overzealous ID checking?

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had to laugh today.......

I am 38 2/3.

I got ID'd at Sainsbury's under their "think 25" policy by someone who to me looked about 12.

Had to question as to why I looked so youthful in their eyes........

"Well, we've been trained that people who have stubble are sometimes looking to appear older..."

"Maybe, just maybe, it's the weekend and I just couldn't be arsed to shave...."


Don't really have a problem with being ID'd .. after all only during their job but sometimes a bit of common sense needs to be applied.... i.e. the law is 18 to purchase, and they check up to 25, because lets face it... a girl aged say 20, can appear anything from about 15 to 25 depending on how she dresses / does her hair etc....
 
I have never been ID'd in my life! not sure if that is a good or bad thing tbh.
 
Much more of a laugh when you're about to collect your pension!
 
I don't get id'd I just keep getting people wanting to give me the OAP rate - had a hard life :(
 
It's weird, I get ID'd when I buy alcohol free beers, but when I buy the good stuff I don't get ID'd! Also, I go for the "ruggedly handsome" look(!) so have a bit of stubble and since I've adopted such a look I never get ID'd, but if I shave it all off and try to buy a lottery ticket I'd better have my driving license at the ready!

When my local speedway didn't offer any student discount I didn't think twice of shaving and calling myself a 15 year old! Can work both ways!!
 
i'd have been flattered, maybe its a woman thing :lol::lol::lol::lol:
 
South Africa isn't nearly as strict about this sort of thing, but some of the clubs have a 'No Under 23' rule to discourage teenagers. My son and his mates used to get clocked by the bouncers regularly when they were about 17 and trying to bluff their way in. Sometimes they got away with it, and other times they didn't. They're all in their late 20s now, and decided to check out a club they used to go to around Christmas. The bouncer just grinned and said "Aren't you guys a bit old to be coming in here?" His ego took a bit of a dive................!
 
MartynK said:
South Africa isn't nearly as strict about this sort of thing, but some of the clubs have a 'No Under 23' rule to discourage teenagers. My son and his mates used to get clocked by the bouncers regularly when they were about 17 and trying to bluff their way in. Sometimes they got away with it, and other times they didn't. They're all in their late 20s now, and decided to check out a club they used to go to around Christmas. The bouncer just grinned and said "Aren't you guys a bit old to be coming in here?" His ego took a bit of a dive................!
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yep never got Id'd when i was in SA either...... though one plod did have an issue with me doing 132 k's in a 120.

ZAR100 fine....

Oh and I am banned from a restaurant in Fishhoek as I told them their food was crap as well... let alone the service...........
 
My 18 year old son had to come home and get his driving licence to prove his age as Tesco wouldn't sell him party poppers because he didn't look 25 .....
 
Sorry for posting!
 
My wife gets asked for id sometimes (which she quite likes), she's 36, but she got riled last year when they wouldn't serve her in Morrisons. She'd just done the weekly shop (which had some beers in for me), she was there with the kids which are 6 and 4, wedding ring on, kids calling her mummy but they still wouldn't serve her.
 
Why the 'yep... and????'

Well I don't think it's too hard to understand the link, even for someone at 38, I was playing devils advocate.

It's a big problem up here, and the retail shops have been getting away with it for years but it's now causing huge social problems, hence the checks.

They. the retailers, are now on their last warning............ then it's three strikes and they're out. I doubt if Tesco or Asda want to lose their drinks licence at any of their stores! They brought in their over 21 rule but failed so they increased it to 25 and it looks like it still needs work.
 
ID'ing is very inconsistant. I've been in sainsburys with my mum buying alcohol, woman at the till just said although its for you as long as she pays i dont care.

Other times i have gone in with a group of friends, dispersed through the store and bought separate and still had all 15 of us in atleast 5 separate groups all refused because one person forgot his ID. (to be fair it was 7am so they could tell we were together).

closest i've come to being ID'd in an off license was a "it's ok i trust you're 18, you better not be lieing to me" and night clubs never ID at all. I don't see the point in being so strict with supermarkets when so many under 18s can just goto their local off license or into a club to get the alcohol - while ligitimate purchases in supermarkets get rejected purely because of having a child with you on a family shop.
 
I've seen some cracking rows in our local Asdas because they won't accept payment from the person doing the shopping as they have teens in tow.

This includes parents clearly doing the weekly shop. It's not the same in Local Tescos.

I have to be honest and say if they didn't accept my money because I had a teen in tow I'd be leaving the shopping there to be reshelfed. After all - who else is going to pack and carry my bags :)
 
And interestingly the same small off license that use to serve me 20 plus years ago - is still the favourite port of call for underagers buying alcohol.
 
jomantha said:
I've seen some cracking rows in our local Asdas because they won't accept payment from the person doing the shopping as they have teens in tow.

This includes parents clearly doing the weekly shop. It's not the same in Local Tescos.

