Meat is not an option - my first time as a guest since being a pro

FFS. Can you imagine the outcry and public flogging if if it were 'please note that we will not be providing a vegetarian option'........ and yet its fine the other way around? Madness, absolute madness.

Turn up with a live cow, slaughter it in the entrance hall and bathe naked in the still warm blood while chomping on its heart.

RSVP? Yeah, I'm, not bloody coming. Don't try and force your herbacious life on me.
 
bertpalmer said:
Then sitting down and being surrounded by plates of dead battery chickens probably wouldn't be a great experience for them.
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Frequently said by vegans and vegetarians, but of course "battery chicken" only ever referred to chickens kept in cages for the production of eggs. But facts have never got in the way of the militant vegan evangelists. Nice footage of the chicken harvester, I never managed to see one actually running when I was working for GCFG.

I don't have a problem with anyone choosing to have a vegan or vegetarian wedding, as long as they cope with the genuine dietary requirements of those who have to be fussy about what they eat (I have coeliac disease for example*). And quite frankly, anyone that's going to argue that there's no carnivore option at a vegan wedding is probably neither friend nor family so you'd have to question why they were invited in the first place. We're drawing up our guest list for next summer, and there's no one making the cut that we don't genuinely want to see. But we're also debating whether it'll be fur or feathers that gets sacrificed..



*one slight advantage with CD, you can genuinely refuse Quorn saying that it will make you ill and has long term effects on your health including increasing the likelihood of several cancers. Makes anyone offering it stop and think.
 
CanonDjango said:
if my wife serves me a meal with no meat on the plate I just sit there staring at her silently until she realises the error of her ways and corrects it.
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That is very kind of you. Shows immense patience :)
 
Mart61 said:
Blooming veggies. Tis the height of decadence. There's people in this world starving and yet there's some that opt to cut out entire food groups from their diet. Tis not right!
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seriously? ... if more of the world were vegetarian, there would be a lot more food. Meat production is incredibly inefficient in terms of land usage and farming effort. On the macroscopic, world population scale, we're all going to have to start to consume less meat sooner or later... (and a large percentage of the world population is already practically vegetarian)


It does amaze me the militancy that some people are carnivorous - surely you had dinners without meat in them sometimes? surely? Purely because a fair few dishes simply don't have meat in them?
 
itsdavedotnet said:
seriously? ... if more of the world were vegetarian, there would be a lot more food. Meat production is incredibly inefficient in terms of land usage and farming effort. On the macroscopic, world population scale, we're all going to have to start to consume less meat sooner or later... (and a large percentage of the world population is already practically vegetarian)
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Practically vegetarian? So you mean vegetarian but still eat meat sometimes? Thats not a vegetarian. I would gues (and thats all it would be) that a very very small percentage of the world population are vegetarian.

itsdavedotnet said:
It does amaze me the militancy that some people are carnivorous - surely you had dinners without meat in them sometimes? surely? Purely because a fair few dishes simply don't have meat in them?
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Nope. I probably eat meat (inc fish) of some sort every single day of the week. Oh, and militancy of meat eaters? Have you met a vegan or vegetarian lately? You will know because they will usually tell you that before they tell you their name... ;)
 
Hefferzzzz said:
Practically vegetarian? So you mean vegetarian but still eat meat sometimes? Thats not a vegetarian.
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The majority of the world's population cannot afford to eat meat to the extent that we do in the Western world, and several of the world's major religions call for absolute or near vegetarianism. The term "practically vegetarian"is a very good way of describing in simple terms a diet where meat plays much less prominence. A diet your narrow world view finds difficult to accept. Your evangelical carnivorism is getting tiresome. And I'm a confirmed meat-eating omnivore.
 
Alastair said:
The majority of the world's population cannot afford to eat meat to the extent that we do in the Western world, and several of the world's major religions call for absolute or near vegetarianism. The term "practically vegetarian"is a very good way of describing in simple terms a diet where meat plays much less prominence. A diet your narrow world view finds difficult to accept. Your evangelical carnivorism is getting tiresome. And I'm a confirmed meat-eating omnivore.
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Whoooa step back from the precipice cowboy. Narrow minded, evangelical? Whats the matter, Not had a cuddle this morning?

You cannot be practically vegetarian. You either are or you are not. Its like saying someone is practially heterosexual apart from when they are screwing somone of the same sex.
 
itsdavedotnet said:
seriously? ...
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Absolutely seriously!

Another thing. When entertaining veggie guests my wife and I go out of our way to ensure there is a dish or two that meets their dietary requirements. Will they do us a steak, burger or sausages when we go to their house? Will they hell!
 
Hefferzzzz said:
Whoooa step back from the precipice cowboy. Narrow minded, evangelical? Whats the matter, Not had a cuddle this morning?

You cannot be practically vegetarian. You either are or you are not. Its like saying someone is practially heterosexual apart from when they are screwing somone of the same sex.
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The utterly poor choice of analogy aside, if you can only see vegetarianism as a lifestyle choice, then yeah, it's either or - but for the billions of people who have meat on the rare occasions that it's available or affordable, it's simply what they eat, and I think that describing that as 'practically vegetarian' is the right choice of words really.


I enjoy cooking, one of my favourite challenges is cooking a vegetarian meal for omnivorous friends that they'll really enjoy. That said, if I'm cooking a roast, I'll still cook them a chicken cos let's face it, that's the main bit of a roast right?
 
