New [stolen] image search tool from Google

Jamtea said:
If you want I can translate a quick reply to send to him up if you type it out in English and PM it to me. My Japanese is pretty good, so it should be quite easy to do so. (Make sure you let me know which image is the one too)
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That's very kind of you, what about the verification code part that I mentioned in the above post, can you do anything with that?
 
Thanks for posting this up! I've found a valeting company using 2 of my pictures for advertising their company - you can even see part of my watermark that they've tried to crop out!
 
Oops Poor Tineye - there goes another business model! I had some success with Tineye - but I hope the people behind that have sold out already as google just blows them away. Getting money out of UK companies who taken images is one thing (easy to threaten the small claims court) but any clues on websites round the world? Also wondered if anyone was taking a different approach with blogs - don't expect many of them can pay the going rate so what to do - a take down notice, picture credit and backlink (admittedly you woud need a lot of links from these sort of sites to add any value to your SEO), or just ignore them.
 
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hewhoknows said:
Is this still classed as breach of copyright?
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They've used your images via the Flickr API (which actually just performs a search) but ignored the All Rights Reserved licence on your images.

Yes, in short. Whether it's worth your while to pursue them is another matter.

If you'd prefer people didn't do it, you can stop it by checking the Hide your photos from searches on 3rd party sites that use the API, including Yahoo! Image Search? box on this page.

http://www.flickr.com/account/prefs/optout/?from=privacy

However, if you've released some images under a CC licence, I think they get hidden too.
 
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Well now I'm just annoyed, searched for two images, on searching the second image I found a page with both it and a third image on it. The question is, now what...

Actually, that really is the question. I've found one on a blog, looks like a fairly inconsequential place, truly horrendous layout and what not. Ask them nicely to remove it? Ask for a billion pounds?
 
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Well I have a watermark on mine, and they are still showing. None are credited though!
Im not sure how I'd feel if I have a credit, I know its better than nothing, and as long as the credit is a link to my work I think it would be sufficient. I think for me it depends on the type of site and if it is used for making money!!..
 
Shutter said:
Well I have a watermark on mine, and they are still showing. None are credited though!
Im not sure how I'd feel if I have a credit, I know its better than nothing, and as long as the credit is a link to my work I think it would be sufficient. I think for me it depends on the type of site and if it is used for making money!!..
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I think thats the key for me too. Someone making money off me gets an instant bill. Somebody with a blog getting 10 visits a month with no clue gets a message.
 
is there anything that would search a batch of images at once? Having several hundred pics in flickr makes it a slow process one at a time :)
 
I think Tineye does that as part of it's premium service.
 
Well, the twit who had used my picture, among others, has removed that particular page from his blog. Thank you, Google Image search. I've found something else out that's interesting. What's the copyright protocol when a (different) sports blogger writes about an athlete (or many athletes) and links their name back to your photo? This also helps explain the huge number of views of this particular photo.
 
photogwannabe said:
Well, the twit who had used my picture, among others, has removed that particular page from his blog. Thank you, Google Image search. I've found something else out that's interesting. What's the copyright protocol when a (different) sports blogger writes about an athlete (or many athletes) and links their name back to your photo? This also helps explain the huge number of views of this particular photo.
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Might be worth making a specific thread for this as it's an unusual question and my be missed hidden away under this long thread :thumbs:
 
If there's one thing worse than being ripped off it's being ignored. Why is nobody stealing my pictures, are they that bad? :lol:
 
Ok I dragged a image from my computer and got no Internet connection when I put it in and did a search, I had with everything else.
I then brought up an image on TP and got property's -copy url - paste url - search. I get images must be larger than 20 bytes. I have windows 7 64 bit

Be gentle I am computer Illiterate
 
I found that someone has been using an image of mine on what appears to be a Russian website. It seems to have been there for nearly a year too.

It is credited but not linked back to Flickr as far as I can tell, plus I have not given permission for its use.

What should I do? I'm tempted to ask for reimbursement for unauthorised use but I'm not sure how to go about it, otherwise I want it removed.

Would Flickr help in getting it removed as it's not linked back?

There are a number of other peoples photos on there as well, some even by National Geographic. Would it be sensible to inform them?

