Is she allowed to do this?....

[Cg_Girl]

My Daughter just called me to say a lady is taking photographs from her bedroom window of her and her friends as she thinks they have broke a bridge...

Background.... We live in a village and there is a nature park thingy that kids and dog walkers bird watchers all sorts go too, basically the kids about 5 or 6 of them (age 14) were down there like they do laughing being silly etc, my daughter shouted at one of them not to pull her jumper it will break, she thinks the lady heard her and thinks she was talking about the bridge, they tried to tell her the bridge was broken (a slat as lifted a bit) and it's been rotten for ages but this lady went back got her phone and camera and was snapping away in her house but then came out and was taking pictures up close at them, they think she either videoed them walking away to come back to see me.

My daughter even tried to explain she shouted at them for her jumper and they hadn't done anything...

Now i know teenagers get a bad name often and to be honest if it had been my eldest boy, i'd be a bit suspect.. but in fairness to my daughter i really do think she's telling the truth..she's a good girl..

I know i often go to town or places and try my hand at candid stuff so would this be classed the same? that the lady was/is alllowed to take my daughters and her friends photos etc? Pops (my daughter) called me whilst this was happening because she was scared, they didn't want to go past this ladies house and worried they were going to get in trouble with the police for something they genuinely hadn't done..

I did go and see this lady, ( politely) stating that she had upset my daughter, her dog was barking so i asked if she could have a proper conversation about what happened but not thru an inch crack in the door, she slammed the door in my face and said the police will be here soon, i waited but nothing so i've come home...

 

[mortimerhill]

Of course she can. It sounds like the children are in a public place, so no restrituons.

 

[big soft moose]

My Daughter just called me to say a lady is taking photographs from her bedroom window of her and her friends as she thinks they have broke a bridge...

Background.... We live in a village and there is a nature park thingy that kids and dog walkers bird watchers all sorts go too, basically the kids about 5 or 6 of them (age 14) were down there like they do laughing being silly etc, my daughter shouted at one of them not to pull her jumper it will break, she thinks the lady heard her and thinks she was talking about the bridge, they tried to tell her the bridge was broken (a slat as lifted a bit) and it's been rotten for ages but this lady went back got her phone and camera and was snapping away in her house but then came out and was taking pictures up close at them, they think she either videoed them walking away to come back to see me.

My daughter even tried to explain she shouted at them for her jumper and they hadn't done anything...

Now i know teenagers get a bad name often and to be honest if it had been my eldest boy, i'd be a bit suspect.. but in fairness to my daughter i really do think she's telling the truth..she's a good girl..

I know i often go to town or places and try my hand at candid stuff so would this be classed the same? that the lady was/is alllowed to take my daughters and her friends photos etc? Pops (my daughter) called me whilst this was happening because she was scared, they didn't want to go past this ladies house and worried they were going to get in trouble with the police for something they genuinely hadn't done..

I did go and see this lady, ( politely) stating that she had upset my daughter, her dog was barking so i asked if she could have a proper conversation about what happened but not thru an inch crack in the door, she slammed the door in my face and said the police will be here soon, i waited but nothing so i've come home...

In a word yes - they are in a public place so she can take their picture , simples

in practice if the pic doesnt show them commiting an illegal act the police will do jack anyway

May be if your daughter didnt hang about in the nature park shouting outside peoples houses and being silly in the first place this wouldnt be an issue - I'm all for kids enjoying the countryside, responsibly, but it sounds like this woman is tired of the disturbance, and i can't really blame her

 

[viv1969]

As above. The woman might be obnoxious, but she's done nothing "wrong".

 

[Cg_Girl]

Thanks guys...I assumed she could to be honest and that's what i told them, it just seems wrong to intimidate them in their faces like that..

 

[big soft moose]

it just seems wrong to intimidate them in their faces like that..

Its hard to believe one woman was that intimidating to a bunch of teenagers tbh - I wouldn't give the "mummy mummy i was scared" thing much credence.

 

[Cg_Girl]

Its hard to believe one woman was that intimidating to a bunch of teenagers tbh - I wouldn't give the "mummy mummy i was scared" thing much credence.

No and like i said if it was my son i wouldn't, and to be honest i'd much rather have kids being kids having a laugh and a giggle fest in the park than loiter with a bad crowd on the streets

You can't put all kids in the same catagory, yes some can be intimidating themselves i know but some are just kids that are genuinely doing nothing major wrong

 

[big soft moose]

No and like i said if it was my son i wouldn't, and to be honest i'd much rather have kids being kids having a laugh and a giggle fest in the park than loiter with a bad crowd on the streets

Sure , but its not your house they are hanging arround outside making a shed load of noise.

