Nikon D800......

architectfadi said:
Surprisingly, Nikon doesn't have any of their 50mm lenses in the list of recommended lenses to be used with the D800/E
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Of course not.. they're not expensive enough :)



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[Doh!.... didn't see Toni's post]
 
Pookeyhead said:
Of course not.. they're not expensive enough :)



Pay no attention to that page.


[Doh!.... didn't see Toni's post]
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Yes, unfortunately Nikon seems to be of the opinion that if you have paid a lot of money for one of their cameras then you should jolly well be prepared to pay a lot for suitable lenses and accessories.
 
It just said 'some lenses' not the only lenses. The 60mm f/2.8D isn't an expensive lens and often overlooked compared to the 50s.
 
Cagey75 said:
Yup, just not been uploading much. Over the last few weeks I've shot a few gigs, a lot of macro and the usual shots of the kids and cat that nobody wants to see but the family.

I've not had any issues with my D800. Thankfully. But I've not been using it maybe as much as I should.
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What type of gigs do you shoot Cagney? I am thinking of the 800 as an upgrade from my 300s.

I shoot a lot of small venue low light gigs - no flash, using 35mm, 50mm and 85mm Nikkor's. I was hoping the full frame and better ISO performance would be a big plus..but that is balanced by the apparent lower fps speed.

Would be interested in your thoughts?
 
Cagney?? :D I shoot anything from Ballet to punk rock gigs, whatever I'm requested[and of course paid to :) ] The latter being my preference, I shoot gigs just for fun at times. I don't present myself as a gig-photographer, just happens to be a lot of musicians around here, and I know a fair few of them. It's more the odd gig I do rather than regularly.

Lower fps? With an FX camera you are able to use fast enough shutter and balance the light out with higher ISO and still maintain a clean enough image.

The ISO performance of the 800 is superior to the D90 by far, I would imagine the D300s is similar performance-wise to that, as they used the same sensor.

When shooting gigs or shows, I never use flash. I mostly use my 24-70 2.8, and primes like the 35 1.4 and my 85 1.8. I also use my 150mm 2.8 for tighter shots since I sold on my 70-200. I try to keep the shutter speeds up as much as possible. 1/125 at least, to prevent blurring.

The ISO performance on the D800 allows good clear, non-noisey shots at 1/200, even stopped down a little for extra sharpness. Just a quick example, I don't post many job-shots online;


Brother Shabo & the Soul rebels by Cagey75, on Flickr

Nikon D800E [EXIF].
Lens: 70.0-200.0 mm f/2.8
Exposure: 0.005 sec (1/200)
Aperture: f/4.0
ISO Speed: 2000
Focal Length: 200 mm
 
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My Nikon 50mm f1.4 is fine on my d800e, although it looks a little lost compared to larger lenses
 
I bought a 50mm 1.8 when I bought the D800E, it was great on there, felt a little funny as it was the biggest body I'd used to date and smallest lens combo' - And when I got the 24-70 I managed to sell on the 50mm for very little loss.
 
Cagey75 said:
Cagney?? :D I shoot anything from Ballet to punk rock gigs, whatever I'm requested[and of course paid to :) ] The latter being my preference, I shoot gigs just for fun at times. I don't present myself as a gig-photographer, just happens to be a lot of musicians around here, and I know a fair few of them. It's more the odd gig I do rather than regularly.

Lower fps? With an FX camera you are able to use fast enough shutter and balance the light out with higher ISO and still maintain a clean enough image.

The ISO performance of the 800 is superior to the D90 by far, I would imagine the D300s is similar performance-wise to that, as they used the same sensor.

When shooting gigs or shows, I never use flash. I mostly use my 24-70 2.8, and primes like the 35 1.4 and my 85 1.8. I also use my 150mm 2.8 for tighter shots since I sold on my 70-200. I try to keep the shutter speeds up as much as possible. 1/125 at least, to prevent blurring.

The ISO performance on the D800 allows good clear, non-noisey shots at 1/200, even stopped down a little for extra sharpness. Just a quick example, I don't post many job-shots online;


Brother Shabo & the Soul rebels by Cagey75, on Flickr

Nikon D800E [EXIF].
Lens: 70.0-200.0 mm f/2.8
Exposure: 0.005 sec (1/200)
Aperture: f/4.0
ISO Speed: 2000
Focal Length: 200 mm
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Thanks for the feedback Cagney. Sounds like its a good one! The majority of my venues are small with poor or next to none lights! I never use flah personally and rely on my 85mm 1.8 (which is a banker with great results), a 35mm 1.8 (although thats a DX) and ocassionaly my 50mm 1.8G. ISO usually up around 1600/2200 to keep my speed up to 1/125 min.

Just need to find £2,000!!! oh...and tell the wife its a bargain!!
 
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snaphappy1952 said:
ooops!!! I wont be the first....or last...I reckon.

