Nikon D800......

Laudrup said:
Bought the Zeiss 100mm f/2, very nicely made lens with an excellent focus ring that should make it good for macro or any video work.
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That's a cracking lens, probably the best there is for that FR. When it comes to Zeiss the 15, 21 & 100 are pretty unsurpassable. The new 135 looks great too.
 
boyfalldown said:
The 105dc is a fantastic lens, but the d800 show many of the flaws in the design. They're not a great combo
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Ive got the 135dc and its fantastic. Maybe you could elaborate on these flaws a little?
 
Cagey75 said:
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One from the zoo yesterday. Nothing special - But! - it's very heavily cropped down for starters, we know how the D800 makes this possible while still maintaining a good quality file - but the dynamic range - others who took photos on their bridge cams, phones and even some Dslrs pretty much got a silhouette of the Gorrillas here because of the strong back light. I have toned highlights down a little in LR4, and also upped the shadows to reveal detail on the animals - but not a lot.
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It looks like you shot this at ISO 400 and so you will have thrown away an extra 1.5 stops of dynamic range by not shooting at base ISO. A lot of people forget that dynamic range varies with ISO.
 
There are few manual lenses out there that I would like to have a go at but can't as I am rubbish at manual focus. Why won't they bring focus peeking to these cameras? Had a go at it using a Sony Nex 6 and I loved it.
 
architectfadi said:
There are few manual lenses out there that I would like to have a go at but can't as I am rubbish at manual focus. Why won't they bring focus peeking to these cameras? Had a go at it using a Sony Nex 6 and I loved it.
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Just googled that (had not heard of it). Very impressive - if my camera had that or even a split screen focussing system I would rarely use auto focus.
 
Digifrog said:
That's a cracking lens, probably the best there is for that FR. When it comes to Zeiss the 15, 21 & 100 are pretty unsurpassable. The new 135 looks great too.
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I've got the Zeiss 21 for wide angle, it is as you say a cracking lens too. The 135 APO I quite fancied as I have a gap between 85 and 200, but the 100 f/2 can work as a macro too which meant a bit more versatility. I had the 135 DC for portraits once upon a time and it was very nice, although it is rather long in the tooth now and could do with a refresh. I find the 200 f/2 probably my best portrait lens, so don't miss a 135 too much.

The Zeiss I'm looking forward to is the 55 f/1.4. It's looking to take things to the next level. Gigantic beast of a lens though.
 
Thought I'd drop in with the D800 banter, having bought one from Calumet at Focus this year. Love it to bits. Very impressed so far.

I'd been waiting for over 2 years for a D300 replacement, but decided I could have full-frame and still get extended telephoto as it shoots at 16MP in DX mode. When I tried both the D7100 and the D800 at Focus, I was so impressed with the viewfinder and focusing speed of the D800, I decided I had to have one.

It was a fairly painless transition, as 4 of my 7 lenses were already FX, however, I have nothing really wide angle any more, although the 24-70mm feels a lot wider now. Getting rid of my 3 DX lenses means camera bag conundrums are less frequent :-)

Considering I was very dubious when they announced the D800, I must say that I'm impressed with the level of detail and lack of noise I'm getting. I'd put off an upgrade for so long, I was missing out on all the tech evolution, and really notice the difference. I was worried that I was going to have to lug a lot more weight around, but I can't say I've noticed much difference.

Well, seeing as it's customary to post images here, I'd better join the crowd...

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Had mine a while now, getting used to it slowly. It is savage on anything other than top notch glass,my 28-300 is fine on the D700 but woeful on the 800.

Cropability....new word....isn`t too bad.

No crop:



Kes SOOC by Fracster, on Flickr


Savage crop:




Kestrel with prey by Fracster, on Flickr


This was shot in heavy rain as well.
 
Yeah, I'm pretty impressed with the cropability too...

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('scuse the blown highlights, it was a grab shot at +1EV)
 
Yep, it certainly "extends" lens range.
 
One last photo from me. This was accidentally shot at ISO6400. I was stunned by the detail and lack of noise.

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Just a few snapshots. Shot a wedding with it today and it performed amazing for me
 
Yes, lovely bokeh. Is that the 85/1.4?

