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Canon has announced an upcoming firmware update, 7D Firmware Version 2, for the 18 Megapixel EOS 7D that includes a raft of new features to further enhance the capabilities of Canon’s flagship APS-C format DSLR.

The new EOS 7D Firmware Version 2 update will enhance the camera with the following additional features:

IMPROVED RAW MAXIMUM BURST In the EOS 7D the maximum burst of RAW file frames was 15 – with the firmware update this will be significantly increased so that the camera’s buffer will handle up to 26 RAW frames in a continuous burst.

IN-CAMERA RAW CONVERSION The EOS 7D will allow for in-camera post-processing of images. RAW images can be edited in-camera and options can be changed before saving the finished file as a ready-to-print JPEG or for sending wirelessly. This function can be used with full resolution RAW files, but not with M-RAW or S-RAW files.

The settings for in-camera RAW processing include White balance, Picture Style, High ISO speed noise reduction, Colour Space, and lens data corrections (Peripheral Illumination Correction, distortion correction and Chromatic Aberration Correction).

IMAGE RATING CAPABILITIES Like other Canon EOS DSLRs, such as the EOS 60D, EOS-1D X and EOS 5D Mark III, the EOS 7D will be able to rate images from 1 to 5 stars in-camera for quicker and easier sorting of images within your workflow. The ratings can be used to sort images in applications such as Adobe Elements, Adobe Bridge and Apple Aperture. The ratings are XMP compliant and Canon’s Digital Photo Professional software has been updated to reflect this.

AUTO ISO MAXIMUM SETTING Within the EOS 7D’s shooting menu photographers will have the ability to set a maximum ISO speed for ISO Auto, within the ISO range of 400-6400, so that you can minimise the amount of noise in your images.

MANUAL ADJUSTMENT FOR AUDIO RECORDING LEVELS During EOS Movie shooting you will be able to manually adjust the audio recording levels to one of 64 levels, whilst the sound volume during playback can be set to one of 11 levels. During movie recording noise from the aperture is reduced and the camera also has an automatic wind cut filter.

JPEG RESIZING Within the camera’s image-recording menu with all JPEG images you will be able to resize the image (for image downsizing) and save it as a new image. Note that the aspect ratio cannot be changed.

SUPPORT FOR THE GP-E2 GPS UNIT The GP-E2 unit arrived with the EOS 5D Mark III and this firmware update will enable the GPS unit to be used with the EOS 7D, via a cable connection, so that photographers can geo-tag images with latitude and longitude data in the EXIF fields.

QUICK CONTROL DURING PLAYBACK With the Quick Control (Q) button pressed during image playback photographers will be able to select options for protect images, rotate images, rate images, resize images, highlight alert, AF point display and image jump.

FILE NAME SETTING In the EOS 7D’s camera settings menu in user setting 1 the first four characters of the file name can be adjusted, whilst in user setting 2 the first three characters of the file name can be adjusted and the fourth will be set automatically according to the recording quality.

TIME ZONE SETTING Within the EOS 7D’s camera settings menu you will be able to set the time zone, plus daylight saving time can also be set.

FASTER SCROLLING OF MAGNIFIED IMAGES The screen scrolling speed will be faster for scrolling through images when they are enlarged. The ease of use is improved when using the camera to zoom in and check focus.

Source - http://www.canonrumors.com/forum/index.php?topic=7186.0
 
If this is confirmed I can't see a 7D mkII coming anytime soon, very extensive firmware upgrade and some good stuff in there
 
Shame it will do naff all for the higher ISO noise performance. It's the one thing that actually needs sorting out (probably by the release of a new camera with a new, improved sensor).
 
This 7D high ISO noise thing is very strange, some people seem to get it at relatively low ISO's. Others like myself don't seem to be plagued by it unless using ISO's you would expect it from

When do you start noticing it Jim?
 
tijuana taxi said:
This 7D high ISO noise thing is very strange, some people seem to get it at relatively low ISO's. Others like myself don't seem to be plagued by it unless using ISO's you would expect it from

When do you start noticing it Jim?
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At noticeable levels, around 800iso in well exposed pictures. That pp can cope with. When I get to 3200 then I can't get rid of it. Still, it's better than my 40d at 1600. I personally like a crop camera as it is a real boon in lowish budget, short on time wildlife photography. If that wasn't what I enjoy the most I would have gone ff or Nikon/Sony/Pentax some time ago as they have a real handle on noise with the Sony sensors. Unfortunately the 7d is just the best camera for my needs in every other way!
 
menthel said:
At noticeable levels, around 800iso in well exposed pictures. That pp can cope with. When I get to 3200 then I can't get rid of it. Still, it's better than my 40d at 1600. I personally like a crop camera as it is a real boon in lowish budget, short on time wildlife photography. If that wasn't what I enjoy the most I would have gone ff or Nikon/Sony/Pentax some time ago as they have a real handle on noise with the Sony sensors. Unfortunately the 7d is just the best camera for my needs in every other way!
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The noise above ISO800 is one of the main reasons (the other being inbody SR) I haven't sold my 50D, bought a 7D and moved over completely from my Pentax K-5.

