Jade and cancer

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I was just typing a reply to another thread about Jade and cancer and then had to take the kids to bed and the thread was closed. I hope this is ok but I wish to say my bit.

Why lock a thread because people have different views?

Jade has finally done something worthwhile promoting this horrible disease that effects most of us at one point or another.

Is it worthwhile slagging off a young woman with young children who has not got long to live?

What can we take out of all of this?

1. ladies, check your knockers and have regular smear tests

2. Blokes, check your nuts


3. Cancer treatment is getting better and is an illness that effects loads of us. If you can afford it, it is a worthwhile charity.

Cancer research uk

The Royal Marsden

And a lesser known one but one close to my heart (my son)

The Christian Blandford Fund

If you can afford to give, give.
 
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I too have just seen the other locked thread, its a shame it was locked really. Cancer affected my mother too and I've seen first hand how much of an affect it can have. It's only thanks to the research and medicine performed in this area that shes thankfully alive today.

I don't particularly like Jade Goody as a person but, shes doing great things for raising awareness to this terrible disease.
 
i locked the thread, because it was going away from the fact Jade is dying of cancer to a discussion on the rights and wrongs of peoples opinions. If this thread remains on course, and not turns into an argument on what people think of her then it can stay open.
 
I lost my best mate (my dad) to cancer and now my sister has it but her prognosis is good but any help to any cancer charity is welcomed by them as they are so underfunded
 
matty said:
i locked the thread, because it was going away from the fact Jade is dying of cancer to a discussion on the rights and wrongs of peoples opinions. If this thread remains on course, and not turns into an argument on what people think of her then it can stay open.
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Dangermouse1964 said:
any help to any cancer charity is welcomed by them as they are so underfunded
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As I said in the other thread before it went bandit, it sickens me that cancer charities have to be charities at all, there should be no need for all this fund raising. Cancer is one of the biggest killers in this country, we're always being told that, so why on earth isn't the NHS funding the charities and research? Or the government? I don't want to drag this thread off course, but surely I'm not the only one who thinks this?
 
ChrisMClark said:
As I said in the other thread before it went bandit, it sickens me that cancer charities have to be charities at all, there should be no need for all this fund raising. Cancer is one of the biggest killers in this country, we're always being told that, so why on earth isn't the NHS funding the charities and research? Or the government? I don't want to drag this thread off course, but surely I'm not the only one who thinks this?
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no your not

i think a lot a charities relinquishes the government of their responsibility.
 
I cant believe this, I've never had one of these smear test thingies (and am 20), but nobody I know back in the States nobody ever has such a thing, until they're like 30+ and are wanting kids. why is it that so many people are so prone to cancer here?! having to have a hysterectomy at the age of 28 is so sad, and I just find it incredible that that amount of people will never have children at the rate cervical cancer is found..... very sad.
 
i lost my dad in september last year to cancer, then my mam in august.. so i no how hard it is to watch someone you love go throw all the treatment and not make it out the other end.. but i take my hat of to all the *** who helped them out..
 
My step mum has a history of cancer in her family, and after some testing it was determined that she'd need to have several operations to prevent cancer. She's over the rocky road now, but it's cost her and my dad thousands of pounds in wages (they have their own business).

Cancer is the last thing I'd ever wish anybody to go through, just terrible.
 
ChrisMClark said:
As I said in the other thread before it went bandit, it sickens me that cancer charities have to be charities at all, there should be no need for all this fund raising. Cancer is one of the biggest killers in this country, we're always being told that, so why on earth isn't the NHS funding the charities and research? Or the government? I don't want to drag this thread off course, but surely I'm not the only one who thinks this?
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Hi Chris, that is a very valid and commonly held view.

Unfortunately I believe the answer comes down to the reality of human behaviour. It is a sad fact that people are often happy to steal from the state, this can manifest itself in a rich man that avoids tax or a government employee who slacks off work. The current government has spent more than any government ever on the NHS but the more money that gets pumped into the system the more that gets wasted. Charity money, however, is far more efficient.