If you look at it from her PoV you've got a broken bridge and a bunch of kids hanging arround being a pain in the arse... its not a major leap to connect the two

As I said so long as the kids are telling you the truth (not always a given) and the photos don't show them vandalising the bridge or doing anything else illegal the police arent going to do anything so the kids are just being melodramatic

That said it wouldnt be a bad idea for your daughter and freinds to stay away from this womans house for a bit anyway

(incidentally every summer we get gates, bridges, fences, etc vandalised by kids who have nowt better to do , often for fuel for fires - and i've lost count of the number of times parents say "oh little jonny/jenny wouldnt do that / it must have been rotten anyway / they were only having fun / hey they're on holiday or some such other variation )

 

[Cg_Girl]

Ok i'll get her to take up knitting!.. gheez!

 

[viv1969]

Ok i'll get her to take up knitting!.. gheez!

Just have her do it quietly

 

[big soft moose]

Ok i'll get her to take up knitting!.. gheez!

or even to do something useful with her time - hardly rocket science.

(i'm not saying that kids shouldnt enjoy the countryside btw - i'm just saying that its not a bad idea to be responsible and not pee off those arround them - theres a place for making a shed load of noise - but right outside smeones window isnt it)

 

[Cg_Girl]

or even to do something useful with her time - hardly rocket science.

(i'm not saying that kids shouldnt enjoy the countryside btw - i'm just saying that its not a bad idea to be responsible and not pee off those arround them - theres a place for making a shed load of noise - but right outside smeones window isnt it)

Useful? come on this is a public place, everyone uses it, parks are created to have fun let off steam! etc etc etc, from what i gather there was another lady in the park at the time that had no issue with them.... it's not like they was down a housing street at 10pm at night...

As i said i am not some gullible idiot that thinks all kids are sweetness and light.. but..

Sometimes it genuinely isn't the children at wrong! there are plenty of folk that just like to moan!

 

[Col]

No point in her taking up knitting. She seems to have already been judged!

I was much younger once .... Don't remember when though!

 

[Martyn D]

A lot of older people forget they were kids once and get a thril from moaning and playing the 'I'm older so you must respect me' card, what they forget is respect is not something they should demand but something they should show and hence get it back.
Maybe they did a bit of damage to the bridge in which case admit it but IMO some adult going all gun ho at a bunch of teenages is going to achieve nothing!
We have twins opposite us (aged about 10) who are pretty vocal, play football on the street, climb trees and the usual boy things, I may take a few pictures but they will show them enjoying themselves and enjoying their young life.
We live in the 21st century where things are very different and rightly or wrongly youngster put themselves on an equal level with adults and I've found you treat youngsters with respect and the majority will do it back.

 

[big soft moose]

Useful? come on this is a public place, everyone uses it, parks are created to have fun let off steam! etc etc etc, !

I thought you said it was a nature park (which is something entirely different) - if its a play park then fair enough run arround, make noise - just don't do it right under someones bedroom window if you don't want them to get peed off.

(I'm sorry if i'm coming over harsh and intollerant - but every summer sees hundreds of pounds worth of damage done by mindless vandalism - and most of it provably by children/teenagers - and in nearly every case the parents don't want to believe that the kids were doing anything wrong.

four kids throw 250 quids worth of chestnut stakes off a cliff - parents reaction "lighten up they're on holiday"

kids pull £750 worth of memorial bench off its anchors and wreck it by repeatedly jumping on the back - parents reaction " you should be pleased to see kids having exercise in the countryside "

Two kids caught levering up step boards with a crow bar
me - Excuse me lads what are you doing
them - we're getting wood for our fire
parents later - you've spoiled our holiday , they werent doing any harm

Kid caught red handed breaking the top off a memorial tree
Parents reaction - "oh jonny wouldnt have done that and he's upset that you thought he did"

Kids let sheep out on to road - parental reaction "they just wanted to look at them, why's it such a big deal"

and on and on and on

I know its not all kids or even a majority - but I am also heartily sick of parents who assume that their little darling is completely blameless and everyone is out to think the worst of them [/rant]

 

[Gremlin]

I was in the same situation a few years back with my daughter, someone saw a load of kids smashing bottles left outside the village hall after a party.
I got a letter from the management commitee saying someone had recognised my daughter, strange that because she was with me at the time elsewhere
Turned out they had heard a name called out and assumed it was her, I demanded a written apology and the name of the accuser who strangely had never seen my daughter :bang:
Oh and the real culprit denied being there too :shake:
Kids are kids and they do get up to mischief regardless of how good we think they are, and accidents do happen

 

[Cg_Girl]

I thought you said it was a nature park (which is something entirely different) - if its a play park then fair enough run arround, make noise - just don't do it right under someones bedroom window if you don't want them to get peed off.