Had Canon put in a sensor to compete with Sony's then I really think the 7D would have cleaned up in the crop market.
 
Mike.P said:
The noise above ISO800 is one of the main reasons (the other being inbody SR) I haven't sold my 50D, bought a 7D and moved over completely from my Pentax K-5.

Had Canon put in a sensor to compete with Sony's then I really think the 7D would have cleaned up in the crop market.
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Agreed. It's the perfect camera for me, except for that one big flaw.
 
I like the sound of this a lot :) some very good features on there. I do wish it had them in the first place but better late than never!
 
If those updates come through it will vastly improve the 7D. I've never used Auto ISO as there is currently no function to limit the max setting as on the Nikon's, if the update is correct then thats another function on the 7D that I will use. The increase in the number of frames you can shoot on RAW will be fantastic too. Hope it is out soon.
 
I'd welcome the Auto ISO limit, something that should have been there from day one.

Now if only they could add a firmware upgrade to make the LCD a vari-angled one like in the 60D and reduce the sensor noise a tad then I think it would be an almost perfect camera (for me).
 
A good lot of improvements in there which will make the 7D a more attractive buy second hand (now that there's lots about), the Auto ISO and RAW burst would of been enough to make it worthwhile. I hope when they bring out a major revamp for the 5D3 there's a few goodies in it. The only one I really want for the 5D3 is the illumination of the focal point when focussing.
 
menthel said:
Shame it will do naff all for the higher ISO noise performance. It's the one thing that actually needs sorting out (probably by the release of a new camera with a new, improved sensor).
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If there is a genuine issue with high ISO noise (I personnally don't have a problem, although I only really use 1600+ in bright light to get a high shutter speed with small aperture), then Canon may include this under the radar - I am sure I read in several forums that after the first firmware update several years ago, many users reported an improvement in noise even though Canon didn't list this as an improvement (presumably they didn't want to admit a problem).
 
Brachytron said:
If there is a genuine issue with high ISO noise (I personnally don't have a problem, although I only really use 1600+ in bright light to get a high shutter speed with small aperture), then Canon may include this under the radar - I am sure I read in several forums that after the first firmware update several years ago, many users reported an improvement in noise even though Canon didn't list this as an improvement (presumably they didn't want to admit a problem).
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That would be nice! I use high iso setting because every time I go out with the camera the clouds descend and make the light all crappy. I'd the weather gods didn't hate me I probably wouldn't have noticed as much!
 
Nice that Canon still supports and provides worthwhile updates for a camera that is almost 3 years old. The fact that the 7D is still "top of the crops" shows just how good it was back in 2009.

Never noticed any high-ISO issues with my launch 7D, but I rarely shoot above 800 ISO. 1600 is about as high as I push mine in an emergency.
 
tijuana taxi said:
This 7D high ISO noise thing is very strange, some people seem to get it at relatively low ISO's. Others like myself don't seem to be plagued by it unless using ISO's you would expect it from

When do you start noticing it Jim?
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i think people complaining about poor noise are people who are not that experience with PPing.

i know a guy called TeamSpeed off another forum who has got nice CLEAN 12800 ISO shots in a fast moving subject inside a poorly light basketball indoor court and got impressive results with just a simple pping.

I too have used same technique on my 400d and i am able to get clean usable shots at 3200 ISO on a very very OLD rebel camera.

So as i said before, i completely dismiss anyone that says 7d has terrible noise levels at the high ISO and i also dismiss people who say 7d is terrible in IQ and DR too.

too much pixel peeping IMO.

the 7d is a cracking camera
 
jonneymendoza said:
i think people complaining about poor noise are people who are not that experience with PPing.

i know a guy called TeamSpeed off another forum who has got nice CLEAN 12800 ISO shots in a fast moving subject inside a poorly light basketball indoor court and got impressive results with just a simple pping.

I too have used same technique on my 400d and i am able to get clean usable shots at 3200 ISO on a very very OLD rebel camera.

So as i said before, i completely dismiss anyone that says 7d has terrible noise levels at the high ISO and i also dismiss people who say 7d is terrible in IQ and DR too.

too much pixel peeping IMO.

the 7d is a cracking camera
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Thanks for the concise input and character assassination. Many people have problems with the 7d in higher ISO noise (and to a lesser extent DR- although I have never really complained about this). The older sensor in this camera has been left behind by the newer crop sensors (mainly sony I hasten to add) and noise was noticable even from the start- its simply there. Yes, it can be dealt with but that is a destructive process as far as IQ goes.

