Nikon D600 / D610 Official Users thread - Anything D6x0 related

A great upgrade would be the fix of the dust/oil on the sensor :) And I would say that alone is worth it, thought maybe not an entirely new model... but hey they want to make money out of it....
 
plamen_gb said:
A great upgrade would be the fix of the dust/oil on the sensor :) And I would say that alone is worth it, thought maybe not an entirely new model... but hey they want to make money out of it....
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Pretty sure this doesnt affect all D600 users?
 
I've read that the issue affects randomly and I guess depends on the usage, but I don't think this has been rectified at any point during the D600 production....
 
plamen_gb said:
I've read that the issue affects randomly and I guess depends on the usage, but I don't think this has been rectified at any point during the D600 production....
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I thought it was initial batches, could still be a lot of old stock out there.
 
There was talk it was fixed but not sure, I got my D600 cleaned at Nikon as a precaution but I actually think it was dust rather than oil.

Hasn't been an issue since but I have got over the 4000 or so shots which seems to be where it stops for a lot of folk.
 
Nikon newbie said:
I thought I heard somewhere that wet-cleaning the sensor yourself invalidated the Nikon warranty. Is this true or boulder dash?!
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Possibly, but how would they even know :thinking:
 
The D600 has the same AF as the D7000 which is no slouch really. The D700 has on paper a superior system.

In practice though I've found them to be fairly neck & neck. There's been a couple of times where I think the D700 would have grabbed focus but the D600 didn't but literally a couple of times out of I don't know how many.

Personally I think the dust/oil issues are only a real problem if you shoot at high apertures. So if you are a landscape tog or studio tog then you should think about it. If like me you tend to shoot as wide open as you can then it's a non-issue. The few times I've had dust issues I just used my rocket blower and it did the trick.
 
AFAIR in the manual it indeed says somewhere that touching the sensor invalidates the warranty.

But as John says, how would the even know, and also, IIRC, some courts in Europe have ruled that such clauses in warranty terms apply only if the manipulation caused the problem. If I remember this correctly, cleaning the sensor should not void the warranty WRT oil spots, as the oil spots are not caused by cleaning the sensor.

Maybe someone can confirm whether I remember this correctly?
 
Having used both the D600 and D7100 side by side I can't fault the focus system on either.

I don't find the D7100 any quicker and if it it it's not noticeable in real world conditions.

As for the focus points on the D600...

I always usually shoot using the centre area on both cameras. I have always been a focus and recompose person as I find this a quicker method than keep having to change focus points during busy shoots.

I have also used the D600 for sport and didn't find its focus system limiting.
 
I find it hard to believe they'll release a new model just to fix an issue as simple to solve as a little shutter oil
 
I think the reason for the 'new model', which is, if the rumours are true, just a new name for pretty much the same camera, is just to start over with a clean name. The name D600 has been mentioned too much in connection with those oil spot issues. Maybe this has affected sales, and starting with a new name could remedy this.
 
AchimT said:
I think the reason for the 'new model', which is, if the rumours are true, just a new name for pretty much the same camera, is just to start over with a clean name. The name D600 has been mentioned too much in connection with those oil spot issues. Maybe this has affected sales, and starting with a new name could remedy this.
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Maybe you're right, but thats true of many other models of camera (and other stuff) the focus issues on the early d800s, the SAB on the early x100 etc etc etc. Just seems somehow like even though it was talked about lots not really that big a deal (just IMHO)
 
Prices seem to be dropping daily on the D600 now. On paper it's my dream camera, full-frame loveliness for travel and crop mode for motorsport. I have a horrible nagging doubt about the sensor though, most of my motorsport is shot at f16-f22, am I setting myself up for a lot of problems?
 
If I owned a D600 I would be a bit unhappy that Nikon have released this. They should be offering a solution to all the unhappy d600 users out there that been basically sold into a product that has an inherent fault.
 
f/2.8 said:
If I owned a D600 I would be a bit unhappy that Nikon have released this. They should be offering a solution to all the unhappy d600 users out there that been basically sold into a product that has an inherent fault.
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its not been released. If it happens I agree about the unhappy d600 owners. Theres not a 'fault' in the d600, just needs a bloody good clean
 
If this camera is released, surely they will need to offer at least some new features, otherwise they'd be effectively admitting the issue with the D600.

Maybe they'll give us D600 a new D610 for free :lol:
 
f/2.8 said:
If I owned a D600 I would be a bit unhappy that Nikon have released this. They should be offering a solution to all the unhappy d600 users out there that been basically sold into a product that has an inherent fault.
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I don't think it is an inherent fault. all dslr will get dust on the sensor. they get in when you change lens. hack
 
f/2.8 said:
If I owned a D600 I would be a bit unhappy that Nikon have released this. They should be offering a solution to all the unhappy d600 users out there that been basically sold into a product that has an inherent fault.
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I don't think it is an inherent fault. all dslr will get dust on the sensor. they get in when you change lens. you can even get dusts in lens.
 
hyeongsoong said:
I don't think it is an inherent fault. all dslr will get dust on the sensor. they get in when you change lens. you can even get dusts in lens.
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Correct me if I am wrong I don't own a d600 but as far as I was aware the problem with the d600 wasn't dust on the sensor but oil which in turn then causes more dust than would be normal.
 
f/2.8 said:
Correct me if I am wrong I don't own a d600 but as far as I was aware the problem with the d600 wasn't dust on the sensor but oil which in turn then causes more dust than would be normal.
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I am afraid that is part of every day camera life as well. This doesn't only happen on D600. It can happen on all DSLRs. for example it is know to happen on cannon 1dx , 7D, nikon D700 etc.... Lot of people will not notice it because they don't shoot at F22. It is only when people heard about it on line, then they start to look for it.

