New PC - problems

Ok I think I done it right...
Opened RealTempGT - shows the load % and temps of all 4 cores.

Opened Prime95, do I run Benchmark or Torture test?

I think I ran Torture Test - Blend before
 
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That'll be throttling back at 98 deg C. You need a different cooling solution. Look at the red LOG word under the ones that hit 98 deg.

On another note, have you auto overclocked by any chance? The BCLK of 103.2 looks suspicious. Neil had problems with BCLK set at anything other than 100MHz as this is used to generate the clocking for ALL the board. I'd drop into the BIOS next time you boot and set BCLK to 100MHz. The way to overclock an unlocked Sansy Bridge is up the maximum multiplier allowed. Mine is set to 43 (so I max out at 4.3GHz).

The best test to run is the first one - Small FFTs. Everything runs on chip with that so maxes out the processor.
 
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Yes I have auto overclocked it earlier today just out of interest.
I have now changed the BCLK to 100MHz.

I'll run the first test and post up the results :)

Can this testing be doing any damage? Due to extreme heat.
Just ran it briefly and it reached high temps and a HOT status.



Looks like I may have to water cool! :woot:
 
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98c... Nice... :lol:

I ordered the akasa venom for my build but wouldnt fit in my m-atx case. It's huge and pretty good aparently. There's a pic in my build log on here.

Regarding the overclock, 100x 43/44 is but a few bios changes away :) there isn't any real need for water cooling on that sort of clock though. Hell I run a basic 20 quid low profile cooler and like I say maxes out at 70c or so of 4 or 5 hours at 100% load.
 
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neil_g said:
98c... Nice... :lol:

I ordered the akasa venom for my build but wouldnt fit in my m-atx case. It's huge and pretty good aparently. There's a pic in my build log on here.

Regarding the overclock, 100x 43/44 is but a few bios changes away :) there isn't any real need for water cooling on that sort of clock though. Hell I run a basic 20 quid low profile cooler and like I say maxes out at 70c or so of 4 or 5 hours at 100% load.
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Bit high hey :'( Lol

'Regarding the overclock, 100x 43/44 is but a few bios changes away'
What do you mean? Have I not done this already by changing the BCLK to 100mhz?

What is the highest overclock I can do easily, whilst remaining comfortably stable? (any tips/how to's?) :p

Think I'm set on the idea of water lol. Just been spec'ing up the parts again.
 
Ben: said:
Bit high hey :'( Lol

'Regarding the overclock, 100x 43/44 is but a few bios changes away'
What do you mean? Have I not done this already by changing the BCLK to 100mhz?

What is the highest overclock I can do easily, whilst remaining comfortably stable? (any tips/how to's?) :p

Think I'm set on the idea of water lol. Just been spec'ing up the parts again.
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Id bin off the ai tool, i found it adjusted the bclk a few times back over 100 automatically. Would be better to set it static in the bios.

100x44 is about as high as you want to go without over volting. With volting 5000 is achievable with a good chip, but I've read it'll dramatically reduce life.

Seriously unless you're looking at clocking into the 5000mhz, water would be a waste of money.
 
Just realized I hadn't changed the CPU ratio. So I've just set that to 44 :)

Hmm seems there's just 2 sides for/against water. Just personal preference it seems.
It's a fact that water is a better conductor of heat but whether it's 'necessary' or not is issue lol
 
Mines has been absolutely fine on Fast using AI.

BCLK is 103.2 and has given zero problems so far.

Water is for washing with!
 
Mikesphotaes said:
Mines has been absolutely fine on Fast using AI.

BCLK is 103.2 and has given zero problems so far.

Water is for washing with!
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Yeah I don't understand all the technical bits so not sure what the problem with it being 103.2 is :/

Haha and cooling!! :p
 
Ben: said:
Just realized I hadn't changed the CPU ratio. So I've just set that to 44 :)

Hmm seems there's just 2 sides for/against water. Just personal preference it seems.
It's a fact that water is a better conductor of heat but whether it's 'necessary' or not is issue lol
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Just to clarify I'm not against water, if there is a case for it after going beyond the capability of air. With the quality of good silent fans these days for me that'd take a large overclock to warrant. Otherwise it's just e-penis points.. ;)
 
Ben: said:
Yeah I don't understand all the technical bits so not sure what the problem with it being 103.2 is :/
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The problem is EVERYTHING is driven off BCLK. CPU multiplier is driven off it, as is the DRAM. A BCLK of 103.2MHz will give a 3.2% performance increase but COULD make the RAM (or something else in the system) unstable. Moving just the CPU multiplier to 43 takes you from 3.5GHz turbo'd to 4.3GHz turbo'd. Note Intels claim of 3.8GHz turbo'd is if only ONE processor is active and in order for this to happen the other processors need to be in a power down state which just doesn't happen with Windoze/Linux. 3.5GHz -> 4.3GHz is a 25% speed increase. Of course, you could always combine the 3% BCLK and 25% to give ~4.4GHz but then you could make something else unstable. You could always just set the multiplier to 44 and have the same effect too...

