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Ok guys im selling all of my canon gear and going to try out the dark side me thinks, ill have a budget of £1500 for body a couple of lens, want a good body capable of good iso performance, fast fps ect, type of photography i do is portraits, landscapes, wildlife, airshows ect, so looking for 2 pieces of lass to cover these types of shooting if possible.

Advice would be greatly apprieciated

Thanks Andy
 
I'm thinking the budget is a bit tight for what you need - my thoughts are S/H D700 and the best glass you can get with what's left over ... ranging from landscapes to wildlife with the speed for airshows on, say £600-700 would be a challenge!
D300 or D7000 might be cheaper alternative bodies but not sure where they sit with the Canon hierarchy.
 
gramps said:
I'm thinking the budget is a bit tight for what you need - my thoughts are S/H D700 and the best glass you can get with what's left over ... ranging from landscapes to wildlife with the speed for airshows on, say £600-700 would be a challenge!
D300 or D7000 might be cheaper alternative bodies but not sure where they sit with the Canon hierarchy.
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Cheers gramps for the input, i could maybe stretch to £2000, would this improve things??

Andy
 
Andy if you have circa £2k to spend then as Gramps says a S/H D700 is the way to go...Then as far as glass is concerned IMO you could cover most bases with a Tamron 28-75 and Nikon 70-200 vr1 which would take all of your £2k. You could then look for a TC 14 II or TC 17II to give you some extra reach with the Nikon for an extra couple if hundred ...
 
It would but it depends how much variety you need ... would a 70-200 AF-S (VRI at around £900) or an 80-200 AF (at around £550) + a TC 1.4 (at around £140) do for your wildlife/airshow needs and also cover your portrait needs?
If not for portraits then a 50/85 f1.8 might be required (at around £50 - £250) - depending on above then maybe a bit left over for a Nikon 20 f2.8/24 f2.8 or similar for landscapes.
 
Your camera bag (if accurate on your profile) looks very good. Do you still own all of that gear?
 
D7000 is 7d level.

What is the canon not doing that the nikon might?? Seems like a short route to spending a lot of money for very little improvement to me.

I'd just trade the 5dii for a 5diii if it were me!
 
srichards said:
D7000 is 7d level.

What is the canon not doing that the nikon might?? Seems like a short route to spending a lot of money for very little improvement to me.

I'd just trade the 5dii for a 5diii if it were me!
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Speaking as a Nikon man yes you're right.
 
srichards said:
D7000 is 7d level.

What is the canon not doing that the nikon might?? Seems like a short route to spending a lot of money for very little improvement to me.

I'd just trade the 5dii for a 5diii if it were me!
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+1
 
Andy77 said:
Ok guys im selling all of my canon gear and going to try out the dark side me thinks, ill have a budget of £1500 for body a couple of lens, want a good body capable of good iso performance, fast fps ect, type of photography i do is portraits, landscapes, wildlife, airshows ect, so looking for 2 pieces of lass to cover these types of shooting if possible.

Advice would be greatly apprieciated

Thanks Andy
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You mean the bright side, surely? :p

D7000, tamron 17-50 2.8, Sigma 70-200 2.8 OS - might break the budget a bit, unless you buy used, but that would be an ideal starter pack for your needs.b Also this would be DX, which may not suit you, but it'd give the reach you want for airshows.

If you want to go straight to Nikon FX, you really want to look to a D700, and maybe a 50mm prime. Then start saving for more lenses.
 
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D700 second hand £800
Tamron 28-75 £200
Nikon 80-400 f/4.5-5.6 £700
MB-D10 (Whatever the D700 grip is called, to get 8fps) £80 or so

That puts you at £1780 and you can save more if you get the lenses second hand. You can then add an 85 or 50 1.8G for portraiture and you should be golden
 
tamron 17-50 2.8, Sigma 70-200 2.8 OS
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as you can get both of those on canon as well , is there really any point in changing ? (and thats not a brand loyalty thing, i'd be saying the same to someone thinking of changing nikon to canon)
 
I don't see why you'd want to change. Get a better Canon body if you think you need to upgrade. At the end of the day, it's not the gear that makes the photograph.
 
If you're not getting the results you want with your current gear what makes you think it'll improve with a different brand.
More money than sense springs to mind ( sorry)
 
I've only ever owned Nikon, but I'm concerned that changing won't give you whatever it is you're looking for :shrug:
 
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Stop being silly.


Your photography will not improve. You'll gain nothing. You'll lose a great deal of money on all your gear.

Is there anything specific you feel Nikon will give you that Canon won't?
 
Just buy a 7d to compliment the 5d2. Wildlife togs choice camera from what i've read.
 
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Hold on you guys....the OP has indicated he would like to move to Nikon and has asked for advice as to what his money will buy. It's nothing to do with the rest if us why he has MADE this decision so give the guy a break and if you can help by responding to his request then great...if nit then maybe your comments are best kept to yourselves. All in my opinion that is obviously.