(I'm sorry if i'm coming over harsh and intollerant - but every summer sees hundreds of pounds worth of damage done by mindless vandalism - and most of it provably by children/teenagers - and in nearly every case the parents don't want to believe that the kids were doing anything wrong.

four kids throw 250 quids worth of chestnut stakes off a cliff - parents reaction "lighten up they're on holiday"

kids pull £750 worth of memorial bench off its anchors and wreck it by repeatedly jumping on the back - parents reaction " you should be pleaed to see kids having exercise in the countryside "

Two kids caught levering up step boards with a crow bar
me - Excuse me lads what are you doing
them - we're getting wood for our fire
parents later - you've spoiled our holiday , they werent doing any harm

Kid caught breaking the top off a memorial tree
Parents reaction - "oh jonny wouldnt have done that and he's upset that you thought he did"

Kids let sheep out on to road - parental reaction "they just wanted to look at them, why's it such a big deal"

and on and on and on

I know its not all kids or even a majority - but I am also heartily sick of parents who assume that their little darling is completely blameless and everyone is out to think the worst of them [/rant]

It is a nature park but seeing as we are a village the kids use all parks here, as stated by all the locals it's better than hanging around bus stops and drinking etc.. the kids will sit in the stream (only a few inches) or we go pond dipping.. the schools use it here too for children to learn and occasionally.. it is a place for 'everyone' and not just for those without kids!

You are coming across harsh if i'm honest and i am surprising myself at how good i am being in biting my tongue (it hurts)

BUT...
I do see where you are coming from,(hence the tongue biting) i just hate that the good ones that are being good kids and not getting mixed up in drink/drugs are still accused because they are kids.simple
We have it here too, everything gets vandalised and it spoils it for everyone else, it was no different tho in my day, and i am sure it will still be the same in 20years time..

 

[Neil B]

I thought you said it was a nature park (which is something entirely different) - if its a play park then fair enough run arround, make noise - just don't do it right under someones bedroom window if you don't want them to get peed off.

(I'm sorry if i'm coming over harsh and intollerant - but every summer sees hundreds of pounds worth of damage done by mindless vandalism - and most of it provably by children/teenagers - and in nearly every case the parents don't want to believe that the kids were doing anything wrong.

four kids throw 250 quids worth of chestnut stakes off a cliff - parents reaction "lighten up they're on holiday"

kids pull £750 worth of memorial bench off its anchors and wreck it by repeatedly jumping on the back - parents reaction " you should be pleaed to see kids having exercise in the countryside "

Two kids caught levering up step boards with a crow bar
me - Excuse me lads what are you doing
them - we're getting wood for our fire
parents later - you've spoiled our holiday , they werent doing any harm

Kid caught breaking the top off a memorial tree
Parents reaction - "oh jonny wouldnt have done that and he's upset that you thought he did"

Kids let sheep out on to road - parental reaction "they just wanted to look at them, why's it such a big deal"

and on and on and on

I know its not all kids or even a majority - but I am also heartily sick of parents who assume that their little darling is completely blameless and everyone is out to think the worst of them [/rant]

Pete
Every year, same old story, my local nature reserve looks like a tip when the kids are off :bang:
I took the grand kids out(12&14) to the nature reserve the other day and out of the corner of my eye i noticed one of them throw a crisp packet.
The look on his face when we got back to the car (10min walk) and i told him to go back and get it was priceless
This is typical for school hols http://www.harrogateadvertiser.co.uk/news/crime/vandals-destroy-trees-on-harrogate-stray-1-5918146

 

[Cg_Girl]

No point in her taking up knitting. She seems to have already been judged!

I was much younger once .... Don't remember when though!

