Looking to change to NIKON D810

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currently i use a 5DMIII and i enjoy using it, but every time i see a shot with a D810 i think im missing out. so im just wondering has any one done anything similar?
 
Danny-K said:
currently i use a 5DMIII and i enjoy using it, but every time i see a shot with a D810 i think im missing out. so im just wondering has any one done anything similar?
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Missing out on what exactly?

fwiw I nearly went the other way, i.e. from a D810 to 5DMkIII ... 'twas just a fad though, and nothing really to be gained for me (well other than the superb 135 f2 ;)).

The Nikon will handle completely differently to the Canon, the buttons and wheels (well wheel in the case of Canon) are in different places, about the only thing common is you put a lens on the front and the shutter release button! Both are hugely competent cameras and in my case the limiting factor is me, not the equipment. Unless there is something specifically that you need or want a D810 for that cannot be done as well with a 5DMkIII I wouldn't bother. Of course if you just fancy a change then go for it ;)
 
If you have many lenses it surely won't be worth changing to the Nikon system. But having said that many do change so why don't you go see a Nikon D810 and see what it feels like in your hands. I use a D810 and love it, all those megapixels offer so much in an image.
 
PaulButler said:
Missing out on what exactly?

fwiw I nearly went the other way, i.e. from a D810 to 5DMkIII ... 'twas just a fad though, and nothing really to be gained for me (well other than the superb 135 f2 ;)).

The Nikon will handle completely differently to the Canon, the buttons and wheels (well wheel in the case of Canon) are in different places, about the only thing common is you put a lens on the front and the shutter release button! Both are hugely competent cameras and in my case the limiting factor is me, not the equipment. Unless there is something specifically that you need or want a D810 for that cannot be done as well with a 5DMkIII I wouldn't bother. Of course if you just fancy a change then go for it ;)
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Totes :agree:

There's nothing wrong with your current camera, you're probably just seeing better photographers' work and hoping its the camera that'll make the difference - its not

But if you do change don't post in a year or two that you're thinking of jumping to the Canon/Fuji whatever as "every time i see a shot with a XYZ i think im missing out" lol

Dave
 
What might you be missing? The only obvious thing is sensor, where the D810 will have higher resolution and better dynamic range and also access to the Nikon lens range. If those are what your work lacks then it's likely worth upgrading, but otherwise probably not.
 
sorry should have been a little clearer on my background I've been reading about how good the dynamic range is on the D810. I mostly shoot landscapes' and feel the 5Dmiii is wasted on me. Do I need all those AF points ? I hardly ever use AF.

It's the sensor that's really got me thinking about switching. I've used canon alot for Astro work but my day to day work family life has made me switch to daytime photography.

Now I'm getting more interested in landscapes' I'm just thinking the D810 may be better suited.
 
Well the D810 will edge the 5DMkIII when using it for landscapes. BUT edge it is the key phrase. I could take equally good, or bad depending on your opinion ;), landscapes with your 5DMkIII or my D810 any differences would be minor and with the proper craft, you would never be able to tell them apart. If your main focus are landscapes and you want more resolution (well megapixels) then one of the Canon 5DS or 5DS R may be worth looking at, I have seen some excellent results using these, but again, nothing that would cause me to change. Of course, there is always medium format (digital or analogue ;)).

Not sure how many lenses and what types you have, but that is always a consideration in terms of the cost of the change (it isn't an upgrade really). Nikon doesn't really have any lenses at the typical landscape range that Canon doesn't (the 14-24 maybe but it is a specialised beast and needs uber expensive filters etc).

As for AF points, well the D810 still has 51 of the wee beasties ;)

Don't get me wrong I think the D810 is the best camera body I've ever used, but it is far from the limiting factor, my own skillset and knowledge are where the limit is, not the equipment.
 
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I use two D810's in combo with my long lenses.
… dream machines for both pixel count and DR.
 
I've owned a 5Dmkiii, currently own a 6D (so v similar sensor), and I use a D810 daily in work.

The D810 is certainly a stunning camera, but personally having used both, theres nothing about it that would make me want to switch systems. The dynamic range certainly is better, theres no denying that, but if you bracket your landscapes with the 5Dmkiii then the gap narrows considerably.

The handling is subjective, I like somethings about Canon bodies and somethings about Nikon's, but if you do switch you'll adapt regardless.

But (and this is purely my opinion) the thing that draws me to Canon (and keeps me coming back even having used several different systems) is the colours. There is a certain quality to Canon files that I love and I will take this over improved dynamic range any day of the week. Of course any camera can produce fantastic results, but out of all the systems I've owned I spend considerably less time working on Canon (and Fuji) files to get them to where I want them to be.

Of course many people can and will say the same other brands files and colours, and I appreciate it's purely a personal subjective opinion for me to prefer Canon.

If you do make the switch I have no doubt you'll love the camera, but it's a big move and realistically probably won't make as much of a difference as you think :)
 
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PaulButler said:
Well the D810 will edge the 5DMkIII when using it for landscapes. BUT edge it is the key phrase. I could take equally good, or bad depending on your opinion ;), landscapes with your 5DMkIII or my D810 any differences would be minor and with the proper craft, you would never be able to tell them apart. If your main focus are landscapes and you want more resolution (well megapixels) then one of the Canon 5DS or 5DS R may be worth looking at, I have seen some excellent results using these, but again, nothing that would cause me to change. Of course, there is always medium format (digital or analogue ;)).