Steve
 
SteveF said:
Hold on you guys....the OP has indicated he would like to move to Nikon and has asked for advice as to what his money will buy. It's nothing to do with the rest if us why he has MADE this decision so give the guy a break and if you can help by responding to his request then great...if nit then maybe your comments are best kept to yourselves. All in my opinion that is obviously.

Steve
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SteveF said:
All in my opinion that is obviously.
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Absolutely. Some of us however, may feel that he needs to have a sit down and think of why he's going to dump all his gear and move to another system, losing a pile of cash in the process when in all likelihood it won't help his photography one bit. Which is why I asked why exactly he feels the need to do so.

His money at the end of the day, yes... but just as that's your opinion, this is mine. Is yours any more valid?
 
you didn't say Full Frame, so
D7000 - £600 new
18-300mm £650 new
TC 1.7 teleconvertor 2nd hand £250

job done
 
SteveF said:
Hold on you guys....the OP has indicated he would like to move to Nikon and has asked for advice as to what his money will buy. It's nothing to do with the rest if us why he has MADE this decision so give the guy a break and if you can help by responding to his request then great...if nit then maybe your comments are best kept to yourselves. All in my opinion that is obviously.

Steve
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Precisely. Either answer what he asked, or ignore the thread. :shrug: SOme people switch simply because they prefer the ergonomics, or they may have some friends on that brand so they can trade with ... it's nowt do with us really.
 
Pookeyhead said:
Absolutely. Some of us however, may feel that he needs to have a sit down and think of why he's going to dump all his gear and move to another system, losing a pile of cash in the process when in all likelihood it won't help his photography one bit. Which is why I asked why exactly he feels the need to do so.

His money at the end of the day, yes... but just as that's your opinion, this is mine. Is yours any more valid?
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So Pookey....are you his dad? Sounds just like the sort if opinion my old man would have voiced ...he would have been told to but out as well. ...very politely of course :)

Andy did not ask for your or anyone else's opinion on why he is considering the change of brand as far as I can see! Just asking what his money will buy?????
 
Diving Pete said:
you didn't say Full Frame, so
D7000 - £600 new
18-300mm £650 new
TC 1.7 teleconvertor 2nd hand £250

job done
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Nice crop kit Pete but not totally certain the lens will take a TC.
 
SteveF said:
Hold on you guys....the OP has indicated he would like to move to Nikon and has asked for advice as to what his money will buy. It's nothing to do with the rest if us why he has MADE this decision so give the guy a break and if you can help by responding to his request then great...if nit then maybe your comments are best kept to yourselves. All in my opinion that is obviously.

Steve
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That's a fair point Steve and quite correct.

However, in my opinion, it would be irresponsible not to question the decision.

I'll happily help him spend his money if that's what he wants to do, but not without checking first.
 
Simon I think it was the "Don't be silly" comment by the usual suspect that caused me to post so no worries with regards to what you are suggesting.

Steve
 
Sorry that should have read "Stop being silly"
 
Jeez I must stop posting from the iPhone ....damn I and o are too close for comfort ! Please excuse the typos :)
 
opps- Forgot that TC's are pretty much for F2.8 lenses only..
So There you go £1250 & enough change for a party....:D
 
SteveF said:
Hold on you guys....the OP has indicated he would like to move to Nikon and has asked for advice as to what his money will buy. It's nothing to do with the rest if us why he has MADE this decision so give the guy a break and if you can help by responding to his request then great...if nit then maybe your comments are best kept to yourselves. All in my opinion that is obviously.

Steve
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Very true.
I will retract my earlier comment however valid it is.
 
SteveF said:
Simon I think it was the "Don't be silly" comment by the usual suspect that caused me to post so no worries with regards to what you are suggesting.

Steve
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That 'don't be stupid' comment, and the others in the same vane, are probably the most useful ones on this thread.

The grass really isn't greener on the other side of the fence and changing camera systems is usually a pretty damned stupid idea, unless you have a very specific reason to do so. Given the question in the first post, Andy doesn't appear to have that reason.

There are far too many people on this forum that gleefully spend other people's money without thinking about the consequences.
 
DemiLion said:
That 'don't be stupid' comment, and the others in the same vane, are probably the most useful ones on this thread.

The grass really isn't greener on the other side of the fence and changing camera systems is usually a pretty damned stupid idea, unless you have a very specific reason to do so. Given the question in the first post, Andy doesn't appear to have that reason.

There are far too many people on this forum that gleefully spend other people's money without thinking about the consequences.
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To be fair the o.p didn't ask should he change systems!
 
DemiLion said:
There are far too many people on this forum that gleefully spend other people's money without thinking about the consequences.
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Similarly those who think they have a right to make decisions for other people.
It's one thing to suggest someone re-consider the benefits of their decision but quite another to make some of the rude comments made here.
 
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