HTH...
 
neil_g said:
Just to clarify I'm not against water, if there is a case for it after going beyond the capability of air. With the quality of good silent fans these days for me that'd take a large overclock to warrant. Otherwise it's just e-penis points.. ;)
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:lol: Well it does look good!
With silent fans and water it'd get super low temps! Haha.
Ahh such a tough decision lol, very tempted by water though.

neil_g said:
The 100 bclk is for stability/compatibility with chipsets and memory
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100 it is then :)

arad85 said:
The problem is EVERYTHING is driven off BCLK. CPU multiplier is driven off it, as is the DRAM. A BCLK of 103.2MHz will give a 3.2% performance increase but COULD make the RAM (or something else in the system) unstable. Moving just the CPU multiplier to 43 takes you from 3.5GHz turbo'd to 4.3GHz turbo'd. Note Intels claim of 3.8GHz turbo'd is if only ONE processor is active and in order for this to happen the other processors need to be in a power down state which just doesn't happen with Windoze/Linux. 3.5GHz -> 4.3GHz is a 25% speed increase. Of course, you could always combine the 3% BCLK and 25% to give ~4.4GHz but then you could make something else unstable. You could always just set the multiplier to 44 and have the same effect too...

HTH...
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Well that all makes perfect sense :)
25% increase is very reasonable! I've changed the ratio to 43 instead of 44 now.
Thanks for the great info!
 
Ben: said:
I've changed the ratio to 43 instead of 44 now.
Thanks for the great info!
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Hey... if 44 or 45 or even higher works for you then go for it :) Especially if you water cool you might be able to get closer to 50...
 
arad85 said:
Hey... if 44 or 45 or even higher works for you then go for it :) Especially if you water cool you might be able to get closer to 50...
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In general how do people get high STABLE overclocks?
I don't want to put anything at risk but would like to get the most out of my new machine. If I water cooled, temps 'shouldn't' be an issue. But is there much required in the way of changing BIOS settings etc?
 
neil_g said:
generally you increase the multiplier until it becomes unstable then increase the voltage slightly and repeat.

guides - http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/forumdisplay.php?f=7
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Great thanks I'll have a read :)

Just came home, turned on PC, went to play BF3 and it says its uninstalled!!!!
No where to be seen :suspect:
There is no way I want to spend 3 days downloading it again!

I did some windows updates eariler, changed the BIOS a little, restarted, 'BOOTMGR is missing'. Reset BIOS to default, worked fine.

Can anyone shed some light as to why BF3 would have disappeared!?? And more importantly, can I get it back somehow without downloading again?
Could it be hiding somewhere?
 
neil_g said:
is it not in your program files?

also before i forget, you set the SSD back to AHCI didnt you?
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No :\
And yes :)

Maybe its something to do with this whole SSD and HDD thing... Because my program files are on the ssd, everything else seems to be on the HDD. Maybe something's got mixed up and messed up the game location.

I cant restore as no restore points have been made. I guess I should have put it on a disk/stick with an image so I could boot the game from there as a back up.

Confused!
Ahhhhhh :bang:
 
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If you can remember part of the file name search the computer for it and check the recycle bin. Maybe change the explorer options to show hidden files too while you are searching.
 
RobertP said:
If you can remember part of the file name search the computer for it and check the recycle bin. Maybe change the explorer options to show hidden files too while you are searching.
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Not in the Recycle Bin.

Here's what the search found...



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you didnt install them to a folder that was on the SSD which you then moved as part of the whole user folders process?

looks like BF3 is now on your D: drive for some reason? is that where you installed it to?
 
neil_g said:
you didnt install them to a folder that was on the SSD which you then moved as part of the whole user folders process?

looks like BF3 is now on your D: drive for some reason? is that where you installed it to?
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I'm very certain I installed it on the SSD C: Drive. Because I thought I could be accessed/played quicker (not sure if that would be true though)

So would it be possible to somehow move it all to 1 place and it work? :s
 
I knew there was a good reason I never did any of this reassigning users locations stuff :)

Good luck with sorting it out. Do any of those found locations have the downloaded install file in them?
 
RobertP said:
I knew there was a good reason I never did any of this reassigning users locations stuff :)

Good luck with sorting it out. Do any of those found locations have the downloaded install file in them?
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Would the file be the very large one containing all the data? If so, no :(

There's the 'Application' file (32mb) everything else is tiny.



If I got someone else with super fast internet to download the game on their PC, could I somehow put it on a disk/stick, add an image, and make it bootable/installable on my PC?
 
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Now I keep having issues with 'BOOTMGR is missing' grr!
 
have you changed drives ? added new one ?
it happens with win7 when you move drives around, or maybe you formatted one partition and made it active ? (ive made this recently ;) had to repair w7 from cd
 
bastic said:
have you changed drives ? added new one ?
it happens with win7 when you move drives around, or maybe you formatted one partition and made it active ? (ive made this recently ;) had to repair w7 from cd
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I followed the tutorial in the link on the other page.
Haven't added a drive, just tried to move all the documents/pictures onto a hdd.
And just have the OS and Applications on the SSD.


arad85 said:
I think you've moved more than you think.....
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:( Hope I haven't.
 
The finished article...


Want to sleeve the MB and graphic card power cables to tidy them up a bit.
And not overly happy about the 'look' of all the cables at the bottom of the case, but not a lot I can do is there? :thinking:
 
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Ben: said:
And not overly happy about the 'look' of all the cables at the bottom of the case, but not a lot I can do is there? :thinking:
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Could of used a modular power supply, no redundant cables that way
 
Keith W said:
Could of used a modular power supply, no redundant cables that way
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Yeah I know, I ordered it thinking that it was one, sadly not though :(
All the ones going through the grommet are used. Just a couple of PCI-E unused.
Looks a bit messy near the grommet though
 
The full set up :banana:
Linked the TV as a 2nd monitor for movies and maybe games.
Connected the PC to my surround sound.

 
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