I have to be honest and say if they didn't accept my money because I had a teen in tow I'd be leaving the shopping there to be reshelfed. After all - who else is going to pack and carry my bags :)
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All because of the possibility the alcohol may be given to the teenagers later on. Why should that be such a liability for the store when depending on the circumstances is even completely legal
 
Whilst I recall somewhere being asked not that long ago ! I think I responded with a bit of "you must be joking" (36 at that time) which I guess want very fair (can't recall where or why) and the assitant didn't push it further.

However, I don't carry any suitable i.d. So I would have had difficulty proving my age if she had insisted.
 
Two point. Firstly I wish common sense would apply these days. It's easy to tell that I or my mates are old enough (late 30s), not been asked but you do read of stories of older people being asked. Secondly, I am guessing we all drank under age? I bought beer at 16 and doctored an Id card to get into pubs. Don't remember having a problem getting it in shops. Didn't do me or my mates any harm. Underage drinking is not new so why the horror over it?
 
They are stricter - I was getting into pubs and clubs at 14 with no ID - I looked like a baby - some of the pubs/clubs here are insisting on passports for ID (which I think is ridiculous).
 
I don't have any photo ID other than my passport (which I don't carry on a day-to-day basis, so if I ever gor asked for it, I couldn't provide it. I know I could get a photo driving license but I don't really want one (and have never been asked for photo ID anyway). Maybe if I had been asked for it a few times in my early teens, I wouldn't have had the problems with alcohol that I ended up with in my twenties???
 
Didn't do me or my mates any harm. Underage drinking is not new so why the horror over it?
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Don't know what age you are Camsbo, I'm in my late 40,s and I to liked a drink whilst underage, a can of Tennants or Merrydown,. The problem nowadays is the vast array of "alcopops" available, look out for Dragons Soup an 8% ABV filled with caffiene, Taurine and other chemicals, tastes like fizzy drink, easy to consume and the effects last for ages.. A couple of them and any teenager thinks they are indestructable,, Not forgetting "Buckie" Buckfast Tonic Wine !!!!!
 
Problem is the people asking are risking getting into trouble if they don't and it turns out they should of, this is the problem. If i worked on a till i would be asking all for ID. Well known these days you might get challenged so i would make sure i had ID with me if i was buying, saying that I've never been asked even thou Im 38 but i only look 24 :cool:
 
I get asking for ID but I don't get stopping families who are shopping together.
 
i take it as a complement. before xmas me and the OH were ID'd in asda (shes 31 and im 30), while i was actually purchasing it was for the OH they wanted ID for. we just laughed it off.

i guess some people just find it hard to guess someones age, i know i do. its not the end of the world, just carry a photo drivers licence etc.
 
cambsno said:
Two point. Firstly I wish common sense would apply these days. It's easy to tell that I or my mates are old enough (late 30s), not been asked but you do read of stories of older people being asked. Secondly, I am guessing we all drank under age? I bought beer at 16 and doctored an Id card to get into pubs. Don't remember having a problem getting it in shops. Didn't do me or my mates any harm. Underage drinking is not new so why the horror over it?
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Drinking habits have changed over the last 20 years. Underage drinikers are drinking a lot more and a lot stronger now so the problem is far greater.

neil_g said:
i take it as a complement. before xmas me and the OH were ID'd in asda (shes 31 and im 30), while i was actually purchasing it was for the OH they wanted ID for. we just laughed it off.

i guess some people just find it hard to guess someones age, i know i do. its not the end of the world, just carry a photo drivers licence etc.
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Never had you down as a toyboy! :D
 
neil_g said:
i guess some people just find it hard to guess someones age, i know i do. its not the end of the world, just carry a photo drivers licence etc.
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I don't have one. I still have a paper one.:)
 
nilagin said:
I'd rather keep the paper one. At least I don't have to get a new one every 10 yrs.:)
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thats fine if you dont want a photo id which would need renewing as the photo after 10 years appearance could have changed significantly :) (plus £20 over 10 years isnt a biggy, if only they made a checkup test compulsory at the same time but thats another thread :D)

edit - i apologise for any bad grammar, had a stag do last night and still feeling the "fun" :gag:
 
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fabs said:
Drinking habits have changed over the last 20 years. Underage drinikers are drinking a lot more and a lot stronger now so the problem is far
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Hmmm. I remember buying special brew as it was the strongest beer on sale at 16. I think the issue is less of the alcohol and strength and more about the lack of parental discipline and responsibility these days. It's easier to make booze out to be the bad guy and it's taxable.
 
BFT999 said:
Not forgetting "Buckie" Buckfast Tonic Wine !!!!!
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I've never tried Buckfast despite living in Scotland for a few years but you've reminded me of when I used to go out on a session back in my yoof, we'd start the night with a pint and a couple of Underberg minatures.

It's digestif bitters (according to Wiki); all we worried about was that it was something silly like 45% ABV and much cheaper than spirits :)
 
cambsno said:
Hmmm. I remember buying special brew as it was the strongest beer on sale at 16. I think the issue is less of the alcohol and strength and more about the lack of parental discipline and responsibility these days. It's easier to make booze out to be the bad guy and it's taxable.
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I remember too but we didn't drink it in the quantities drunk today. I agree about the lack of parental responsibility but it's only part of the problem.
 
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