New Nikon D5000 & AF-S DX NIKKOR 10-24mm Released

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Nikon have released 2 new products a New Body & Lens

Nikon D5000 http://www.nikon.com/about/news/2009/0414_d5000_01.htm

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AF-S DX NIKKOR 10-24mm f/3.5-4.5G ED http://www.nikon.com/about/news/2009/0414_nikkor_02.htm

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Dont think I'll be selling my D3 & 27-70 just yet :D

Looks like a good entry level Camera & Nikon have a Lens that will go head to head with the Sigma 10-20mm & the Tamron 10-24mm which are both very good.
 
looks good but the rotating screen does nothing for me , looks a bit gimmicky , I'm sure its not though ! its just my opinion
 
You've got to wonder where Nikon is getting its lens strategy from. There are so many glaring deficiencies in their range, and they only have the capacity to release a handful of new designs each year ... so how on earth did this make it to the top of their priority list? Was the lack of a 10mm offering really hurting them so much?
 
mrgas said:
looks good but the rotating screen does nothing for me , looks a bit gimmicky , I'm sure its not though ! its just my opinion
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I love the idea of a rotating screen - works brilliantly on the old Coolpix.

But @£800 for the body with the 18-55VR sadly doesn't really make it a D40 replacement!
 
Somewhere in a cabinet is the perfect DSLR , no noise at 10,000 ISO, 25FPS at 30,000 MP, same size as a D3 but weighs 1kg

every 6 months they take a slight step towards a camera they have up and running to make the market spend more money, a bit like skynet building a computer using the terminators arm locked away in a cabinet :D
 
wack61 said:
Somewhere in a cabinet is the perfect DSLR , no noise at 10,000 ISO, 25FPS at 30,000 MP, same size as a D3 but weighs 1kg

every 6 months they take a slight step towards a camera they have up and running to make the market spend more money, a bit like skynet building a computer using the terminators arm locked away in a cabinet :D
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:lol::lol::lol:

Chris :)
 
I expect the quality will be really good, but I get the feeling that it is another go at marketing a camera that can be all things to all people.

Certainly not what I want in a DSLR.
Don't care for video, moveable screens or even scene modes in DSLR's.

Others may like though.
 
I guess those that baulk at the potential benefit of the rotating screen have never used a TLR or Nikon F with waist-level finder.....

But I'm waiting out for a 'D4000' - no pointless video and £300 less..... :D
 
Solely from retail perspective, a great camera to rival the Alpha 350 which is selling very well for Sony.
 
£800 is a strange price to come in at. You can buy so many other cameras for that.
D40, D90, D200 - is it really better than these?
 
SEPkent said:
£800 is a strange price to come in at. You can buy so many other cameras for that.
D40, D90, D200 - is it really better than these?
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What relevance is that? The D200 is out of production. The D40 is considerably lower specification. Do you think the D90 has just been usurped?
 
Radiohead said:
Jesus, another fricking DX zoom to replace a perfectly good one.
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My thoughts exactly, and if they had to release another ultra wide lens why couldn't they make it FF :shrug:
 
£800 :thinking: the RRP on the D300 is now £1600 or thereabouts, so the street price will probably be nearer that of the comparable Canon and Sony cameras. The lens makes perfect sense to me, if you look at all the 10-20s that Sigma sell.....;)
 
I'd like a flip out screen on my D700. I rarely use the live view mode but on the odd occasion I do use it, it would be handy if I could flip it out. I've seen some "screens on a cable" such as this http://www.zigview.co.uk/prd7331ziglive.htm but I wouldn't use it enough to justify 150 quid. The nikon angle viewfinder would do what occasionally need to do but it costs even more than that LCD screen!
 
boyfalldown said:
not to me, theres a DX 12-24 already in Nikon's line up to compete with the Sigma
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Ask yourself why you might buy a Sigma over that Nikkor?

If you are a manufacturer losing lots of sales to a competitor you might think that you need to have a product to get them back.

I'd imagine that this new lens will be cheaper for Nikon to manufacture, will sell for less than the 12-24, is lighter and/or will perform measurably 'better' than the Sigma. (If it costs more, is heavier, has obvious distortion and fall off then Nikon will end up looking stupid!)
 
WHE are taking pre-orders for £719 body only, but with free 8gb card and a bag. £799 as above with an 18-55mm lens.
 
Voyager said:
Ask yourself why you might buy a Sigma over that Nikkor?

If you are a manufacturer losing lots of sales to a competitor you might think that you need to have a product to get them back.

I'd imagine that this new lens will be cheaper for Nikon to manufacture, will sell for less than the 12-24, is lighter and/or will perform measurably 'better' than the Sigma. (If it costs more, is heavier, has obvious distortion and fall off then Nikon will end up looking stupid!)
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its RRP is £799 vs £899 for the 12-24. The sigma retails at about £369 (CBP) and the nikon 12-24 £699 (CPB again). I imagine this means the nerw nikkor will retail at around £599 - so not a massive price drop. Obviously I can't comment on performance

You're right in alot of your post - I just don't see why Nikon though this lens was the highest priority to replace or we needed another DX ultra wide. I don't believe UWA accouhnt for lots of sales percentage
 
its priced and specced very close to the D90 - wierd IMHO
 
I dont see why they have released this camera is it not the same as a d90 with a useless swivel screen??

