OFFICIAL I HAVE A NEW (FILM RELATED) TOY THREAD!!

ChrisR said:
I seem to now have a Leica CL with a 40mm Rokkor-M...
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It is much smaller than my Pentax MX with a 35mm lens:



The Rokkor-M 40mm f/2 lens is MUCH smaller than the Pentax-M 35mm f/2, for reasons that completely escape me!



(I'm using a strap that I think originally came with my Trip 35, but I'm planning to get a new one. I think the flat anodised lugs designed for the neck strap, which is supposed to be a full loop going through both lugs, don't really work well with most wrist straps, it feels like they will get badly marked. I may need to find one where the cord itself goes through the lug, rather than a split ring.)
 
ChrisR said:
(I'm using a strap that I think originally came with my Trip 35, but I'm planning to get a new one. I think the flat anodised lugs designed for the neck strap, which is supposed to be a full loop going through both lugs, don't really work well with most wrist straps, it feels like they will get badly marked. I may need to find one where the cord itself goes through the lug, rather than a split ring.)
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Chris, did you see the link I posted a while back about straps. This company have all sorts. I have two.

http://stores.ebay.co.uk/cordweaver?_trksid=p2047675.l2563
 
simon ess said:
Chris, did you see the link I posted a while back about straps. This company have all sorts. I have two.

http://stores.ebay.co.uk/cordweaver?_trksid=p2047675.l2563
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I did see it, Simon, but thought they were all split ring types; I was also a bit unsure whether the plaited cord would be uncomfortable. With a bit of Googling, it looks like the Cordy Classic can be used without a split ring, and is under £7 with free delivery, so it looks worth a try. The only worry is whether the sharp edges of the lugs would wear the cord, as I do tend to dangle my camera on the strap quite often!
 
A Nikon BR2A lens reversing ring to have a play at some close ups.
 
Waiting for delivery of a Canon 300v body. Not exotic, I know, and although I prefer my M.E. Super, I fancied a film body to stick my EF lenses on. And for under £8 delivered, I couldn't let it pass :)
 
Hiya all,

I picked up my mint Leica M6 camera, and near mint Elmar-M 50mm f/2.8 lens this weekend.

Complete with hood and filter.

Camera is dated: 22/10/97

Lens is dated: 1995

Photos below.

Can not wait to use them :)

Cheers,
Shane.


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Shane, that is some fine hardware you have acquired!
 
Great acquisitions, Shane, both on my far-distant fantasy list! What happened to the M5? ;)
 
Hiya Chris,

I was looking at a M5. That went unfortunately.

I found the M6 and lens from a fairly local guy who had got 2. Used one and saved the other for his collection.

He decided that it needed a home where it'd be used.

The Elmar-m 50mm was always a lens I was interested in. f/2.8 is plenty fast enough for the type of photography that I do, so the fact that this lens was up for grabs too just made my day.

The M6 has got all the original packaging - display case, outer box, boxed strap etc. The lens is near mint - and has the original UV filter and hood.


Extremely happy to say the least. :)

Cheers,
Shane
 
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Shane.

Congratulations they are wonderful cameras. I have had one for a while they are beautifully made, very compact and the lenses are very special. I really enjoy the images I have created with mine. The ones that haven't been messed up by user error that is! You will enjoy it.
 
Just spotted a Voigtlander Bessamatic with 15 minutes to go on evilbay. Non-working shutter but otherwise in very good condition, so I popped on a cheeky bid of £6.50 and won it. Good news is that it looks like it might have the Septon 50mm f2 lens attached....:banana: Even if its the ordinary 50mm f2.8 its still a bit of a bargain.

Andy
 
Andysnap said:
Just spotted a Voigtlander Bessamatic with 15 minutes to go on evilbay. Non-working shutter but otherwise in very good condition, so I popped on a cheeky bid of £6.50 and won it. Good news is that it looks like it might have the Septon 50mm f2 lens attached....:banana: Even if its the ordinary 50mm f2.8 its still a bit of a bargain.

Andy
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I take it that Mr Whitehead can repair these machines.
 
Andysnap said:
Just spotted a Voigtlander Bessamatic with 15 minutes to go on evilbay. Non-working shutter but otherwise in very good condition, so I popped on a cheeky bid of £6.50 and won it. Good news is that it looks like it might have the Septon 50mm f2 lens attached....:banana: Even if its the ordinary 50mm f2.8 its still a bit of a bargain.

Andy
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Probably helped that they missed the g in the Voigtlander. :woot::woot::woot:

Got to love the mis-listings :LOL:

Definitely looks like a f2.0 lens..
 
If the hammer doesn't work eat the pie whilst waiting for the nice Mr Whitehead to repair the repair....:)
 
I blame @Terrywoodenpic for this one. :)

A few days after he kindly took the time to educate me a little about Agfa lenses I spotted this on that auction site I really should stay away from.


DSC_4965 by simon ess on Talk Photography

Agfa Super Silette coupled rangefinder with Solinar 45mm lens. Complete with 3 filters, lens hood and very good condition leather cases.

The range finder is bang on at all distances. The controls feel like new.

Film loaded ready to go.
 
That looks very nice Simon.
 
ChrisR said:
Pics... On its own (more or less):



It is much smaller than my Pentax MX with a 35mm lens:



The Rokkor-M 40mm f/2 lens is MUCH smaller than the Pentax-M 35mm f/2, for reasons that completely escape me!