When my son was treated for cancer he was treated under a "joint care" program which meant he was treated partly in the Royal Marsden and partly in St George's Hospital in Tooting. The first of these is a dedicated cancer hospital and is well supported by the government and plenty of charity money, the other one is a typical Victorian Hospital. The difference in the level of comfort and care was amazing.

I have chosen to donate and raise money for the hospital where the level of comfort was worse and try to level the playing field. I have raised over £200,000 so far and I can see where the money has been spent, and none of it has been wasted. I hate to think how much central government funding would have been needed to trickle down to where it was actually needed.

Another way of looking at it is that the priority of the state is to provide medicine and equipment to save lives. I chose to raise money to improve the comfort of children and their parents when they are going through a dreadful time.

We can all bury our heads in the sand and say that it is the job of the state to do everything but surely it is better to take the bull by the horns and make a difference ourselves?

christianblandford.com
 
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Totally Pete, I have friends who aare taking part in the great north run, to raise money for cancer research. I won't be joining them however, but only because if I run more than a mile or so my knee is likely to explode again.
 
On a lighter note, I offered the Royal Marsden some of my photos for fund raising and they chose it as an opportunity to take the ****!

;)

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englandshottest2 said:
I cant believe this, I've never had one of these smear test thingies (and am 20), but nobody I know back in the States nobody ever has such a thing, until they're like 30+ and are wanting kids. why is it that so many people are so prone to cancer here?! having to have a hysterectomy at the age of 28 is so sad, and I just find it incredible that that amount of people will never have children at the rate cervical cancer is found..... very sad.
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As I understand from a chat show on the radio, you would not get a smear test on the NHS at 20 the minimum age is 25.

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Under the NHS Cervical Screening Programme, all women between the ages of 25 and 65 are regularly invited for a smear test. The system is automated, so as long as you're registered with a GP you should receive a letter asking you to make an appointment.

As a result of research that evaluated the optimal frequency for cervical screening, women are now invited for their first test at 25. They're then invited every three years until the age of 49, and every five years from 50 to 64.

From 65, only those who've had recent abnormal tests are offered another test.
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hmmm well im not entitled to NHS so am private (if that's the correct term?!) another something to worry about :(! hmmmm no more s*x!
 
ShawWellPete said:
On a lighter note, I offered the Royal Marsden some of my photos for fund raising and they chose it as an opportunity to take the ****!

;)
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:lol::lol::lol: nice one good on ya' :thumbs:
 
My step dad has terminal cancer. We were hoping chemo would give him a few more months, however we found out a few days ago it hasn't worked and there's nothing they can do now.
I do wish Jade and her family all the best.
 
englandshottest2 said:
I cant believe this, I've never had one of these smear test thingies (and am 20), but nobody I know back in the States nobody ever has such a thing, until they're like 30+ and are wanting kids. why is it that so many people are so prone to cancer here?! having to have a hysterectomy at the age of 28 is so sad, and I just find it incredible that that amount of people will never have children at the rate cervical cancer is found..... very sad.
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Perhaps you are getting confused by the name of the test as used here in the UK. Cervical cancer rates in the US have dropped 70% since testing was introduced according to this link http://www.labtestsonline.org/understanding/conditions/cervical.html
 
I think they should reduce the ago to 20. I was nearly 21 when I was diagnosed with abnormal cells after a smear. If I hadn't have had that smear and had left it until I was 25, I wouldn't be here now. I had treatment and thankfully have been clear. My tests were once a year for 5 years after that and now every 3 years.

I know of 2 others that were also under 25 when they had abnormal cells.
 
kelack said:
I think they should reduce the ago to 20. I was nearly 21 when I was diagnosed with abnormal cells after a smear. If I hadn't have had that smear and had left it until I was 25, I wouldn't be here now. I had treatment and thankfully have been clear. My tests were once a year for 5 years after that and now every 3 years.

I know of 2 others that were also under 25 when they had abnormal cells.
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is there any paricular reason why you whent for a smear. The thing is ive always been healthy but the last three members of my family that have died to cancer had no symptoms...

