"Panasonic G series" Owners Thread

Here's a test shoot I did looking at higher ISO performance, this is a 100% crop from a hand held shot taken at ISO 3200 and 1/10th second.

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Try 1/10 sec with a DSLR :D
 
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Janice said:
I thought you said that they said in the article that to make mirror lockup worthwhile it needs a tripod.
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FWIW, I have certainly used MLU on SLRs without a tripod, in extremis. On my 5D, depress the shutter release once to raise the mirror, then again to open the shutter. Worth it if you can brace yourself against something and are using a slowish shutter speed - say 1/15 or 1/8.

Mounting on a tripod with MLU is essential if you're using a medium format SLR. One reason I upgraded from a Mamiya M645J to a 1000S was for MLU.
 
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It must help though to be able to see your subject.
 
Not if the subject is static and you can be confident of holding the camera still enough between the first and second clicks. It need only be half a second or so. Just leave a little margin for error in your framing.
 
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Besides, there's enough cameras in the history of photography that have had only the most rudimentary framing guides or none at all.
 
Galaxy66 said:
Do the manufactures claim lower shutter speeds are achievable due to their mirror less design.
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woof woof said:
Good question... but who reads manuals? :D

I've just noticed it's possible in use.
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Galaxy66 said:
I think we can agree then that if what you have experienced is actually true it would have been discovered long before you did and would be high up on their promotional material.
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Galaxy66 said:
Then wouldn't you have thought that would have been promoted as a major selling point.
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woof woof said:
Of course it's true. People have noted the effect of mirror slap and used mirror lock up for decades.
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Yes I agree with that but I am referring to mirrorless cameras and the claim/experience that lower shutter speeds are achievable compared to DSLRS, and if it were true it would be high up on promotional material by MFT manufactures, you yourself agreed that the above quote was a good question.

Messed up the quoting:D
 
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Galaxy66 said:
Then wouldn't you have thought that would have been promoted as a major selling point.
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Nikon did bring this up officially as a possible problem with the D800.
 
Galaxy66 said:
Yes I agree with that but I am referring to mirrorless cameras and the claim/experience that lower shutter speeds are achievable compared to DSLRS, and if it were true it would be high up on promotional material by MFT manufactures, you yourself agreed that the above quote was a good question.
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I have no idea at all if it's mentioned in marketing. It's not something I tend to read and ingest.

I have noticed that I can handhold mirrorless at lower shutters speeds and get a higher keeper rate than I can with my DSLR's. It's a fact for me. Your Milage May Vary.

As you have both morrorless and DSLR yourself it should be an easy enough matter to see if this is a real effect for you. All you have to do is shoot with both types of camera and check the result. Easyous Peasyous. :D
 
sound_system said:
That last one scares the bejesus out of me. :lol:

Does it have image stabilisation? If so does it work for panning?
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:lol:

It does have IS and it is seriously good. The GX1 has different modes for IS and Focusing, although i haven't used these for panning as yet - sorry.

Have another, on the house ;)

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Tiger Feet said:
:lol:

It does have IS and it is seriously good. The GX1 has different modes for IS and Focusing, although i haven't used these for panning as yet - sorry.

Have another, on the house ;)
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I have just sold the Canon 70-200 2.8 IS beast in favour of the f4 is...on the strength of those it may not be long before the f4is goes and I go full time M4/3 with that lens.
 
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my parthian shot on the mirror lock discussion and debate

micro 4/3 dont have a mirror so dont suffer from mirror vibrations
dslrs...4/3 or otherwise with mirrors can be enabled to raise the mirror prior to shutter movement...the delay time is chosen in the menu..
so one can view the subject via the eye level finder at all times and the live view is not needed...not on my e-420 in any event..apart from convenience and easier framing on the tripod
mirror lock is not used on hand held shots..as such unless the camera body is suitably held still..ie..no tripod in use...bean bag, old slipper etc
e and oe

my original comment was that the micro 4/3 was an answer to my requirements for a dslr with a eye level finder and no mirror..

thank you chums and a great and informative exchange on our love of photography and its machinations

cheers
geof
 
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mrtoad said:
thank you chums and a great and informative exchange on our love of photography and its machinations
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Well... we need something to occupy us on a day like today...

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mrtoad said:
thank you chums and a great and informative exchange on our love of photography and its machinations

cheers
geof
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Life would be so boring if we all held the same views:), anyway the debate is put to bed as I am concerned:)
 
Galaxy66 said:
TBH I have never really had a good look at this beauty but the more i read about it.............maybe if my beast of a 70-200 2.8 IS sells:nuts:
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I have sold my 70-200 2.8 IS beast. Hmmmmmmmmm.;)
 
Galaxy66 said:
I have sold my 70-200 2.8 IS beast. Hmmmmmmmmm.;)
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OM-D time ;-)

I must admit I'm not feeling quite so happy having ordered the OM-D myself, maybe it's that low feeling you get after deciding to part with a large wad of cash, at least it's not like the feeling I'd have if I'd just wasted £3k on a 5D3 :)

Maybe it's also because the OM-D only scored 85% in Amateur Photographer this week, was thinking it would have got a bit higher.

Anyway like Janice said before I should probably stop talking about the latest and greatest gear and get out and take more pictures ;)
 
ShrubMonkey said:
Maybe it's also because the OM-D only scored 85% in Amateur Photographer this week, was thinking it would have got a bit higher.
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It's AP, Olympus probably don't have the advertising budget with them to get a higher score ;)

I might have believed their impartiality up to around 10ish years ago (when did Damien Demolder become editor?), but when they began to run advertorials the writing was on the wall about their impartiality.
 
