O.k. Seriously!

badgerbaiter said:
what most people dont realise, is that most eastern european migrants have no intention of staying here in the long term.
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I only have experience of 3 that have come here with their girlfriends, all in their mid 20s, none of them are planning to go back, 1 couple from Romania 2 from the Czech Republic.

I agree that the British are a lazy lot but that's the governments fault by offering such high benefits for not working.

I don't blame any of the eastern europeans for coming here, in their position i'd do exactly the same but I reallydon't see how they're good for our country when they live 10 or more to a house, spend as little as possible and send as much money home as they can, we spend our money in the UK keeping the economy moving
 
Anton Roland said:
Shall I sit it out in S.A. then, guys?:eek:
:D
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No ! Get over here and join us. Here's a few tips on how to be British ............

Being British is about
driving in a German car to an Irish pub for a Belgian beer, then travelling home, grabbing an Indian curry or a Turkish kebab on the way, to sit on Swedish furniture and watch American shows on a Japanese TV.

And the most British thing of all? Suspicion of all things foreign!

Only in Britain can a pizza get to your house faster than an ambulance.

Only in Britain do supermarkets make sick people walk all the way to the back of the shop to get their prescriptions while healthy people can buy cigarettes at the front.


Only in Britain do people order double cheeseburgers, large fries and a DIET coke.

Only in Britain do banks leave both doors open and chain the pens to the counters.

Only in Britain do we leave cars worth thousands of pounds on the drive and lock our junk and cheap lawn mower in the garage. :bonk:
 
badgerbaiter said:
not sure whether to laugh or cry at some of the things in this thread

comparing uk problems to south african problems is nothing short of ridiculous.
lots of south africans would love to have the problems we have.

the most dangerous areas of south africa make the most dangerous parts of the UK look like a holiday resort.

as for the immigration in this country, i wish gordon brown would let more hardworking immigrants in, and kick out some of the lazy indigenous species who dont do anything other than dream of being Katie Price.
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NorthernNikon said:
Where else have you lived then? What experience are you drawing on when you give us this considered opinion? Or is it just the uninformed throw away comment of someone who doesn't know they're born and doesn't make the most of what they actually have?

I've been around the world and wouldn't live anywhere else. If I had to I'd consider Scandanavia. The UK has so much to offer. Yes house prices are stupidly high in places, yes we are heavily taxed, but then anyone who is sick has access to free health care, yes the weather isn't the greatest but then I've never known anyone get bitten my a tick in this country and die and we don't get the really wild weather the tropics suffer. Europe is on your doorstep where you have mountains, fjords, tourquioise seas, green hills and valleys and so much variety you would die before you'd seen it all.

I'd recommend the UK to anyone.
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Well said chaps.
 
Anton, I seriously don't think you'd have any problems coming to the UK. We apparently now have a 'points' based immigration system, but I have no idea of how long the process would take. Have you looked at the relevant UK immigration websites?

I am in the process of trying to leave the UK, so you could always take my place ;)
 
This country is seriously screwed:eek: it's in debt more than ever, the whole economy will collapse in a couple of years, immigration is totally uncontrolled, no police on the streets other than those who can only say "please stop" and the scum on the streets laugh at them. Highest taxes, highest food prices, highest fuel prices.

The whole pension scheme is totally screwed, NHS is pathetic and overfunded, yet when decent people need drugs or treatment they are dealt with by beaurocratic ****s out to save money (nice) They talk about building at least 70,000 new houses a year but no'one can afford them.
Watch TV (crimewatch, or similar) and it's all non british perps.

In 30 years this country will be the cesspit of the world :gag:(no, that's wrong give it 5)

Don't come here You'll regret it.....


Sorry folks - rant over
 
The grass always looks greener on the other side Anton.
 
Splog said:
This country is seriously screwed:eek: it's in debt more than ever, the whole economy will collapse in a couple of years, immigration is totally uncontrolled, no police on the streets other than those who can only say "please stop" and the scum on the streets laugh at them. Highest taxes, highest food prices, highest fuel prices.

The whole pension scheme is totally screwed, NHS is pathetic and overfunded, yet when decent people need drugs or treatment they are dealt with by beaurocratic ****s out to save money (nice) They talk about building at least 70,000 new houses a year but no'one can afford them.
Watch TV (crimewatch, or similar) and it's all non british perps.

In 30 years this country will be the cesspit of the world :gag:(no, that's wrong give it 5)

Don't come here You'll regret it.....