More info here

http://www.talkphotography.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?t=236687
 
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I'm torn at the moment, the D600 is down to £1200 at Currys (lowest UK price since release) but I shoot an awful lot at f22 (motorsport panning at 1/30 in daylight) so I'm concerned that I may run into dust/oil issues.

I can't decide whether to wait for the D610, which I guess may be well over budget, or wait to see if the outgoing D600 drops further.
 
Won't ND filter be a better option ? You won't get the best IQ on any lens use F22. I won't worry about the dust/ oil issue. I got a d600 already done over 4000 pictures with it and no issue so far... :).
 
hyeongsoong said:
I am afraid that is part of every day camera life as well. This doesn't only happen on D600. It can happen on all DSLRs. for example it is know to happen on cannon 1dx , 7D, nikon D700 etc.... Lot of people will not notice it because they don't shoot at F22. It is only when people heard about it on line, then they start to look for it.

More info here

http://www.talkphotography.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?t=236687
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I have owned at one time or another a Nikon d40, d5000, d7000, d300, d700, and now have a d800. I haven't come across this issue on any of the cameras I have owned. 2 guys I know bought d600's and both had the oil problem.
 
f/2.8 said:
I have owned at one time or another a Nikon d40, d5000, d7000, d300, d700, and now have a d800. I haven't come across this issue on any of the cameras I have owned. 2 guys I know bought d600's and both had the oil problem.
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Clean the sensor then?
 
f/2.8 said:
I have owned at one time or another a Nikon d40, d5000, d7000, d300, d700, and now have a d800. I haven't come across this issue on any of the cameras I have owned. 2 guys I know bought d600's and both had the oil problem.
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As I said it doesn't happen to every body. Of all the camera you had , did you ever shoot at F22 ? Like I said , you wouldn't really notice it unless you are looking for it. It would normally show up on any thing less then f16. ;)
 
hyeongsoong said:
I don't think it is an inherent fault. all dslr will get dust on the sensor. they get in when you change lens. you can even get dusts in lens.
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It's a fault. I had to clean my D700 sensor a grand total of once, in the year and a half that I owned it (with regular lens changes). My D600's sensor was filthy after about 1500 shots.

Also if it wasn't a fault, then why would Nikon have replaced the shutter mechanism when it was in for a sensor clean?

The D610 is a clear admission of this. I was lucky and managed to return mine to the retailer, but the impact this will have on S/H D600 prices will no doubt anger owners, unless Nikon do some sort of trade in scheme (which is very unlikely).
 
EspressoJunkie said:
It's a fault. I had to clean my D700 sensor a grand total of once, in the year and a half that I owned it (with regular lens changes). My D600's sensor was filthy after about 1500 shots. Also if it wasn't a fault, then why would Nikon have replaced the shutter mechanism when it was in for a sensor clean? The D610 is a clear admission of this. I was lucky and managed to return mine to the retailer, but the impact this will have on S/H D600 prices will no doubt anger owners, unless Nikon do some sort of trade in scheme (which is very unlikely).
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If the d610 exists. Replacing the shutter mech may also have been good customer service in noticing a one off issue with yours
 
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boyfalldown said:
If the d610 exists. Replacing the shutter mech may also have been good customer service in noticing a one off issue with yours
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Nikon rumours (where the D610 info came from) are usually pretty spot on when it comes to this sort of thing. And its not just me who's had the shutter mechanism replaced, its standard procedure for any D600 sent in for a sensor clean under warranty.
 
EspressoJunkie said:
Nikon rumours (where the D610 info came from) are usually pretty spot on when it comes to this sort of thing. And its not just me who's had the shutter mechanism replaced, its standard procedure for any D600 sent in for a sensor clean under warranty.
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I didn't realise Nikon replaced shutters as standard. Interesting


We'll have to disagree how accurate NR actually are. They're sometimes right, but so is a stopped clock. Look honestly at how much they have wrong
 
Daryl said:
Hi guys, Had mine a 4 weeks now and shot about 4000 images..

Has anyone come across a few currupt images? 1 every 1000.

I've had four so far. Never had this from a camera since i went digital in 2001.

anyone else had this happen with 600? all on different cards.... so not that.
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Nope none. Were they on full/nearly full cards?
 
Daryl said:
Hi guys, Had mine a 4 weeks now and shot about 4000 images..

Has anyone come across a few currupt images? 1 every 1000.

I've had four so far. Never had this from a camera since i went digital in 2001.

anyone else had this happen with 600? all on different cards.... so not that.
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:thinking: Nope , none .

Now oil spot's :bonk:
 
I've just joined the D600 club, never thought I would buy a camera in Currys/PC World, but they're the cheapest by far in the UK at the moment.

Starting from scratch so still thinking about lens choice, Sigma 35mm 1.4 ART and something around 100mm are my immediate thoughts.
 
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