One thing I've done to my D800, which might interest people, is reassign the lower function button to Image Size. If I hold in the button and rotate the command dial, my frame size alternates between different crops. I also have a custom setting which turns the area outside the crop to a translucent grey.

So, if I'm using a telephoto and want to shoot a 16MP DX crop of a distant object, I just hold-click-click and then shoot. You can see the frame size, so you don't forget to hold-click-click back again.

Here's one I prepared earlier: shot with my lovely new antique AF 300mm f/4. Foxy was about 50ft away.

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Yeah the sigma 85 1.4. Absolutely amazing lens. 70-200 is a nice general portrait lens but the 85mm adds a nice touch for intimate portraits.

As for the sigma haters, it requires 0 adjustment and is absolutely perfect! Lol
 
Sorry, I've been a bit of a thread hog today. I've just been going through my recent photos and I found a better extreme crop example, which I thought was worth sharing. Another grab shot: walking in the Dales I heard a funny bird noise and just happened to have my 70-300mm fitted. I spun around, and one shot was all I managed.

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300mm 1/250s @ f/8 +2/3EV ISO100

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Some lovely shots all-round. And since birds are popular, here's one I took same day as the gorilla pic. The bird [Robin I think] just landed in a tree right above us, I had to snap fast, he was gone right after I grabbed this.






Wild bird, Phoenix park by Cagey75, on Flickr

Mahoosive crop!
 
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ah5168 said:
It looks like you shot this at ISO 400 and so you will have thrown away an extra 1.5 stops of dynamic range by not shooting at base ISO. A lot of people forget that dynamic range varies with ISO.
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The cam was stuck to ISO 400 for most of the day, it was one of those dull-one-minute, sunny the next, type days. I just left it at 400 and adjusted the aperture as I went along, I had 2 kids hanging out of me for the day so didn't want to fuss too much on settings.
 
essexash said:
Ive got the 135dc and its fantastic. Maybe you could elaborate on these flaws a little?
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As I said its a fantastic lens. But it does struggle with CA & lack of contrast in backlit situations. These show up lots on the d800
 
Yammer said:
Yes, lovely bokeh. Is that the 85/1.4?

One thing I've done to my D800, which might interest people, is reassign the lower function button to Image Size. If I hold in the button and rotate the command dial, my frame size alternates between different crops. I also have a custom setting which turns the area outside the crop to a translucent grey.

So, if I'm using a telephoto and want to shoot a 16MP DX crop of a distant object, I just hold-click-click and then shoot. You can see the frame size, so you don't forget to hold-click-click back again.

Here's one I prepared earlier: shot with my lovely new antique AF 300mm f/4. Foxy was about 50ft away.

Had mine set up like that since late last year - very handy.
Actually very convenient to get the camera set up so you can do all you want using buttons and command dials rather than delving into menus.

Super fox shot, Keith.
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fred2511 said:
Having the dust issue with my D600 and thinking making the switch for the D800 :-)
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Fred, just be sure that your own anti dust precautions pass muster. If you are not carefull about that then the risk of dust ingress will be greater than it need be no matter what body you have.
You cannot eliminate dust risk, but you can reduce it.:thumbs:
 
I'm normaly very good and that D600 ad the same lenses from the start.
used a rocket blower but the dust cane back.
My main concerned is the oil residue as only a wet clean will remove them.
 
fred2511 said:
I'm normaly very good and that D600 ad the same lenses from the start.
used a rocket blower but the dust cane back.
My main concerned is the oil residue as only a wet clean will remove them.
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That is a bummer:thumbsdown:
 
It will give me a good reason to upgrade to the Big Boys Group lol
The extend of dust and oil can be seen at f8 and one of the spot is HUGE.
My Leica M8 was pretty bad for dust but nothing like that.
 
I have a d600 and the dust and oil or whatever problem and I bought a d800 as a consequence. I don't regret it - the d800 is a lot more of an everyday camera than I had expected. Of course diffraction starts above f5.6 but so far this has not been a problem, and neither is the file size as you have a lot of options there.
 