Not sure how many lenses and what types you have, but that is always a consideration in terms of the cost of the change (it isn't an upgrade really). Nikon doesn't really have any lenses at the typical landscape range that Canon doesn't (the 14-24 maybe but it is a specialised beast and needs uber expensive filters etc).

As for AF points, well the D810 still has 51 of the wee beasties ;)

Don't get me wrong I think the D810 is the best camera body I've ever used, but it is far from the limiting factor, my own skillset and knowledge are where the limit is, not the equipment.
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I use a 16-35F4L IS USM for most of my landscapes' it is intact my only lens that I use 90% of the time. I have a night fifty but that doesn't get use much. So swapping one lens won't affect me.

I've watched a few videos on the 5DS and they say its a big upgrade from the 5Dmiii but not so much of an upgrade from a D810 that's what made me think that I could similar resolution to a 5Ds if I got a D810

medium format is out of my price range :)
 
I have a similar set up you. I recently got a Sony 16-35mm f4 (replacing my CV 15mm/4.5+35mm/2.8) and couple of canon primes (40mm STM and 100mm f/2).
I also have a bunch of MF lenses but that's another story :LOL:
 
Danny-K said:
I use a 16-35F4L IS USM for most of my landscapes' it is intact my only lens that I use 90% of the time. I have a night fifty but that doesn't get use much. So swapping one lens won't affect me.

I've watched a few videos on the 5DS and they say its a big upgrade from the 5Dmiii but not so much of an upgrade from a D810 that's what made me think that I could similar resolution to a 5Ds if I got a D810

medium format is out of my price range :)
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The Nikon equivalent lens, 16-35 f4 VR, is pretty decent and compares well with the Canon one so that would be very much like for like. Don't get me wrong, the D810 is superb - just that often a skills upgrade is a better investment ;)
 
nandbytes said:
Someone might bite me for saying this but you could also get Sony A7R(II) and continue using your lenses ;):D
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I was going to suggest a sony too. I have a D810 but the draw of Milky way shots with one of those Hi ISO sony's is hard to resist
 
I think you are referring to the A7s bodies? But they have 12mp and mainly geared towards video (not that they are not capable of good stills). Apparently you can shoot milkyway handheld with one of those thanks to their high ISO (and IBIS in A7SII)!!
 
wex have a Sony A7Rii for £2499 o_O
 
Danny-K said:
wex have a Sony A7Rii for £2499 o_O
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Nikon D810 is £2399

When it came out it was £2600, then went up to £3200 (thx to Brexit) and now back down to £2500.
You can get it cheaper used (one for £2K at LCE).

A7R on the other hand was recently selling for £999 (or £800 for used at LCE, but can probably get it cheaper).

The A7RII has the latest Sony sensor, A7R and D810 share a similar sensor.
 
I have to say for landscapes I certainly notice the DR of Nikon, so much so that I very rarely bracket these days which saves me a lot of faff in pp. Also, shadows recover better with less noise. If the D810 had 7fps or faster in FX mode then I'd be swapping my D750 for one, but I do shoot sports and 5fps isn't enough. I'm eagerly awaiting the D820 which seems to have been imminent for months now. Rumours suggest 42mp (which I don't need) but if they can up the fps and keep the noise handling and DR it'll be very difficult for me to resist ;)
 
Sir SR said:
Get a film medium format camera.......
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TBH I'd put the resolution and ability to show fine detail of my D610 at about the same or slightly better than my old Bronica ETR with 100ASA film. Of course that doesn't give film images with all the charm that goes with it, but it does make life easier.
 
Danny-K said:
currently i use a 5DMIII and i enjoy using it, but every time i see a shot with a D810 i think im missing out. so im just wondering has any one done anything similar?
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Danny, Where are you based. I may not be too far from you and if you want to try a D810 out I may be able to meet up. I've been meaning to get out to that spot you've shot for a while now but never seem to get round to it....Or it starts to pee down with rain....
 
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mattyg said:
Danny, Where are you based. I may not be too far from you and if you want to try a D810 out I may be able to meet up. I've been meaning to get out to that spot you've shot for a while now but never seem to get round to it....Or it starts to pee down with rain....
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I live in halewood on the south edge of Liverpool. That would be good be nice to use one. Which spot we talking about? The jetty?
 
Danny-K said:
I live in halewood on the south edge of Liverpool. That would be good be nice to use one. Which spot we talking about? The jetty?
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I've been after a shot of the riverfront. Liver buildings, St John's tower etc from over the water for a while.
I think its from here
https://www.google.co.uk/maps/place...7b8c04ffb020979!8m2!3d53.4090762!4d-3.0158349

I'm in Southport

Not sure if I'm getting you mixed up with another poster but I'm sure you either started or posted on a thread of the liverpool skyline
 
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My favourite landscape photographs are nine times out of ten taken in large or medium format.
 
mattyg said:
I've been after a shot of the riverfront. Liver buildings, St John's tower etc from over the water for a while.
I think its from here
https://www.google.co.uk/maps/place...7b8c04ffb020979!8m2!3d53.4090762!4d-3.0158349

I'm in Southport

Not sure if I'm getting you mixed up with another poster but I'm sure you either started or posted on a thread of the liverpool skyline
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yes I did do the skyline a few weeks back. It's an easy place the do and you can park 50meters away from the spot
 
There's an interesting experiment brewing here. Take the same photo with a 5D Mk III and a D810. See how meaningful the differences are at normal screen resolution and on a print.
 
I would venture to say that you're chasing straws. Shopping is no substitute for doing. An imagined perfection is no substitute for real life. It's possible for an image to have a technical perfection but little meaning. What are you at, exactly?
 
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