(I'm using a strap that I think originally came with my Trip 35, but I'm planning to get a new one. I think the flat anodised lugs designed for the neck strap, which is supposed to be a full loop going through both lugs, don't really work well with most wrist straps, it feels like they will get badly marked. I may need to find one where the cord itself goes through the lug, rather than a split ring.)
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The pentax 35 mm lens is a retrofocus lens to achieve the necessary back focus from the flange.
the 40 mm minolta is a standard construction as it has sufficient back focus for infinity.
This has always been a problem with slr cameras.
 
Terrywoodenpic said:
The pentax 35 mm lens is a retrofocus lens to achieve the necessary back focus from the flange.
the 40 mm minolta is a standard construction as it has sufficient back focus for infinity.
This has always been a problem with slr cameras.
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Terry, that looks like it makes sense, but something goes wrong between my eyes and my brain there. Could you expand a bit? I'm guessing you mean that the distance from the flange to the film plane is greater than (or around) 35mm, so the lens has to do complicated stuff to pretend to be 35mm while actually focusing further back (as it were)...
 
May I jump in? A lens has two nodal planes. When the subject is at infinity, the focused image lies one focal length behind the rear nodal plane (by definition). If the lens physically can't get close enough to the the film/sensor because there's a flipping great mirror in the way, the optical designer has to resort to making the rear nodal plane lie outside and behind the lens. Such a design is called retrofocus. These extra optical shenanigans are the reason that many regard extreme wide angle lenses for non SLR cameras as optically better performers - one less hard problem to be solved.

The reverse happens when a designer wants to make a lens physically shorter than its focal length (if a 1000mm lens has to have a rear nodal plane 1 meter from the film plane, it's going to be a long lens). In this case, the rear nodal plane can be in front of the physical lens - a telephoto design.
 
StephenM said:
May I jump in? A lens has two nodal planes. When the subject is at infinity, the focused image lies one focal length behind the rear nodal plane (by definition). If the lens physically can't get close enough to the the film/sensor because there's a flipping great mirror in the way, the optical designer has to resort to making the rear nodal plane lie outside and behind the lens. Such a design is called retrofocus. These extra optical shenanigans are the reason that many regard extreme wide angle lenses for non SLR cameras as optically better performers - one less hard problem to be solved.

The reverse happens when a designer wants to make a lens physically shorter than its focal length (if a 1000mm lens has to have a rear nodal plane 1 meter from the film plane, it's going to be a long lens). In this case, the rear nodal plane can be in front of the physical lens - a telephoto design.
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Such explanations in simple terms ( well as simple as they can be made i guess) is one of many things that makes this forum so good.

It doesn't matter how "educated" you are or how difficult it is to understand a certain topic, someone will always come up trumps and share their knowledge in laymans terms...................Thanks Stephen (y)
 
Thanks Stephen, that makes sense to me now!
 
StephenM said:
May I jump in? A lens has two nodal planes. When the subject is at infinity, the focused image lies one focal length behind the rear nodal plane (by definition). If the lens physically can't get close enough to the the film/sensor because there's a flipping great mirror in the way, the optical designer has to resort to making the rear nodal plane lie outside and behind the lens. Such a design is called retrofocus. These extra optical shenanigans are the reason that many regard extreme wide angle lenses for non SLR cameras as optically better performers - one less hard problem to be solved.

The reverse happens when a designer wants to make a lens physically shorter than its focal length (if a 1000mm lens has to have a rear nodal plane 1 meter from the film plane, it's going to be a long lens). In this case, the rear nodal plane can be in front of the physical lens - a telephoto design.
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I would say that covers it very well. so i will not add to it.

however it is also the reason that the new css cameras have smaller lenses, than the traditional Dslr.
Sensors prefer the light falling close to a right angle to the surface, which has demanded new lens constructions to be invented, known as telecentric.
 
Andysnap said:
Just spotted a Voigtlander Bessamatic with 15 minutes to go on evilbay. Non-working shutter but otherwise in very good condition, so I popped on a cheeky bid of £6.50 and won it. Good news is that it looks like it might have the Septon 50mm f2 lens attached....:banana: Even if its the ordinary 50mm f2.8 its still a bit of a bargain.

Andy
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Gotta love those s*** listings, misspellings, one very poor photograph.
 
StephenM said:
May I jump in? A lens has two nodal planes. When the subject is at infinity, the focused image lies one focal length behind the rear nodal plane (by definition). If the lens physically can't get close enough to the the film/sensor because there's a flipping great mirror in the way, the optical designer has to resort to making the rear nodal plane lie outside and behind the lens. Such a design is called retrofocus. These extra optical shenanigans are the reason that many regard extreme wide angle lenses for non SLR cameras as optically better performers - one less hard problem to be solved.

The reverse happens when a designer wants to make a lens physically shorter than its focal length (if a 1000mm lens has to have a rear nodal plane 1 meter from the film plane, it's going to be a long lens). In this case, the rear nodal plane can be in front of the physical lens - a telephoto design.
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I found this post via Google on a dpreview forum, which contains a couple of diagrams that make it even clearer for me!
 
Ah, one picture is worth a thousand words - which is why photographs need to have titles to explain them ;)
 
Is that why LF and Rangefinder lenses are less prone to flare? They're optically simpler?
 
There's always light scattered at air to glass surfaces - even with coated lenses. The more elements, the more stray light that has to go somewhere. Some lens designs are more prone to flare than others. And the amount of scattered light depends on the difference of refractive index of the glass and the air - different glasses having different refractive indexed.
 
Cheap Voigtlander number 1, hopefully number 2 will be here tomorrow.

Voigtlander Vito C, this one has the Lanthar lens, the Colour Skopar is better, but it is in lovely condition inside and out and for £3.20 a bit of a bargain.
Vito C by andysnapper1, on Flickr

Andy
 
Sounds like a plan. I can't do the next three weekends though, but after that we can sort something out.(y)
 
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