Any ideas?

 
holryn said:
I found that someone has been using an image of mine on what appears to be a Russian website. It seems to have been there for nearly a year too.
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iskamdaznam.com is Bulgarian, not Russian.

whois said:
Domain Name: ISKAMDAZNAM.COM, registered by IcnDomains.net

Registrant:
n/a
Ivaylo (elated.firefly@gmail.com)
Gabrovo
Gabrovo
Sofija,1000
BG
Tel. +359.000000
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Might be a slight advantage as they're at least in the EU.

I shouldn't hold out much hope of getting payment, though.
 
Thanks Rob.

I don't really expect payment. But I'll send an email.

Should I send it direct to the one you have supplied or to the 'Contact Us' option on the website, do you reckon?

Any news on your situation?

Thanks again,

Paul
 
I'd try both.

If you don't hear back, this is the web hosting company for their server at 91.196.125.132

dig said:
organisation: ORG-NTL11-RIPE
org-name: SuperHosting.BG Ltd
org-type: OTHER
address: bul. Skobelev 62, ent. A, fl. 2
address: Bulgaria, Sofia
abuse-mailbox: abuse@superhosting.bg
admin-c: MDRE-RIPE
tech-c: MDRE-RIPE
mnt-by: SHOSTING-MNT
mnt-ref: SHOSTING-MNT
source: RIPE # Filtered
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I'm still gathering evidence on mine.
 
what was the name of that lawyer that did a letter for £2.99 or somthing chepa like that?
 
Found several sites using a distinct image of Rome which I took.

Have emailed the amateur sites with a polite notice.

But might send an invoice to the two Italian travel companies using it, but they look quite small. Wouldn't fancy going though Italian courts for 1000 Euros...
 
POAH said:
what was the name of that lawyer that did a letter for £2.99 or somthing chepa like that?
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You thinking of the Thomas Higgins Co letter before action?
 
I was disappointed with Google for denying this service to users of the Opera browser, but it is available if the site preferences are edited and Opera is masked as Firefox or IE. Really naff of Google to use browser detection in this way.

I wonder if they'll try to monetize the service by processing licence/compensation payments?
 
Have we worked out yet where these photo's are mostly taken from. Is it Flickr?

What would be really interesting is something to search Facebook images. I suspect/know there's several of mine on there.
 
Ive found 37 of my images that have been stolen now, its beyond a joke, its a full time job finding out contact emails, many of the sites are travel, travel agents, sports, although I dont do sports so why they used my images I no ideas, newspapers, fruit merchants, and many more, I even found one that someone had used it for a diploma course in the USA, and now their website they are professional wedding and portrait photographers, thats besides the multitude of blogs Ive found using my images,

Ive spent all afternoon and night yesterday, most of the morning and nearly all afternoon today and probably tonight as well, I think I'll need to take an assistant soon
 
To get the last file date at an offending site, using Opera's Dragonfly Developer Tools:

Copy the image address. It may be necessary to disable JavaScript (Tools > Quick Preferences) and switch to a User Mode style (View > Style > User Mode) to achieve this.

Launch Opera's Dragonfly Developer Tools from the Tools > Advanced menu; or by right-clicking on the page and selecting Inspect Element; or by using the Ctrl+Shift+I keyboard shortcut.

In Dragonfly, click the Network tab and then the Make request tab.

Paste in the image address in the URL box and click the Send request button.

In the response box, look for the "Last-Modified" line, from which you can work out the minimum length of time the image has been made use of.
 
If you're on a Mac or a Unix-style system such as Linux you can use the curl command line tool with the -I switch to download only the http headers of a file from the server, which include the Last-Modified timestamp.

e.g.

Code: 
curl -I http://static.bbc.co.uk/frameworks/barlesque/1.8.29//desktop/3/img/blocks/light.png

gets the response


Code: 
HTTP/1.1 200 OK
Server: Apache/2.2.19 (Unix)
Cache-Control: max-age=31536000
Content-Type: image/png
Date: Sat, 02 Jul 2011 21:40:02 GMT
Expires: Sun, 01 Jul 2012 21:39:56 GMT
Accept-Ranges: bytes
ETag: "3c5-4a490d2b27800"
Last-Modified: Tue, 31 May 2011 11:37:04 GMT
Age: 6
Content-Length: 965

e2a: a small benefit of this is that you don't have to download the whole file just to get the information.
 