Mart61 said:
Absolutely seriously!

Another thing. When entertaining veggie guests my wife and I go out of our way to ensure there is a dish or two that meets their dietary requirements. Will they do us a steak, burger or sausages when we go to their house? Will they hell!
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It's probably because they don't like to encourage the murdering of animals for food, so cook you a nice meal without meat.

How do you justify feeding them meat?

"We suggest more animals should be murdered for your pleasure. Please, have this steak we've prepared for you."
 
theurbanclown said:
A good meal, is a good meal regardless of if it's vegetarian or not.

Valid reasons not to like vegetarian food:

You eat at bad restaurants
Your cooking sucks
Your partner's cooking sucks

I'll make you a good sweet potato and chickpea curry sometime. It'll sort you out.
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I can't argue with any of that (but I'll politely turn down your offer in the last sentence). I once shared my staff accommodation apartment with an Indian couple who had to give up meat for one of their religious festivals. The vegetarian cooking she was doing almost made me give up meat! Fortunately I like my sausage and bacon butties too much to go down that path.
 
It's a vegetarian meal. Eating it won't kill you. If it's done right, it'll be tasty. Good food is good irrespective of meat. Either go because you're good friends, or don't go because you don't like them. Basing your friendship on a single meal seems a bit silly.

FWIW I'm vegetarian. My sister's both vegetarian and has coeliac disease. Life is much harder for her.
 
RichBrew said:
Professionalism goes everywhere with you. It doesn't stop just because you don't like the look of what's on the menu, working or not.

RB
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Give over! How does that even work? So every person who works as something professionally has to behave 'professionally' no matter where they are or what they're doing? I think that's an absolute load of baldricks
 
omens said:
It's a vegetarian meal. Eating it won't kill you. If it's done right, it'll be tasty. Good food is good irrespective of meat. Either go because you're good friends, or don't go because you don't like them. Basing your friendship on a single meal seems a bit silly.

FWIW I'm vegetarian.
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I totally agree. I'm a meat eater but have enjoyed many vegetarian dishes.

That said - For some people it's about choice. Or lack of because meat eaters are expected to eat a vegetarian dish on the back of somebody else's beliefs.

Imagine reading the following........

It's a meat based meal. Eating it won't kill you. If it's done right, it'll be tasty. Good food is good irrespective of meat.
 
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Seriously this thread is nonsense. Such anger pointed toward vegetarianism. You're all talking like a band of sad old gits really...

Daryl said:
Tell them you not Bovine and wish to get a roasting spit wild beast for dinner. Bloody Veggies!
Bit selfish when the guests don't like grass as the main course.
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"Don't like grass..." To be faire this is a pretty insulting remark.
Also is it not selfish from you to think that a weeding should be plan to whatever you want without considering what the bride and groom are wanting?

andyscott said:
Freaks, its just not right, I cant believe it, not only are they mental, but they force their views on others.
Its like saying oh its a homosexual wedding so no hetrosexual couples are welcome.
Just because you dont eat meat doesnt mean your guests shouldnt. I wouldnt dream of saying veggie is not an option.
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What? I guess this has nothing in common!

Hefferzzzz said:
FFS. Can you imagine the outcry and public flogging if if it were 'please note that we will not be providing a vegetarian option'........ and yet its fine the other way around? Madness, absolute madness.
Turn up with a live cow, slaughter it in the entrance hall and bathe naked in the still warm blood while chomping on its heart.
RSVP? Yeah, I'm, not bloody coming. Don't try and force your herbacious life on me.
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This is really elegant! Are you not able to enjoy a plate of food that don't have meat on it? Do you have a medical prescription that you require meat at every meal? Or was that supposed to be funny?

If the friends that invite you to their weeding are friends, maybe you can conceive that for one day you can survive without eating meat. You can still ask for an alternative that fit you dietary requirement. If it's their conviction and they would like not to see meat on the table what is wrong with this? Or maybe they are not friends. Why do you even bother with such people they are obviously a waste of your time not being able to put a steak in your plate?

PS: I'm not vegetarian
 
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theurbanclown said:
It's probably because they don't like to encourage the murdering of animals for food...
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Again goes back to my original point about being decadent. It's a choice many do not have.

I have no issues with anybody's lifestyle choices, be they political, religious or otherwise, until I'm expected to follow them.
 
Lemaildetom said:
Also is it not selfish from you to think that a weeding should be plan to whatever you want without considering what the bride and groom are wanting?

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If the friends that invite you to their weeding are friends
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hmmm? A weeding - is that where the food for lunch is coming from? Better take your gardening gloves andy!
 
Mart61 said:
Absolutely seriously!

Another thing. When entertaining veggie guests my wife and I go out of our way to ensure there is a dish or two that meets their dietary requirements. Will they do us a steak, burger or sausages when we go to their house? Will they hell!
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Some of the best meals I've had cooked for me were by a vegetarian and they all had meat in them!
 
However, I think that I have an ecological solution to this problem. As a species, we need to revert to cannibalism.

World food shortage and massed over population sorted out in one easy move!
 
Until the survivors all go down with kuru.
 
My wife is veggie.
I cook some awesome veggie fishes, while she cooks the best steak I have ever had.

Winning! :D
 
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