Long time ago for me... but she is a child so yes she is judged

A lot of older people forget they were kids once and get a thril from moaning and playing the 'I'm older so you must respect me' card, what they forget is respect is not something they should demand but something they should show and hence get it back.
Maybe they did a bit of damage to the bridge in which case admit it but IMO some adult going all gun ho at a bunch of teenages is going to achieve nothing!
We have twins opposite us (aged about 10) who are pretty vocal, play football on the street, climb trees and the usual boy things, I may take a few pictures but they will show them enjoying themselves and enjoying their young life.
We live in the 21st century where things are very different and rightly or wrongly youngster put themselves on an equal level with adults and I've found you treat youngsters with respect and the majority will do it back.

A little while back i worked voluntary at a youth centre we have here and respect was a big issue, but the biggest gripe kids had would be how the elder generation automatically assumed and could be very insulting..... if kids feel like they are going to be accused anyway it's almost like they think well we might as well do it... (not saying that is right btw)

I was in the same situation a few years back with my daughter, someone saw a load of kids smashing bottles left outside the village hall after a party.
I got a letter from the management commitee saying someone had recognised my daughter, strange that because she was with me at the time elsewhere
Turned out they had heard a name called out and assumed it was her, I demanded a written apology and the name of the accuser who strangely had never seen my daughter :bang:
Oh and the real culprit denied being there too :shake:
Kids are kids and they do get up to mischief regardless of how good we think they are, and accidents do happen

Oh of course they get up to mischief that goes without saying.. i think we all did too, sometimes it is nice to prove others wrong sometimes tho and say look see they were innocent!

 

[Martyn D]

Pete
Every year, same old story, my local nature reserve looks like a tip when the kids are off :bang:
I took the grand kids out(12&14) to the nature reserve the other day and out of the corner of my eye i noticed one of them throw a crisp packet.
The look on his face when we got back to the car (10min walk) and i told him to go back and get it was priceless
This is typical for school hols http://www.harrogateadvertiser.co.uk/news/crime/vandals-destroy-trees-on-harrogate-stray-1-5918146

That for me is part if the problem....with your actions Neil it showed that it's wrong to litter and hopefully it will not happen again in a hurry but then we have the other side, parents......the ones who throw litter, leave their rubbish, everything gets thrown on the floor, then if they leave the house it gets even worse
Maybe some will take offence at this but nowerdays having children for some is a way to have a better life as their weekly income increases with every birth, then the kids become a hinderence to their weekly life so they are sent out, out of the way and these parent don't give a toss what they're doing and where they are.
I think often people are quick to judge kids when judging the parents might be a better call.
As Pete has shown in his thread the kids wrecked things but just read what the parents reactions were.....says a lot IMO

Edit....reading through this don't think I'm saying you're a bad parent Trace.....just saying there's often a reason for why things happen to parks, reserves, public places etc that have been mentioned.

 

[Cg_Girl]

Ever wished you'd kept quiet?... I am lol

 

[Neil B]

Ever wished you'd kept quiet?... I am lol

Funny thing is when i look way back to my school hols at 14yr old i was no little angel and maybe some of us grumpy old men should be a bit more tolerant

 

[Pete Allen]

Yep, Close yer Gob girl.

Sorry, wrong thread.

 

[Cg_Girl]

That for me is part if the problem....with your actions Neil it showed that it's wrong to litter and hopefully it will not happen again in a hurry but then we have the other side, parents......the ones who throw litter, leave their rubbish, everything gets thrown on the floor, then if they leave the house it gets even worse
Maybe some will take offence at this but nowerdays having children for some is a way to have a better life as their weekly income increases with every birth, then the kids become a hinderence to their weekly life so they are sent out, out of the way and these parent don't give a toss what they're doing and where they are.
I think often people are quick to judge kids when judging the parents might be a better call.
As Pete has shown in his thread the kids wrecked things but just read what the parents reactions were.....says a lot IMO

Edit....reading through this don't think I'm saying you're a bad parent Trace.....just saying there's often a reason for why things happen to parks, reserves, public places etc that have been mentioned.

But Martin that's exactly what you saying....everyone seems very quick to judge:shake:

 

[Cg_Girl]

Funny thing is when i look way back to my school hols at 14yr old i was no little angel and maybe some of us grumpy old men should be a bit more tolerant

In some respects yes! i think we forget just what we was like as a teenager, but admittedly it does seem worse now... i think because kids know there is genuinely no authority with anyone... schools can't tell you off, parents can't give you a clip round the ear even police tbh compared to when my dad was younger, can't do an awful lot... hence loss of respect.....