Don't get me wrong, I love my 7D for so many reasons but it does have its faults. And I am no pixel peeper, as should be clear from my posting history.

Ps, if you have a good noise reduction technique, please DO share it as I would love to have less noise in my shots at higher ISOs.

Pps, you can quite often tell a shot from a 7D specifically from the noise pattern, especially in green backgrounds on wildlife shots. Its there and some might say a signature of the 7D. :)
 
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menthel said:
Thanks for the concise input and character assassination. Many people have problems with the 7d in higher ISO noise (and to a lesser extent DR- although I have never really complained about this). The older sensor in this camera has been left behind by the newer crop sensors (mainly sony I hasten to add) and noise was noticable even from the start- its simply there. Yes, it can be dealt with but that is a destructive process as far as IQ goes.

Don't get me wrong, I love my 7D for so many reasons but it does have its faults. And I am no pixel peeper, as should be clear from my posting history.

Ps, if you have a good noise reduction technique, please DO share it as I would love to have less noise in my shots at higher ISOs.

Pps, you can quite often tell a shot from a 7D specifically from the noise pattern, especially in green backgrounds on wildlife shots. Its there and some might say a signature of the 7D. :)
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am i allowed to post stuff from another tog forum? if so i am happy to share the techniques used by Teamspeed.

its simple really. u just ETTR and do your PP magic . will post more details later
 
jonneymendoza said:
am i allowed to post stuff from another tog forum? if so i am happy to share the techniques used by Teamspeed.

its simple really. u just ETTR and do your PP magic . will post more details later
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Credited, I don't see why not. It would be interesting to see how it works! :)
 
I get fed up with the 7D getting slated for being noisy but you do need to expose to the right
these 2 were just converted with ACR and sharpened in photoshop
Do agree tho that 1600 is noisy and its horrid at 3200
BTW did not mean anyone here was slating it just speaking generally
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ISO 800

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ISO 400

The increase in raw buffer does sound too good to be true and hope this is accurate it is from Canonrumors.com!
I do find that I can get more than 15 anyway

if it is tho well done to Canon
I have fairly recently got my 7D and still getting used to it and not finding my shooting is limited by anything with the camera but its nice that they are looking after their customers
 
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Brachytron said:
If there is a genuine issue with high ISO noise (I personnally don't have a problem, although I only really use 1600+ in bright light to get a high shutter speed with small aperture), then Canon may include this under the radar - I am sure I read in several forums that after the first firmware update several years ago, many users reported an improvement in noise even though Canon didn't list this as an improvement (presumably they didn't want to admit a problem).
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Placebo effect.

Does anybody really believe that Canon would release a firmware upgrade and list fixes like 'Corrects menu spelling when Swahili is selected as the language' but they're not going to mention an improvement in one of the basic functions of the camera?
 
menthel said:
Many people have problems with the 7d in higher ISO noise
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Many people complain about noise problems with the 7D. Some of those people have actually used a 7D at least once. Almost every single thread one reads complaining about noise is soon resolved to be underexposure by the user follwed by a boost in PP.
 
hollis_f said:
Many people complain about noise problems with the 7D. Some of those people have actually used a 7D at least once. Almost every single thread one reads complaining about noise is soon resolved to be underexposure by the user follwed by a boost in PP.
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Some of us have shot quite a few frames with their 7d, know how to expose and still have noise. You have to realise that I am saying the same as others, noise appears at 800 but can be dealt with. To a lesser extent it's the same at 1600, beyond that you just have to live with the noise. I am not saying its a crap camera, just that high ISP noise is its weak point, especially when compared to crop cameras with more modern, similar pixel count sensors.

Sorry if that offends!

Ps, sometimes you hit the buffers and you can't expose to the right without compromising the image in other ways. It's not always the answer.
 
hollis_f said:
Many people complain about noise problems with the 7D. Some of those people have actually used a 7D at least once. Almost every single thread one reads complaining about noise is soon resolved to be underexposure by the user follwed by a boost in PP.
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Well I have shot thousands of images with my 7D and when I pixel peep the noise is obvious even when, on the odd occasion, I expose correctly. If I resize my full sensor image for the web, then there is no issue whatsoever.

However cropping, which I do often due to the subject, produces noisy images that can be tamed to an extent. However detail rolls off anywhere above ISO800.

I will say it again though, if you don't crop and just resize for web, there is no problem at all. But if you do crop then there is a problem.
 
menthel said:
Some of us have shot quite a few frames with their 7d, know how to expose and still have noise. You have to realise that I am saying the same as others, noise appears at 800 but can be dealt with. To a lesser extent it's the same at 1600, beyond that you just have to live with the noise. I am not saying its a crap camera, just that high ISP noise is its weak point, especially when compared to crop cameras with more modern, similar pixel count sensors.