Offers the same spec as the d90 does it not?????
 
Philx1979 said:
I dont see why they have released this camera is it not the same as a d90 with a useless swivel screen??

Offers the same spec as the d90 does it not?????
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not sure - at first glance it looks closer to the D60 or D40. First impressions only

Hugh
 
cant find any reference to built in focus motor, but spec wise its so similar to the D90 I think its a strange release, when the gap in Nikons range is between the D60 and D90. Maybe at street prices it will fall into that category? Either way it will definately take sales from the D90.........
 
Dave Pickett said:
cant find any reference to built in focus motor,
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I don't think there is one. Looking at the photo on Nikon's website there's no pin from the body to drive the AF. Niether do the specs list not AF-S lens as focussing, they do for the D90

Hugh
 
I just don't get Nikon's naming convention at all. So they have made this D5000 that sits between the D60 and the D90. Well that makes sense!


D60->D5000->D90->D300->D3 :thinking:
 
You'll also notice no top lcd screen, which suggests (to me at least) that it's D40/D60 in size.

I seem to remember reading somewhere that Nikon were going to be phasing out the in-body AF motors for the entire range over the next few years and gradually upgrading all the lenses to AF-S. The new 50mm and 35mm lenses would seem to bear that out, but on the other hand..... :shrug:

Messiah Khan said:
I just don't get Nikon's naming convention at all. So they have made this D5000 that sits between the D60 and the D90. Well that makes sense!


D60->D5000->D90->D300->D3 :thinking:
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Well, the couldn't call it the D50, or the D70.....
 
Messiah Khan said:
I just don't get Nikon's naming convention at all. So they have made this D5000 that sits between the D60 and the D90. Well that makes sense!


D60->D5000->D90->D300->D3 :thinking:
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Nikon's naming convention has always seemed wrong to me. Lower range DXX, mid range DXXX and Pro models DX. Canon do it as you would expect lower, XXXD, mid XXD and Pro XD. Canon have also give themselves some naming breathing room by going 300>350>400>450>500. Nikon haven't done that. After the D90, what would be next logically? D100? That's already been done. I'm sure they have marketing analyst to help choose names, but they don't seem to look to far ahead imho. Especially as the speed of DSLR releases are becoming more frequent.

Sony's naming could also get into problems pretty quickly as their naming convention has chosen a three digit naming style irrespective of the level their cameras are aimed at.


As for the D5000, it looks very small, and it would be interesting to feel how small it is. You can got too small, and not be comfortable, though Nikon have done pretty well in that respect in the past.

I think Nikon wanted to keep the button layout consistent through their range, so a hinge on the bottom was the only way to let them do it.:shrug:

The LCD screen while a benefit for seeing images from different positions in Liveview, is a step back from the 900,000+ dot screens of recent cameras, and if you are going to be using the screen more, especially for focus, a higher resolution would be a lot better.
 
mastertrinity said:
i expected it to b a d300/700 replacement
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why? - the d300 may be getting due for an upgrade - but the D700 is less than a year old, theres alot of speculation they may add a d700x at some point but not replace it
 
I'm a bit confused. Looks like this will retail at a very similar price to the D90 (its more on pre-order at WHE). But has the small, D40/60 size body, no top screen, no internal motor, and no CLS commander mode as far as I can see. It also has the limited control options of the D40/60 with fewer dedicated buttons.

Why would someone buy this over the D90?
 
boyfalldown said:
why? - the d300 may be getting due for an upgrade - but the D700 is less than a year old, theres alot of speculation they may add a d700x at some point but not replace it
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i didnt specifically mean replacement for d700 it was the d300 that i thought of replacing but i was thinking of something near the d700 standards but not a direct replacement, a bit like the 500d is not a specific replacement for the 450D but rather an addition.
 
mastertrinity said:
i didnt specifically mean replacement for d700 it was the d300 that i thought of replacing but i was thinking of something near the d700 standards but not a direct replacement, a bit like the 500d is not a specific replacement for the 450D but rather an addition.
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errrr you did say d300/700 replacement. I'm interested as to where you see a market between the d300 & the d700

hugh
 
AlexW said:
Why would someone buy this over the D90?
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Thinking aloud here - perhaps the whole model range will be re-positioned and this is the first one and will 'replace' it?

Next could be to drop the D40/60/90 range entirely and do a lower spec 1/2/3 or 4000 models. That gives the option of making more incremental upgrades - x100 then x200's for at least 9 bodies - more if they use the '10s' too! (I'd pick 'D2000' as the 'base spec' body giving at least 29 more bodies before they meet with a D5000 again!)
 
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