But i stand my ground it's NOT all kids.... grumpy old men/women can be just as bad.. you only have to watch the programs and nod your head saying yeah yeah i do that now or whatever to see..

Yep, Close yer Gob girl.

Sorry, wrong thread.

good one!

 

[Martyn D]

But Martin that's exactly what you saying....everyone seems very quick to judge:shake:

What I'm saying is that people do judge but should be looking for reasons, as you said, your daughter was not ripping things to pieces hence why I added the edit.

I agree about people being very quick to judge teenages though, if there's more than a few of them they must be hooligans, thugs or doing drugs

Another edit.....anyway if you're going to have a go at me I'll be calling you Tracey...

 

[Gremlin]

But Martin that's exactly what you saying....everyone seems very quick to judge:shake:

I don't think that is what he is saying at all, k
kids are kids and I can remember what it I got up to
It wasn't my parents fault at all, more a case of out of sight out of mind
We have to accept that not matter how good an example WE as parents set, when kids get with others of their own age peer pressure can set in, we can only hope.
I had a few rules, my girls were allowed to swear in the house if it was justified but not at people or school and feed back told me they obeyed that rule, likewise I smoked and it would have been hypocritical to ban them but neither did and when their mates teased them about it they actually bought one lot home and asked in front of me if they could, gave them the answer that it would be better for them if they didn't but their choice, they chose not to

 

[kendo1]

Ever wished you'd kept quiet?... I am lol

Some here are giving you a hard time, tarring all kids with the same brush.
I'll believe you!

I know my kids would never have behaved like I used to

 

[big soft moose]

Some here are giving you a hard time, tarring all kids with the same brush.
I'll believe you!

I know my kids would never have behaved like I used to

i'm not tarring all kids with the same brush - many kids are at home, or out doing things with their parents, or relations, or out on organised activities , or even out in groups enjoying the countryside having fun and enjoying it responsibly

I'm not tarring any of those kids with the same brush

on the other hand some groups of kids are out screaming and shouting and generally misbehaving and being a PITA outside peoples houses or in nature reserves - those are the kids that i'm tarring with that brush, and I have no patience whatsoever left for the excuse that they are 'just having fun'

 

[Cg_Girl]

i'm not tarring all kids with the same brush - many kids are at home, or out doing things with their parents, or relations, or out on organised activities , or even out in groups enjoying the countryside having fun and enjoying it responsibly

I'm not tarring any of those kids with the same brush

on the other hand some groups of kids are out screaming and shouting and generally misbehaving and being a PITA outside peoples houses or in nature reserves - those are the kids that i'm tarring with that brush, and I have no patience whatsoever left for the excuse that they are 'just having fun'

Now i am sorry but i have tried to be polite but....

I am assuming you was never young?... never laughed and giggled with your mates.. you must have been a very very perfect child..

As for the bridge in the park, there are at least 3 that are all rotten and falling apart, she assumed... i was taught one should never assume

 

[Cg_Girl]

Some here are giving you a hard time, tarring all kids with the same brush.
I'll believe you!

I know my kids would never have behaved like I used to

why thank you muchly!


I did state if it was my eldest i wouldn't be having this conversation but my girl she is cheeky don't get me wrong, in a funny way but not naughty, i don't get any answering back from her, she even asked me at what age was it acceptable to swear

 

[nilagin]

Heaven forbid that kids should be allowed to make a noise in public.
I suppose they should only speak when spoken too as well whilst there at it.
I've never heard such a miserable response.

 

[Coley.]

I can understand the laughing and screaming about, the thing I don't get is lingerers. If you've got time to linger the inevitable happens and boredom soon follows. Lingering is bad for children. If they did misbehave but didn't linger around as much it wouldn't bother individuals quite as much- it would bother more people but a little less. we need less lingerers and more children that get up to a little mischief but move about more. Gps tracking is the future

 

[Cg_Girl]

Heaven forbid that kids should be allowed to make a noise in public.
I suppose they should only speak when spoken too as well whilst there at it.
I've never heard such a miserable response.

Lol yep... If I'd have known both my daughter and myself would be judged so badly I would never have posted tbh :-(

 

[andya700]

It is a nature park but seeing as we are a village the kids use all parks here, as stated by all the locals it's better than hanging around bus stops and drinking etc.. the kids will sit in the stream (only a few inches) or we go pond dipping.. the schools use it here too for children to learn and occasionally.. it is a place for 'everyone' and not just for those without kids!