Sorry folks - rant over
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stop watching TV, reading newspapers and believing every thing you read.

if you really believe this is such a bad place to live then go do something about it.
the real problem in the UK is too many moaners and not enough do-ers (and bad grammar LOL)
 
The immigration issue is very similar to when all the Brits were going over to Germany in the eighties.
But they did not get all the benefits that the immigrants get here!
We have Polish workers here & they are very hardworking, but the fact that we sent over 26 million in child benefits back to Poland last year does tend to annoy slightly.

That money could have been used to bolster the NHS which is struggling to cope with the large influx of immigrants.

Anyway back to lunch, rant over with.:wave:

Spence
 
You can try looking at the Highly Skilled Migrant Programme (HSMP). It is points based and it's really straight forward to go through the form yourself to see if you would qualify. There's no need to use an immigration lawyer or anything.

http://www.bia.homeoffice.gov.uk/workingintheuk/hsmp/

Any questions, PM me.
 
kamion said:
You can try looking at the Highly Skilled Migrant Programme (HSMP). It is points based and it's really straight forward to go through the form yourself to see if you would qualify. There's no need to use an immigration lawyer or anything.

http://www.bia.homeoffice.gov.uk/workingintheuk/hsmp/

Any questions, PM me.
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i'd just like to congratulate kamion for posting the only useful and on-topic post :)
 
Hi Anton,

I do wonder if it is a case of the "grass is greener on the otherside of the fence".

Half of my wife's family grew up in SA (cape town) and the other half her in the UK. My wife's cousins have now moved here (and one of them has since moved on again to NZ) for one reason or another, while my sister in-law is in the process of migrating to SA.

Although, I will say that all that have moved here love it, and the one which went to NZ only went because the chap she met here couldn't stay any longer.

All the best with you decision, and I look forward to visiting your lovely country again next June when I hope to get across for the Lions tour.
 
well well well.

British people what a miserable bunch you are.

i am English and would not want to live anywhere else, apart from lots of other issues why would i want to leave behind all my family and friends.

i work for minimum wage and buy what i can afford.

would i like more money yes but i would rather do what I'm doing and spend time with my family and friends.

some of you must be living very sad and lonely lives.

you have to make the best of what you have got.

get out there and have some fun.
 
jolsterj said:
well well well.

British people what a miserable bunch you are.

i am English and would not want to live anywhere else, apart from lots of other issues why would i want to leave behind all my family and friends.

i work for minimum wage and buy what i can afford.

would i like more money yes but i would rather do what I'm doing and spend time with my family and friends.

some of you must be living very sad and lonely lives.

you have to make the best of what you have got.

get out there and have some fun.
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Good man! I couldn't agree more. :)
 
People have various reasons for wanting to move to another country. I hardly see my family, I have no friends here in the area I live, and although I love my job, I hate the politics and beaurocracy that go with it (NHS). I am leaving the UK behind predominantly to get more job satisfaction and a better standard of living, not because I hate the UK (although it has declined).
There is good and bad in everything, and life certainly is what you make it!
 
jolsterj said:
well well well.

British people what a miserable bunch you are.

i am English and would not want to live anywhere else, apart from lots of other issues why would i want to leave behind all my family and friends.

i work for minimum wage and buy what i can afford.

would i like more money yes but i would rather do what I'm doing and spend time with my family and friends.

some of you must be living very sad and lonely lives.

Spence

you have to make the best of what you have got.

get out there and have some fun.
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Whoa!
I'm not miserable:D

I love my life, my job, my wife,my family & my friends.
But I've worked hard to get where I am (i'm by no means wealthy)

I consider myself wealthy, but in terms of the many friends I have.
I could never leave this country & do not intend to.:nono:

Anton, you could always come over for a holiday to see what you think?

There is plenty of jobs here for those willing to work & we have some great rugbyteams, especially the national one?;)
 
badgerbaiter said:
stop watching TV, reading newspapers and believing every thing you read.

if you really believe this is such a bad place to live then go do something about it.
the real problem in the UK is too many moaners and not enough do-ers (and bad grammar LOL)
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Grammer! - Now I've given you a spelling error to moan about :lol:


:shrug: What's so good about the place then? :lol: resorting to a personal attack (very :thumbsdown:)

The real problem in the UK is too many do-ers or should that be do-gooders :razz:

:bang:
 
Splog said:
:shrug: What's so good about the place then?
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not starving
not living in a refugee camp
not suffering from malaria
not having to walk 30 miles in my bare feet just to get some water
not having to experience ethnic cleansing
not being in the middle of civil war

that might sound like one of those god awful charity adverts on tv, but those are some pretty good things about this place.
 
badgerbaiter said:
are you referring to me?
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Yes

i didnt realise i embarked on a personal attack? you'll have to point out what you are referring to as you might have misconstrued what I was saying.
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stop watching TV, reading newspapers and believing every thing you read.
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This is personal as you make assumptions about my behaviour and FYI I have never read anywhere any of the statements I made in the rant.

