises difficult, crossing the road with their children on the way to school more dangerous etc. There could have been advise from the emergency services stating difficulty in getting a fire engine down the road easily in an emergency and I'm sure there are other potential reasons.

When you say there are 'free spaces' would you be able to park in them if you paid to ie Pay and Display or is it for permit holders only ie residents?
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1 residents will have to pay for permits. That's around 100k pa into the budget already. Business users will be totally f***ed. If I had a shp there I would be selling up.

2 I am sure a tosser council can think of many obscure vague reasons like you listed, but the official is a one word modifications.

3 if you haven't seen one these are designed to keep streets empty. You will be lucky if you find a way to stay beyond 1hr to finish eating your dinner in a local pub.

4 I believe the residents of existing nearby scheme are very unhappy with arrangements. Many can't even get a plumber due to restrictions. I suppose glasgow deserves to smell like s***.
 
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daugirdas said:
1 residents will have to pay for permits. That's around 100k pa into the budget already. Business users will be totally f***ed. If I had a shp there I would be selling up.

2 I am sure a tosser council can think of many obscure vague reasons like you listed, but the official is a one word modifications.

3 if you haven't seen one these are designed to keep streets empty. You will be lucky if you find a way to stay beyond 1hr to finish eating your dinner in a local pub.

4 I believe the residents of existing nearby scheme are very unhappy with arrangements. Many can't even get a plumber due to restrictions. I suppose glasgow deserves to smell like s***.
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Right, that makes more sense now, I can see why you might be a little annoyed, especially if the residents are being charged etc. As entertaining as this thread has been, you could of said that in the first place ;)
Best bet would be to get a bicycle in the back of the SUV and cycle the last bit.
 
When I lived in London my road was full of commuters driving in and parking up for the day. Dreaded having to go out in the morning because you knew that was it for parking in your own road or even adjacent ones for the rest of the day
We were delighted when it became residents only and the small amount a year was well worth it, didn't hear one moan from anyone in my street.
Pushed the buggers further and further out and only the real skinflints carried on parking and walking to the station (which had a huge car park)
 
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ST4 said:
I doubt the residents will line this. It's free to park where the OP does, the permits will have quite a cost to them. A real lose lose situation.

I love BMWs, Mercedes and Audi. I've yet to win an Audi. I will soon though ;)
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Depends on the council but permits are often free or at very least heavily subsidised.

Personally I wouldn't have minded a small fee to have guaranteed parking near to my front door rather than having to hunt for space between commuters.

ST4 said:
So can you elaborate why tossers do not drive, Fords, Vauxhalls, Hyundai etc?

How does your case rest, unless you are calling me a tosser in a thinly veiled way then I cannot respect your judgement as we've not even met?

However on first impressions anyone that uses a picture of their cat as an avatar isn't normally the sort of person I'd want in my social circle but I'm always prepared to make an exception if someone can reason their thoughts out.

Audi A8 or S class Mercedes? What should I buy. Colour scheme got to be black with windae tints
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:rolleyes:

daugirdas said:
1 residents will have to pay for permits. That's around 100k pa into the budget already. Business users will be totally f***ed. If I had a shp there I would be selling up.
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See above. I'd be keen to see your source on residential charges.

4 I believe the residents of existing nearby scheme are very unhappy with arrangements. Many can't even get a plumber due to restrictions. I suppose glasgow deserves to smell like s***.
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You've canvassed the neighbourhood then? I'd wager the residents were in full consultation on the changes.
 
People don't own the land outside their house/land. Why should they have the right to say who does and does not park there. It's nice, given the councils tax us for what little we get, not to have to pay to park near your domicile, but at the same time, it should be free for people to stop there too and walk to their work.
 
PaulF said:
Best bet would be to get a bicycle in the back of the SUV and cycle the last bit.
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Thats definitely something to consider. The question is - cheap SUV (the X5 beater) along my current car, or something a bit nicer as a standalone set of wheels? The thing would be taken all over highlands so it must be reliable.

neil_g said:
Personally I wouldn't have minded a small fee
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We know that and greedy councils know that too.

neil_g said:
You've canvassed the neighbourhood then? I'd wager the residents were in full consultation on the changes.
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You know, I work with people... people that can't get a plumber. Funny, innit?

tijuana taxi said:
When I lived in London my road was full of commuters driving in and parking up for the day. Dreaded having to go out in the morning because you knew that was it for parking in your own road or even adjacent ones for the rest of the day
We were delighted when it became residents only and the small amount a year was well worth it, didn't hear one moan from anyone in my street.
Pushed the buggers further and further out and only the real skinflints carried on parking and walking to the station (which had a huge car park)
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Ok, London may be such an awful place that it is a lose lose situation to start with. But why do tossers need to force the same upon us living in a far less congested place. The most you'd walk maybe 50-70 meters if you are incredibly unlucky that evening.

The council didn't see any need to do this when the games were on, and surely the congestion was a more likely problem in that area (but it was as normal). Now they have run out of money presumably because of the games and are doing this and sending dibble to set 40mph speed limits on 70mph motorways.

