New Canon 1D mkIV to be announced soon? - *NOW OUT*

full frame would be a step backwards for me :( Nah, can't be :)
 
dont want or need full frame.. think thats probably a red herring..

high iso and a couple of extra MP to allow more cropping will do me :)
 
What kind of price will this drive the Mk III's down to :thinking: I suppose it all depends on what price point the new model comes in at..........which I imagine will determine how many of you move to the MkIV or MkV

Woow things are going to be in a state of flux for a while
 
Mr THX said:
What kind of price will this drive the Mk III's down to :thinking:
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there around 1600 to 2k used now.. I would probably put my least used mkIII up for 1500 when I ahve to pay for the next one...I would sell the least used to have more chance of getting a sale.. the most used still has a couple of yrs actuations in it then its just a shutter replace to be new again :)
 
it looks nice :) specially AF :D
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I wonder why they didn't go for 18mp like the 7D? Makes you think the 7D is over-spec'd
 
Brachytron said:
I wonder why they didn't go for 18mp like the 7D? Makes you think the 7D is over-spec'd
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Because they wanted to have ISO 102,400.

Actually, I was a bit worried that getting the 7D may have been a mistake and that I should have waited. It looks like I had no need to worry. Not had a chance to go through specs in detail yet though.
 
If they could make a crop sensor to do that...next FF camera will be out of this world.
 
Looks like a great camera but its such a price hike over the 1DIII. Makes them look good value! I know it will drop but it's about 40% higher than the prelaunch price of the 1DIII
 
Is the US RRP $5200?

That's £3,184.03 at today's rates, and we get stiffed for £4450?

To the US chaps, you'd be paying $7,268.81if it was the other way round.
 
£4500?! That's more than I paid for my 1dsmk3, and with the D3 priced around £2800 looks like Canon have overpriced some what. Yes a couple of years ago you could have charged a premium but if they want to win back some of the defectors then they will have to compete on price.
Is there really £2000 more camera than the Mk3 or £2700 more than the 5d?:thinking:
 
Radiohead said:
Is the US RRP $5200?

That's £3,184.03 at today's rates, and we get stiffed for £4450?

To the US chaps, you'd be paying $7,268.81if it was the other way round.
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Nope it's $4999! A little less than £3100 :( Which is quite attractive really - until you add in the flights to go and collect it ;)

I wonder if any of the yanks on RAF Mildenhall can order one over for me? :thinking:
 
Nice sweetener though, they're bundling it with a CF card and bag. :gag:

You'd have thought they'd realise that the target market might just have that sort of accessory already :thinking:
 
Fairly underwhelmed by the press release. Why is it missing several nice features from the 7d. Hopefully the 1ds MKIV is round the corner with a few more toys :(
 
1DsIV should be (based on history) 6-12 months behind. Same features but higher resolution and full frame. Looks like that will be £7k at launch.

Remember that the comparison with the US should also take into account VAT, so the difference is only about £900 (!!) but that will drop as the model matures.
 
grumpybadger said:
1DsIV should be (based on history) 6-12 months behind. Same features but higher resolution and full frame. Looks like that will be £7k at launch.

Remember that the comparison with the US should also take into account VAT, so the difference is only about £900 (!!) but that will drop as the model matures.
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Lets hope it's 6, not 12. I think it's a real tell that a used d3 will still cost you £2100+ but a used 1d MK3 is coming down to around £1500 as to which brand is more desirable at the moment.

On the plus side, it means i can finally afford a 1d mk3 ;)
 
Think I'll wait for the Mk V, anyone got a release date yet? I'm hearing 18MP, 75 focus points, tea making facilities and they've dropped the video :p
 
jon- said:
Lets hope it's 6, not 12. I think it's a real tell that a used d3 will still cost you £2100+ but a used 1d MK3 is coming down to around £1500 as to which brand is more desirable at the moment.

On the plus side, it means i can finally afford a 1d mk3 ;)
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I think that's what really highlights my problem with buying the pro bodies new. The rate of depreciation on high end cameras is now as much as cars (if not more).

I bought a 1DsII last week off here for £1000. It offers 17Mbpx, weatherproofing and 45 point AF - same as the 1DIV. Therefore, the question for me is whether the better ISO performance (speculation until proven) and video is worth the extra £3000 (once pricing has settled a bit). For me, I think the clear answer is no.

I actually think even for a working pro, it's pretty tough. Assume they are using a 1DIII as a workhorse at the moment and they face a cost to upgrade of £3000 (as once the 1DIV prices soften, the used 1DIII prices will follow suit). Does a stop more usable ISO (my estimate but I have to say from the physics, getting much over a stop improvement in signal to noise ratio seems tough) and 60% more pixels yield an improvement in sales revenue of £1000 per year?
 