Johnytuono said:
Diffraction starts above 5.6? Really? Haven't noticed it on my lenses. Does it depend on the lens? I thought diffraction may start to occur above f11.
JohnyT
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As always there is a difference between theory and the real world.

The maths are here:-
http://www.btobey.com/nikon/d800-diffraction.php

As is explained in practice around f11 is where it appears (assuming you can actually see it:lol:)
 
AchimT said:
I have a d600 and the dust and oil or whatever problem and I bought a d800 as a consequence. I don't regret it - the d800 is a lot more of an everyday camera than I had expected. Of course diffraction starts above f5.6 but so far this has not been a problem, and neither is the file size as you have a lot of options there.
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Thanks, diffraction is a new word for me , going to see one tomorrow and will see if I pull the trigger.
 
AchimT said:
I have a d600 and the dust and oil or whatever problem and I bought a d800 as a consequence. I don't regret it - the d800 is a lot more of an everyday camera than I had expected. Of course diffraction starts above f5.6 but so far this has not been a problem, and neither is the file size as you have a lot of options there.
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I always thought diffraction was more lens related, and I certainly never noticed any with any of my lenses on the D800 at 5.6, or even f/11 for that matter.
 
Slightly confused by ken rockwell revue of the D800, great camera , best camera but it can do the same with is X100 and the only reason to have a D800 is the need to have the latest gear.
I remember my 5D and it did produce better stuff then my X100 and I love my X100.
My main use will be portrait and architectural landscape, I also have a project to photograph a National trust property for there portfolio.
So my mind is set on the D800 thinking i will gain something from it.
Please don't reply is the photographer not the camera as I have done 20 year in photography and gear does help i think.
So I ask D7000 vs D700 vs D800 I'm so confused but ready to pull the trigger as my D600 ad to go back( faulty)
 
Cagey75 said:
I always thought diffraction was more lens related, and I certainly never noticed any with any of my lenses on the D800 at 5.6, or even f/11 for that matter.
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The iris shape has an influence (so I am told). It is one of these things that I never knew was a problem until someone said it was. Tempted to say "forget it and carry on as before".
 
Well, that's exactly what I'll do ^^ ;) because as I said, never noticed such difraction so it doesn't bother me really.

Also, ignore just about everything Ken Rockwell ever rants on his horrible page. He changes his mind like the weather. He'd have you believe all you ever need is a D40 and a kit lens. Yet he has every mahooosive lens Nikon ever made.

He's also massively contradicted himself. Is the X100 not just another "latest gear" cam? It is also not cheap by any means, once you add lenses in it's almost as pricey as a D800. And it is not as good quality. He's a fool.
 
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Cagey75 said:
Well, that's exactly what I'll do ^^ ;) because as I said, never noticed such difraction so it doesn't bother me really.

Also, ignore just about everything Ken Rockwell ever rants on his horrible page. He changes his mind like the weather. He'd have you believe all you ever need is a D40 and a kit lens. Yet he has every mahooosive lens Nikon ever made.

He's also massively contradicted himself. Is the X100 not just another "latest gear" cam? It is also not cheap by any means, once you add lenses in it's almost as pricey as a D800. And it is not as good quality. He's a fool.
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Thanks it does confused me with is changed or mixed mind, I will get my D800 and see how it goes. I'm not a pro but I have a stressful job.
I deserved a nice big camera :)
 
Diffraction has indeed not been a problem for me yet. When I first heard about it I thought I had to take this into account, but as I wrote, I have not yet seen it in my images.

For the d800 due to the size of the pixels on its sensor, apertures above 5.6 will cause it, but I don't know at which aperture and in which circumstances you will actually see it.
 
Diffraction has indeed not been a problem for me yet. When I first heard about it I thought I had to take this into account, but as I wrote, I have not yet seen it in my images.

For the d800 due to the size of the pixels on its sensor, apertures above 5.6 will cause it, but I don't know at which aperture and in which circumstances you will actually see it.
 
Got the 800e after getting frustrated with the left AF point issue on the D7100.

What a fantastic Camera it is! I lost some magnification compared to the D7100 buy the high ISO capabilities more than make up for it.
 
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