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Ta Photon

I dont have opera, I had it once and dint like it, I'll give it another go

Cheers Rob

Im on window 7 sure theres a curl software, for that a well somewhere, I did have an open source version, but un-installed it
 
Yep, it's a common tool on Unices, but there's builds for Win32 and Win64 too

http://curl.haxx.se/download.html

(e2a: or, as it's open source, you can roll your own if that takes your fancy)

Dead handy for all sorts of tasks like batch or timed up/downloads if you partner it with cron or similar scheduling software. I have it pull daily copies of the logs from our web server for offline analysis, for example.
 
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One of the things this had made me do is to actually look at the stats on my sites.
My pbase account ticks over at 100-200 views a day. 16th june saw 5209 hits!
just running through those images now.
 
Musicman said:
Yep, it's a common tool on Unices, but there's builds for Win32 and Win64 too

http://curl.haxx.se/download.html

(e2a: or, as it's open source, you can roll your own if that takes your fancy)

Dead handy for all sorts of tasks like batch or timed up/downloads if you partner it with cron or similar scheduling software. I have it pull daily copies of the logs from our web server for offline analysis, for example.
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LOL well Ive got it now, how the heck do you use it, if I click on it it just opens and closes a dos window

I downloaded this version, Im running windows 7 win32 http://curl.haxx.se/dlwiz/?type=bin&os=Win32&flav=-&ver=2000/XP
 
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If you've installed it correctly, then you should be able to open a terminal window (Start Menu > Run...)

I think they've moved the Run Command in Windows 7, though.

http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/windows-vista/enable-run-command-on-windows-vista-start-menu/

type curl http://www.google.com into the terminal followed by a return. You should get some HTML back like this

<HTML><HEAD><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html;charset=utf-8">
<TITLE>302 Moved</TITLE></HEAD><BODY>
<H1>302 Moved</H1>
The document has moved
<A HREF="http://www.google.co.uk/">here</A>.
</BODY></HTML>
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to get the http header data, you type curl -I followed by the URL of the image you're tying to get the modification date for.


The manpage giving you all the other options is here
 
Just tried this for the first time. Lo and behold some American "personal growth" commercial site has had one of my photographs (absolutely no doubt) since 2009! It was blagged off Flickr where it had the most stringent CC license set...
 
Another option for getting the file date is Wget.

The Opera Dragonfly method has changed slightly since I've mentioned it in older threads. It's convenient for taking a screenshot of both the image and file header, and possibly within the capabilities of a site owner who's intimidated by a command prompt and doesn't know about EXIF or IPTC information ;)
 
Musicman said:
If you've installed it correctly, then you should be able to open a terminal window (Start Menu > Run...)

I think they've moved the Run Command in Windows 7, though.

http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/windows-vista/enable-run-command-on-windows-vista-start-menu/

type curl http://www.google.com into the terminal followed by a return. You should get some HTML back like this



to get the http header data, you type curl -I followed by the URL of the image you're tying to get the modification date for.


The manpage giving you all the other options is here
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I downloaded the file and unzipped it now folder curl is sat on my desk top, I run it but the window just opens and closes, Ive tried run as administrator same thing happens

photon said:
Another option for getting the file date is Wget.

The Opera Dragonfly method has changed slightly since I've mentioned it in older threads. It's convenient for taking a screenshot of both the image and file header, and possibly within the capabilities of a site owner who's intimidated by a command prompt and doesn't know about EXIF or IPTC information ;)
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Ok I'll get Opera as well thumbs:
 
photogwannabe said:
What's the copyright protocol when a (different) sports blogger writes about an athlete (or many athletes) and links their name back to your photo?
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Hotlinking has been frowned upon from the early days of the Web. If you have access to administer your webspace, and it's running on Apache, you can stop hotlinking and substitute another image with an .htaccess file (web.config for Windows server with IIS) -- plenty of tutorials: search for stop hotlinking. Search for deny referrer to stop visitors to a particular website following links to content at your site.

A blogger would probably claim they haven't any budget for photos, but it could be worth coming to an agreement before you deny their links.
 
Just Dave said:
I downloaded the file and unzipped it now folder curl is sat on my desk top, I run it but the window just opens and closes, Ive tried run as administrator same thing happens
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I have very rusty DOS skillz, I'm afraid. The last time I used an MS operating system in anger was DOS v3.x circa 1989.

Did you copy the .dll files to your C:\WINNT\SYSTEM32\ folder?
 
specialman said:
Maybe this is a mac/safari thing but all I get is the big, grey 'search images' button and the blue 'advanced image search' link next to it no camera icon...

Picture_1.png
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I use firefox mate, it shows on that :thumbs:
 
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