Brachytron said:
I wonder why they didn't go for 18mp like the 7D? Makes you think the 7D is over-spec'd
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I'm not convinced its a sensor argument but a getting data off the sensor. It uses the same Dual-Digic4 as the 7D which can deliver 8fps at 18Mpx (144Mpx/s) 16Mpx at 10fps is 160Mpx/s and it is my guess that this is towards the top of the range.

The 50D uses Digic4 and delivers 6.3fps @ 15 Mpx but I would be surprised if the amount of data off the 1D sensor is a bit higher due to increased sensitivity.
 
nice camera - too much dosh for what little (imo) improvement over the 1d3 though
 
Bloody Hell - £4.5K!

No wireless flash? :thinking:

I'm off to cuddle my 7D. ;)
 
I see Dig Rev have them in stock. £4534 in VAT. Mind you at that price you could buy a 1DsMk111 here in the UK.
 
buckas said:
nice camera - too much dosh for what little (imo) improvement over the 1d3 though
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To be fair,the bulk of the improvement is going to be in the AF system which I'm sure will be the dogs dangly bits, and let's face it, Canon needed to redesign the system completely in the face of the bad pess they've had. They really can't afford to get it wrong, and based on what I've seen of the similar system in the 7D, it's not going to disappoint.

For wildlife togs interested in the crop factor, what this 16 mega pixels means is that it will be slightly better in the crop advantage compared to previous comtemporary XXD models, but the 50D will still be better, while the 7D, will be loads better.

It's not for me, although I can see the attraction for those that really need what it offers, but even allowing for prices settling down after release, it's goiing to be well over £1K more than it's predecessors.
 
I'll be looking out for Andy Rouse jumping over to the 50D/7D with great enthusiasm ;)

The ISO performance is the main attraction to the upgrade for myself and my increasing amounts of sports work. Worth £1k extra over the MKIII? That'll require some thinking and shopping around of sorts! Coming from a 1DII though, it will seemingly be another world!

I would be interested to hear about why the was the lack of inclusion of the wireless flash (although I have PWs so not too fussed), electronic level thingy and so on that made it in the 7D.
 
purpleclouds said:
I'll be looking out for Andy Rouse jumping over to the 50D/7D with great enthusiasm ;)
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I'd laugh me socks off if he did. :lol:
The ISO performance is the main attraction to the upgrade for myself and my increasing amounts of sports work. Worth £1k extra over the MKIII? That'll require some thinking and shopping around of sorts! Coming from a 1DII though, it will seemingly be another world!
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Well as Paul (grumpy badger)said, he's just bought a 1DSMK2 for £1K which is absolutely crazy considering it was a £6K camera, and these high end cameras didn't suddenly become obsolete. At the rate new models are coming out now, the depreciation is a serious hit for most users.

I would be interested to hear about why the was the lack of inclusion of the wireless flash (although I have PWs so not too fussed), electronic level thingy and so on that made it in the 7D.
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That's really surprised me. No leveling device either, which is actually really useful on a tripod. I know it's not a completely redisgned camera from the ground up like the 7D, but I'd have thought for that much wonga they'd have made sure it has those features from a cheaper model.
 
CT said:
I'd laugh me socks off if he did. :lol:

Well as Paul (grumpy badger)said, he's just bought a 1DSMK2 for £1K which is absolutely crazy considering it was a £6K camera, and these high end cameras didn't suddenly become obsolete. At the rate new models are coming out now, the depreciation is a serious hit for most users.

That's really surprised me. No leveling device either, which is actually really useful on a tripod. I know it's not a completely redisgned camera from the ground up like the 7D, but I'd have thought for that much wonga they'd have made sure it has those features from a cheaper model.
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I think I'd cry :lol:

Yes I guess so.. if it weren't so costly then a 1D II upgrade to a IV would be a no brainer for myself... but £4500?! :bang: £3000 - £3500 would have been much more acceptable... and there we have the US price!!

... I could on the other hand pick up 2x 1D IIIs for less than that... :thinking:
 
think i'll be sticking to MKIII's until the MKIV comes down to a more sensible price, and at £4.5k i can't see them winning any former customers back from Nikon. If anything at the reported price i can see more people ditching Canon. The improved AF and high ISO is going to need to be a world apart from the MKIII
 
Well, I think, as Cedric has said, that this makes the 7D a good buy particularly as the price is coming down and will shortly be around £1250 I suspect.
The other thing that strikes me, though, is that we now have the 5D2 with what is an outmoded AF system, a factor which surprised me when it was released. I suppose that Canon didn't have it sorted then, but how long till a 5D with improved AF comes out???
Not long, I suspect, say around the 1Ds4 release date?
George
 
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