How do you go about requesting one?
 
hopefully the vaccine that is being introduced to 12 year old schoolgirls will reduce the risk of cervical cancer even more.
 
steunited said:
hopefully the vaccine that is being introduced to 12 year old schoolgirls will reduce the risk of cervical cancer even more.
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As long as parents allow it to be used. Last I heard there was quite a lot of resistance from some groups.
 
Dom_Cabarete said:
is there any paricular reason why you whent for a smear. The thing is ive always been healthy but the last three members of my family that have died to cancer had no symptoms...

How do you go about requesting one?
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Because I was 20 and the University suggested that all the girls should, I think that was before the age changed to 25 anyway, not sure though. And I'm glad I did otherwise they wouldn't have picked up that I had abnormal cells (CIN2). This led to courses of treatment which led to an all clear.

AFAIK, if you want a smear you can just go to you GP and request one. But I think it might be a tad difficult for you Dom ;)
 
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Do they still do smear tests at Family Planning Clinics. 25 years ago my then current girlfriend used to pay regular visits, it also meant a free supply of condoms too. :lol:
 
i believe you can ask for smear test as soon as you are sexually active.
 
I had a smear test when I was 19 - purely for the reason I was "sexually active". That was 7 years ago and I can't believe they upped the age to 25. They should definitely bring the age down again. With all cancers, the earliest you can catch the evil disease, the better
 
since a lot of teenage girls seem to get pregnant at 14(some even younger):shake: perhaps they should lower the age by quite a bit
 
jolsterj said:
no your not

i think a lot a charities relinquishes the government of their responsibility.
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The Childrens Hospice that my Son goes to (EACH) gets only 4% of it's money from statutory bodies. The rest is raised from fundraising, donations etc and they have to raise £12,000 per day to keep the hospice's open and providing a fantastic service. It is about time that the government realised what a fantastic job these places are doing and funded them accordingly.
 
Having lost my mother to cancer when I was in my teens I really do understand the situation she is in, like so many others. It is truly heartbreaking, and to stand firm and raise awareness of this disease is something to be very proud of.
I was pleased to take part in a recent charity event for Marie Curie where we raised almost £7000, but it takes far more than money to cure cancer - it takes people.
Those who care and look after cancer patients, those who are working every day to cure it... these are the people I am thankful for as they are the ones that gave me an extra year with my mother.
I truly hope that Jade's children will be proud of everything she has done in spite of her health.
 
I was always told that smear tests should start once sexually active.....I have it done every year and although it's not very pleasant, it's a necessity

my daughter has just had her vaccine over the past six months and I will encourage her to get her smears on a regular basis
 
mu auntie died on wednesday with cancer and similar to what jade had but she originally had breast cancer...
 
I wish there was an easier way of testing tbh. I'm 31 and have not had a smear test yet :( I'm petrified of even the thought. My doctor is understanding of this thankfully, and every now and again orders a C125 (I think that's it) blood test to check for cancer 'markers'. I'm hoping that one day they will figure out some sort of DIY test, like what they have with testing for Chlamydia recently for the under 25's.

As for Jade ... The whole thing would sit better with me, if she didn't keep insisting the money is for her sons. Surely even before all this she had enough saved to give them a decent start in life. Now if she decided to give all the money she had earned since her 'news' to cancer charities .. that surely would teach her kids a whole lot more than a few million in the bank :). Just my opinion of course.

Andi ~ Sorry to hear about you aunt :( Same goes for everyone else that's lost someone to this awful illness.
 
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what i dont understand is why there are so many people (celebs mainly) promoting Breast Cancer Awareness.
Maybe its the cynic in me but I think they promote it because its trendy.
There cant be many people in this country that have never heard of Breast Cancer and dont know that you need to check them out!
Time to promote awareness of something different IMHO.. Actually I'm pretty fed up with celebrities promoting awareness of anything.. Its just an easy way to get publicity.

And whilst I'm being cynical, whatever happened to sponsoring people to do something hard? In London we often have charity walks where you are expected to sponsor someone to walk 6km!!! I walk more than that every other day in my job.
 
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