Another way is a foreign reg car - those can be parked anywhere pretty much for free as enforcement is too difficult. Many people in London are doing exactly this and I can only commend them.
 
where the hell can i get some of the good shiite you lot have been smoking ,or have i been living up in the welsh hills for to long :thinking::thinking::thinking:
 
Don't really understand how you think buying a polluting 4wd will be of any concern to the council. It will only be of concern to the general public that have to breathe it in. Plus you don't really need a big 4wd to negotiate speed bumps. Normal cars are more than capable.
 
nilagin said:
Don't really understand how you think buying a polluting 4wd will be of any concern to the council. It will only be of concern to the general public that have to breathe it in. Plus you don't really need a big 4wd to negotiate speed bumps. Normal cars are more than capable.
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You don't have to slow in a 4x4. My X5 could go over the sleeping policeman at 30mph by my local school...
 
ST4 said:
You don't have to slow in a 4x4. My X5 could go over the sleeping policeman at 30mph by my local school...
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That would surely put a smile on my face every time :)
 
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ST4 said:
You don't have to slow in a 4x4. My X5 could go over the sleeping policeman at 30mph by my local school...
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I've never had to slow down in a lowered Mondeo ST neither, in fact it could take them faster so the calming measures didn't really work. Only speed bumps I have to drive over gently are the plastic ones usually installed in car parks or on private land which I'd suspect even an X5 would have to drive slower over too.
 
nilagin said:
I've never had to slow down in a lowered Mondeo ST neither, in fact it could take them faster so the calming measures didn't really work. Only speed bumps I have to drive over gently are the plastic ones usually installed in car parks or on private land which I'd suspect even an X5 would have to drive slower over too.
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Up here some of them will seriously scrape the bottom of any average car. An SUV May just about have a chance. Also you can get out of any nasty pothole with all wheel drive car.
 
daugirdas said:
4 I believe the residents of existing nearby scheme are very unhappy with arrangements. Many can't even get a plumber due to restrictions. I suppose glasgow deserves to smell like s***.
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so they won't make temporary visitors permits available to residents then?
 
I've never parked in a pothole so can't comment, I tend to just drive around them.
 
There is a rally drivers technique to taking speed bumps anyway so the suspension doesn't take a big bump when you first hit them or come off the other side.
 
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nilagin said:
There is a rally drivers technique to taking speed bumps anyway so the suspension doesn't take a big bump when you first hit them or come off the other side.
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I don't know the technique... but I do know a blip of throttle just before the bump does a pretty good job of shifting the weight back and easing the load on the front. And because it's a blip it returns to even before the rear hits. Not managed to really improve the rears going over yet but definitely the fronts.
 
boyfalldown said:
so they won't make temporary visitors permits available to residents then?
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How strange! They seem to be available in the other residential parking restricted areas of Glasgow. :-) :-)
 
viv1969 said:
How strange! They seem to be available in the other residential parking restricted areas of Glasgow. :) :)
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I thought they may be. They're available in other places that have resident permit parking too. :rolleyes:
 
boyfalldown said:
I thought they may be. They're available in other places that have resident permit parking too. :rolleyes:
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Well its certainly the case down here :)
 
boyfalldown said:
I had though when I read the op my local council were unusually forward thinking. Clearly they're not the trailblazers I thought they were
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Its been like that for years ( at a guess, maybe 20) in Central Milton Keynes,
Premium "Shopping parking" has slowly risen to is £1 / hour ( although I believe that has just gone up too)
some peripheral area's were 20p / hour, then they realised that it was an easy walk to the train station from there,
so they went up too ;)

There are flats / condo's what ever you want to call them, immediately surrounding CMK, (the shopping area, enterprise centres, etc)
(locally known as yuppy flats :D)
these are the permit holders only area's, and the ones with the visitors "permits"
All the offices, (a lot of business's have their head offices in CMK,) in or immediately surrounding CMK
are also premium rate parking area's

Thankfully mostly MK is free parking other than that, for the surrounding out lying smaller local shopping area's.
And all the residential area's away from CMK, are also free.
 
RichardtheSane said:
I don't know the technique... but I do know a blip of throttle just before the bump does a pretty good job of shifting the weight back and easing the load on the front. And because it's a blip it returns to even before the rear hits. Not managed to really improve the rears going over yet but definitely the fronts.
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Just before rally drivers go over a big bump or jump, they give a dab of the brakes. It loads up the suspension meaning they don't hit the bump with such a thump and also gives a softer landing on the other side meaning they can still go fast and remain in control.
 
viv1969 said:
How strange! They seem to be available in the other residential parking restricted areas of Glasgow. :) :)
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Of course they do. Perhaps this council has decided not to make them available to miserable gits who know naff all about car tyres or brakes and trying to drop a subtle hint that the world would be a better place if he didn't have a car. ;)
 
I love this thread. It's a cross between a soap opera and a cryptic crossword.

True story (1): When I lived in Twickers I got a letter from Richmond Council asking what I thought of their proposal that bigger engined cars should pay more for parking. I replied that I thought they should pay less for parking since they seemed to think that actually driving them was such a bad idea. The fact that I had a 4 litre car at the time of course had nothing to do with it.

True story (2): I drive into central London at least once a month - usually more. Can't remember the last time I paid for parking.
 
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