You are coming across harsh if i'm honest and i am surprising myself at how good i am being in biting my tongue (it hurts)

BUT...
I do see where you are coming from,(hence the tongue biting) i just hate that the good ones that are being good kids and not getting mixed up in drink/drugs are still accused because they are kids.simple
We have it here too, everything gets vandalised and it spoils it for everyone else, it was no different tho in my day, and i am sure it will still be the same in 20years time..

To be fair, you are seeing the kids through "rose tinted glasses", we have all been there, all been a bit naughty in our youth.
The difference is with us older ones, if our parents had found out we were making a nuisance of ourselves then they would have punished us, and usually that would have been enough to discourage us in the future.
As Pete has correctly pointed out, too many parents nowadays seem ready to defend their offspring, even when they are in the wrong.

 

[Cg_Girl]

To be fair, you are seeing the kids through "rose tinted glasses", we have all been there, all been a bit naughty in our youth.
The difference is with us older ones, if our parents had found out we were making a nuisance of ourselves then they would have punished us, and usually that would have been enough to discourage us in the future.
As Pete has correctly pointed out, too many parents nowadays seem ready to defend their offspring, even when they are in the wrong.

To be honest i think you are all missing my point and judging.. which you can't do unless you know the kids in question and not tar them with the same brush....you are all making assumptions on them and theoretically me as her mum..

I have made it quite clear on numerous posts that i'm not saying kids are always sweetness and light.. i am well aware of the trouble kids cause in the village, some of it is down right shocking.

You are right i am and will defend my daughter in this case as much as possible, i know the state of these bridges she is talking about, they are rotten.. i have also mentioned there was another adult in the park that never had any issues and stated she didn't notice the kids doing anything wrong the whole time she was there.

I have also stated numerous times if it was my son, i wouldn't be having this conversation because in all honesty it wouldn't surprise me.. i am simply saying i know my daughters behavior and she certainly isn't destructive/rude or any such nature.. she stays in most evenings, isn't one to loiter the streets like a lot of teenage girls.

I also said i went to see the lady and asked if i could talk to her about it, i got the door slammed in my face.

It seems you are all seeing the word KIDS so they must have been them in the wrong and if its not there fault its mine as her parent..

 

[nilagin]

To be fair, you are seeing the kids through "rose tinted glasses", we have all been there, all been a bit naughty in our youth.
The difference is with us older ones, if our parents had found out we were making a nuisance of ourselves then they would have punished us, and usually that would have been enough to discourage us in the future.
As Pete has correctly pointed out, too many parents nowadays seem ready to defend their offspring, even when they are in the wrong.

To be fair, just like Pete, you're also tarring all kids with the same brush.
As kids, my sister, neighbouring kids and myself were all brought up to respect other people and other peoples property. We played cricket with a bat and tennis ball or played football out in the street from about 8 in the morning all day until there wasn't enough light. No cars got damaged, no windows got smashed, no flowers got trampled, but we made a noise all day long and no one complained.
Both my sons were brought up the same, sure they will have misbehaved, but they won't have made a nuisance of themselves and will treat others with respect.
Kids or youths making a noise isn't being a nuisance, it's called being young.

 

[On the Huh]

T, I get ya. Kids should have fun, even be a bit naughty ...just now and then....and only a little, nothing too bad. My kids are on the whole good, but get treated like BarryWhite cos so many old gits my age and above and some a bit younger too, tar them with the bad ones.

 

[Dave *]

I am mildly surprised that any long term user of the forum should have to ask whether its OK for someone to take photographs of other people when they are in a public place.

It's been debated to death from the other viewpoint (photographers being hassled for taking photos in public places).

Just goes to show, if even some photographers think taking photos in public isn't allowed, what chance do photographers have with the general public? :shrug:

 

[Cg_Girl]

I am mildly surprised that any long term user of the forum should have to ask whether its OK for someone to take photographs of other people when they are in a public place.

It's been debated to death from the other viewpoint (photographers being hassled for taking photos in public places).

Just goes to show, if even some photographers think taking photos in public isn't allowed, what chance do photographers have with the general public? :shrug:

I'm sorry but i think that is slightly unfair.. circumstances are slightly different than a harmless candid at a distance...

Does nobody here actually listen to what is stated? i did mention in my first post i quite happily shoot candid when i can. but i don't go up to kids faces especially without a parent around...

And i am pretty sure you would all want details of what happened if your kids came back saying the same