Sorry Cagey75
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Haha, no worries really. I have this alias over 10 years now, used it first on the old Kerrang grunge boards, when they were good ... and carried through many sites since. I have gotten called all sorts, Cagney isn't so bad :D
 
Gramps did you get checking out your sigma 85 1.4 on the D800, results I am getting from it are amazing!!
 
D800 and Tamron 28-75mm and Hoya Pro 1 CPL @f/8 ISO 100 28mm

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TonyNI said:
Gramps did you get checking out your sigma 85 1.4 on the D800, results I am getting from it are amazing!!
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Haven't yet Tony, I've grown fond of the 35-70 but I'll give the 85 1.4 a go again with the D800 soon :)
 
I've fallen back in love with my d800 again. The 3 week trip to china allowed a lot of use and I'm glad I didn't make the choice to switch right away.

The E files defiantly need less sharpening either that or my first wasn't as sharp over all.

I'm still having slight issues with lens though I think that may be due to the 36mp showing it up more than my d700 or i just never noticed it before.
I think I may need to change the MA for longer distance's with my 85 as at head shot range it's pin sharp at +9 but at infinity, full body shots at distance it's totally off. My 24-70 acts similarly at 70mm.
 
pmac said:
I'm still having slight issues with lens though I think that may be due to the 36mp showing it up more than my d700 or i just never noticed it before.
I think I may need to change the MA for longer distance's with my 85 as at head shot range it's pin sharp at +9 but at infinity, full body shots at distance it's totally off. My 24-70 acts similarly at 70mm.
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Is that a common issue? Does that mean that you will have to change the MA for your 85mm lens every time you change distance to subject? and surely the same will apply to other lenses :'(.
 
Any D800 users in the market for a portrait lens I would highly suggest you look at the sigma 85 f/1.4. Amazing lens with lightning fast AF
 
My new 85 is fine up to around 2m by around 5-6m it needs a MA of 20. Its going back, shame as its great.
 
twist said:
My new 85 is fine up to around 2m by around 5-6m it needs a MA of 20. Its going back, shame as its great.
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Haven't needed any adjustment whatsoever. The difference in my replacement D800 body is night and day. Wouldn't be surprised if it was your camera mate!
 
Its not my camera, I tested with my 70-200 VR, 70-200 OS, 28-70, 50 1.4 all spot on at 0 MA. Ive had this before with Sigma lenses on various cameras when all the other lenses were perfect, Sigma said its the lens if all my other lenses are fine and to send it in for calibration. You'll also read about similar experiences with this lens on the web and copy variation.
 
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Still keeping my eyes open for another but will do the same I did when finding my 50, go for known good mint used after seeing samples.
 
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One from the zoo yesterday. Nothing special - But! - it's very heavily cropped down for starters, we know how the D800 makes this possible while still maintaining a good quality file - but the dynamic range - others who took photos on their bridge cams, phones and even some Dslrs pretty much got a silhouette of the Gorrillas here because of the strong back light. I have toned highlights down a little in LR4, and also upped the shadows to reveal detail on the animals - but not a lot.
 
That's a cracker shot. Agreed the dynamic range is pretty impressive. Getting a silhouette to be honest is just down to the cameras meter if they had compensated they could have got a reasonable exposure
 
TonyNI said:
That's a cracker shot. Agreed the dynamic range is pretty impressive. Getting a silhouette to be honest is just down to the cameras meter if they had compensated they could have got a reasonable exposure
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But if you compensate and expose to reveal the shadows instead of a silhouette, the highlights would have blown seriously, wouldn't they?
 
david357 said:
But if you compensate and expose to reveal the shadows instead of a silhouette, the highlights would have blown seriously, wouldn't they?
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True! The D800 handles harsh contrast like nothing else
 
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That's the thing, they could have locked on to the gorillas and use +exp comp but they'd have blown the back drop, it was fairly bright, the sun was over that side.
As it was the gorrila's faces were tough to make out before I lifted the shadows in post. On files from a lesser cam, you'd have a much tougher job trying not to ruin it.

Nice one Gary, which one am I though? :D
 
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It's practically summer here in Kent.

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BTW that's the Nikon 50/1.4 AF-S version. I've never really liked that lens on my D3/S. But for some reason it seems very at home on the D800.
 
Bought the Zeiss 100mm f/2, very nicely made lens with an excellent focus ring that should make it good for macro or any video work.
 
Looks a savage lens that. If I wasn't so sluggish with MF I'd seriously consider trading off my 85mm + 150mm lenses and grab one. Because somehow, whether it's my style of shooting or for whatever reason, I find one to always be that bit short, and the other too long, in most situations.
 
Cagey75 said:
Looks a savage lens that. If I wasn't so sluggish with MF I'd seriously consider trading off my 85mm + 150mm lenses and grab one. Because somehow, whether it's my style of shooting or for whatever reason, I find one to always be that bit short, and the other too long, in most situations.
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What about the 105DC?
 
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