Here's where I am at, and would appreciate any advice from fellow G owners. I have been waiting to pounce on a G3 or GH2 for a while. Just can't decide. I'm not sure I can justify the extra expense of the GH2. Thoughts? The only thing attracting me to it is the better video...and when I say better...I mean 24p. But then, I'm no pro videographer as such, I just fancy making a few cool videos. I gather 24p is a highly sought after thing to give that authentic film look and feel to the vids. Do you think I should care for this? I saw a G3 video the other day which looked really good to me. If someone can highlight the main differences that would be good. Also how is the battery life on them both?

I have been delaying the purchase as I think both are due a price drop soon, but I keep waiting in hope and nothing comes. Rumours of the GH3 and G5 and GF5 are gaining momentum and an announcement tomorrow regarding them could be coming. I was hoping that this may drive down prices of current models.
 
clicktor said:
Here's where I am at, and would appreciate any advice from fellow G owners. I have been waiting to pounce on a G3 or GH2 for a while. Just can't decide. I'm not sure I can justify the extra expense of the GH2. Thoughts? The only thing attracting me to it is the better video...and when I say better...I mean 24p. But then, I'm no pro videographer as such, I just fancy making a few cool videos. I gather 24p is a highly sought after thing to give that authentic film look and feel to the vids. Do you think I should care for this? I saw a G3 video the other day which looked really good to me. If someone can highlight the main differences that would be good. Also how is the battery life on them both?

I have been delaying the purchase as I think both are due a price drop soon, but I keep waiting in hope and nothing comes. Rumours of the GH3 and G5 and GF5 are gaining momentum and an announcement tomorrow regarding them could be coming. I was hoping that this may drive down prices of current models.
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I’m also toying with the idea of getting either the G3 or GH2. I used to have the G1 and I really liked having all the controls easily accessible, when they went to the G3 body I feel they dumbed it down somewhat. Also I’m not too happy about the eye sensor being removed on the G3.

The GH3 won’t be out till later in the year, no one really knows what specs are yet. The G5 will probably be a rehashed version of the G3 (like the G2 was to the G1) so don’t expect a new sensor, that will probably be next year.
 
Eye sensor? Oh do you mean they removed the auto disable off the touch screen buttons when you move your eye up to the viewfinder? Damn. That's annoying. Why did they do that? I didn't know the G2 had that. The thing is, the G2 is a great cam, but it's inferior in terms of sensor and video resolution. Also it's slightly more bulky (some seem to prefer the ergonomics) and for me I prioritis size/weight over ergonomics. Basically I will probably go with a G3, but I don't want to jump and then price go down, which it really should be due to do soon.
 
They probably removed for cost cutting. Panny are doing a £50 cashback for the G3,GH2 and GX1, obviously trying to get rid of old stock, not sure how much they will drop once the new models are announced.
 
Always good to see cashback deals, I think, and I'd be upgrading to a G3 myself if I hadn't just 'accidentally' ordered an iPad! :D
 
Sorry to hop onto the thread but Im hovering over the buy button!

I have found a G2 with the 14-42mm lens for £199.

I have gone from a Canon 450D, to a S95 due to being sick of carrying lenses with me down to a Sony HX9V due to missing the zoom range.

Now I have found the G2 which has a viewfinder that my ageing eyes require As Im sick of taking my reading glasses on and off!

The G2 fits my needs in terms of picture quality, viewfinder, not to big and low light capability. I could get a pancake lens to enhance this even more and keep my Sony for the zoom factor.

My question is this:

I the G2 worth it at that price or is the G3 a significant improvement?
 
The G3 is the better camera obviously, but its also a lot more expensive. I think for a G3 and kit lens you been looking at over £300 so its quite a jump. I think for what it is, £199 for the package is pretty good.
I think the main differences are the G3 being slightly smaller, having a higher pixel count and a higher video resolution. Obviously its down to personal preference as to whether you need the extra at this stage.

Personally, I'm more than happy with my G1 and I'm absolutely certain that whatever model you go for, you won't regret it. I moved over from the Canon 350d and although I thought I was getting great pictures from that, the G1 is so much better. It was noticeable straight away and I find that I'm using my camera a lot more now as I'm happy with both the physical attributes of the camera as well as the results I get from it.
Yes, I could upgrade it to a newer model, but at the moment it does everything I need it to do and then some.
 
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Is that a new price? Can I ask where.

Iiyama said:
Sorry to hop onto the thread but Im hovering over the buy button!

I have found a G2 with the 14-42mm lens for £199.

I have gone from a Canon 450D, to a S95 due to being sick of carrying lenses with me down to a Sony HX9V due to missing the zoom range.

Now I have found the G2 which has a viewfinder that my ageing eyes require As Im sick of taking my reading glasses on and off!

The G2 fits my needs in terms of picture quality, viewfinder, not to big and low light capability. I could get a pancake lens to enhance this even more and keep my Sony for the zoom factor.

My question is this:

I the G2 worth it at that price or is the G3 a significant improvement?
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My G1 I got for £90 used is awesome, use it as much as my G3, plus the body handles better than the G3 for me
 
ShrubMonkey said:
My G1 I got for £90 used is awesome, use it as much as my G3, plus the body handles better than the G3 for me
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Like you Julian I much prefer the handling of the G1 unfortunately mine is restricted to Infra Red but you saw how good it was and decided against the conversion ;)
 
Galaxy66 said:
Like you Julian I much prefer the handling of the G1 unfortunately mine is restricted to Infra Red but you saw how good it was and decided against the conversion ;)
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Yeah, was not expecting to like that much, for the money it must rate as the best photography gear purchase I've made
 
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