Sorry if that offends!

Ps, sometimes you hit the buffers and you can't expose to the right without compromising the image in other ways. It's not always the answer.
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Jim, you are absolutely right in your assessment. I did a comparison with a 7D, 1D4 and 1Ds 3 and there is absolutely no doubt that the 7D has, unfortunately, the noisiest sensor however it must be taken it to account the pixel density in the sensor...my personal opinion is that it would have been much better with say 16 Mp and lower noise.Other features of it (the 7D) were miles ahead of the 1D4, a camera which spent a lot of time in development for reasons we all know.

Having had a brief play with a 5D3 and a longer one with a 1Dx I can say the new sensors in these are in a different league, and I'd personally love a 1.6 crop with the new technology, and to this extent I'm disappointed that a major firmware update will be released rather than a mk2, which for a lot of my photography is ideal.

Canon insist on aiming their publicity, and particularly instruction manuals, (just look at the 1Dx autofocus manual) at the sports market rather than the wildlife/birders who Canon UK are the first to admit are a big market.

Give us a 1.6 crop sensor with the new technology, Canon!!
 
the jury is still out on my 7d issues
I am still trying to get to grips with it
It has the same sensor as my 600d but I get better quality images with the 600d far more easily
It is a lot of faffing to get a good quality correctly focused image on my 7d compared with my 600d
Still experimenting trying to learn the 7d
 
George said:
Jim, you are absolutely right in your assessment. I did a comparison with a 7D, 1D4 and 1Ds 3 and there is absolutely no doubt that the 7D has, unfortunately, the noisiest sensor however it must be taken it to account the pixel density in the sensor...my personal opinion is that it would have been much better with say 16 Mp and lower noise.Other features of it (the 7D) were miles ahead of the 1D4, a camera which spent a lot of time in development for reasons we all know.

Having had a brief play with a 5D3 and a longer one with a 1Dx I can say the new sensors in these are in a different league, and I'd personally love a 1.6 crop with the new technology, and to this extent I'm disappointed that a major firmware update will be released rather than a mk2, which for a lot of my photography is ideal.

Canon insist on aiming their publicity, and particularly instruction manuals, (just look at the 1Dx autofocus manual) at the sports market rather than the wildlife/birders who Canon UK are the first to admit are a big market.

Give us a 1.6 crop sensor with the new technology, Canon!!
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Thanks. I also agree that I would much rather have seen a newer 7d with more modern sensor but I won't say know to the new features for free! I too love a crop as my other photography is mainly done on film. Weird I know!
 
The 7D is a 3 year old 1.6 crop camera that shows noise from ISO 800 upwards. As already said, noise is controllable at 800, tolerable at 1600 and even usable at 3200. Sure, if Canon released a 7DII now it would probably be close to a stop better, but people would then complain of noise at 1600 and above. However high the bar is pushed, people want higher.
 
menthel said:
Some of us have shot quite a few frames with their 7d, know how to expose and still have noise. You have to realise that I am saying the same as others, noise appears at 800 but can be dealt with. To a lesser extent it's the same at 1600, beyond that you just have to live with the noise. I am not saying its a crap camera, just that high ISP noise is its weak point, especially when compared to crop cameras with more modern, similar pixel count sensors.

Sorry if that offends!

Ps, sometimes you hit the buffers and you can't expose to the right without compromising the image in other ways. It's not always the answer.
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check your pm
 
I don't have a 7D and I hear a lot of people complain about the ISO, I was wandering just what exactly is wrong with it? I have a 550D and I believe the 7D and 550D share the same sensor and have the same 100-12800 ISO range and this got me thinking would the 550D suffer from the same problem!? Although I haven't noticed it much at times I do see an ever so slightly grainy image at around 3200 depending on the lightnin situation but most of the time this is at 100% crop as per other times 3200 has no grain in well lit areas eg; sunny day for a very fast shutter speed, am I missing something? ;-p :thinking:
 
lucky_13 said:
I don't have a 7D and I hear a lot of people complain about the ISO, I was wandering just what exactly is wrong with it? I have a 550D and I believe the 7D and 550D share the same sensor and have the same 100-12800 ISO range and this got me thinking would the 550D suffer from the same problem!? Although I haven't noticed it much at times I do see an ever so slightly grainy image at around 3200 depending on the lightnin situation but most of the time this is at 100% crop as per other times 3200 has no grain in well lit areas eg; sunny day for a very fast shutter speed, am I missing something? ;-p :thinking:
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That you are not pushing the sensor. In the circumstances you describe noise would be minimal!
 
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