OK I accept the rant was a bit OTT but it's not too far from what is actually the case (my opinion)
 
badgerbaiter said:
not starving
not living in a refugee camp
not suffering from malaria
not having to walk 30 miles in my bare feet just to get some water
not having to experience ethnic cleansing
not being in the middle of civil war

that might sound like one of those god awful charity adverts on tv, but those are some pretty good things about this place.
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By stating things that are not good elsewhere is not the same as saying what is good here :( I could say good things (and there are many) but my post was on the bad things

I fully accept and realise that there are far worse living conditions in other countries (and I have visited many) I would sincerely love to see issues such as these resolved but just because people suffer elsewhere it does not make it right for our government to destroy this country's infrastructure :cuckoo: The whole philosophy in business and government is about making money any way they can with no concern for the people, other than to keep themselves and their chronies in overpaid jobs telling us how to live our lives :(


Not good for anyone
 
kamion said:
You can try looking at the Highly Skilled Migrant Programme (HSMP). It is points based and it's really straight forward to go through the form yourself to see if you would qualify. There's no need to use an immigration lawyer or anything.

http://www.bia.homeoffice.gov.uk/workingintheuk/hsmp/

Any questions, PM me.
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Thanks Kam:thumbs:

Where have you been, haven't seen you here for ages?:rules:

:lol:
 
lee said:
Hi Anton,

I do wonder if it is a case of the "grass is greener on the otherside of the fence".

Half of my wife's family grew up in SA (cape town) and the other half her in the UK. My wife's cousins have now moved here (and one of them has since moved on again to NZ) for one reason or another, while my sister in-law is in the process of migrating to SA.

Although, I will say that all that have moved here love it, and the one which went to NZ only went because the chap she met here couldn't stay any longer.

All the best with you decision, and I look forward to visiting your lovely country again next June when I hope to get across for the Lions tour.
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June 2008 or June 2009?:clap:

Thanks for the very valid opinion...It really isn't (I would like to believe) a green grass thing. It is more this entitlement thing in Africa that really gets under my skin all wrong.

This morning on the early news TV there was this long sad song about some farmland somewhere that was bought by government (at sub-market value price no doubt) and given to the people.

The reason for this is that some historic ancestral land claim was lodged and the people want their land back.

Now I have no problem with this as lots of land was grabbed by previous governments.

But hear this::annoyed::annoyed:

Now the people are b**ching about the fact that there is no accomodation and infrastructure for them and they are suffering.

It is a farm in an arid rural part of the country for 5, 6, 7 and 8:bang::annoyed::annoyed:

Anyway, rant over for now:bonk:
 
minimeeze said:
People have various reasons for wanting to move to another country. I hardly see my family, I have no friends here in the area I live, and although I love my job, I hate the politics and beaurocracy that go with it (NHS). I am leaving the UK behind predominantly to get more job satisfaction and a better standard of living, not because I hate the UK (although it has declined).
There is good and bad in everything, and life certainly is what you make it!
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Now THAT is well said!:thumbs:
 
spencer;611342 Anton said:
Might just take you up on that offer soon Spence.:thumbs:

As far as rugby teams go... who holds the Webb Ellis again:naughty::D
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Anton Roland said:
Thanks Kam:thumbs:

Where have you been, haven't seen you here for ages?:rules:

:lol:
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I like small cosy forums. This place has grown too big. :lol:

It's hard to keep up with all the threads, so I just drop by once in a while and nose around. :)

It's a very big decision to uproot everything and move to another country. It's a very personal decision. There won't be another case that will be the same as yours.

At the end of the day, you will have to weigh everything and judge for yourself.

Taking a trip to the UK might be a good idea. You can apply for the HSMP, and then look at jobs in the UK while that is going through. Come over for a holiday and have a chat with various companies (if they're willing to entertain you), then if you get the HSMP approved, you can then decide if you want to actually make the move.

(Easier said than done). :D
 
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