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jakeblu said:
Im afraid the Lion anology just doesnt cut it for me Rich, for obvious reasons, neither would wish to 'imprint' my children that violence is the answer. How you discipline children in your home is your choice Rich but for me hitting children is not something I am comfortable with. I realise that not everyone feels that way especially with my generation, my dad beat me regularily but then I was an arse through most of my teenage years but I personally see no advantage at all to resorting to violence when disciplining children. Like I said earlier Rich its just my opinion and I respect yours, I just think yours is wrong :)

Steve
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you are not resorting to violence - a small spank is not the same as beating someone or breaking woodspoons over their bums (thanks for that mum lol )
 
jakeblu said:
Im afraid the Lion anology just doesnt cut it for me Rich, for obvious reasons, neither would wish to 'imprint' my children that violence is the answer. How you discipline children in your home is your choice Rich but for me hitting children is not something I am comfortable with. I realise that not everyone feels that way especially with my generation, my dad beat me regularily but then I was an arse through most of my teenage years but I personally see no advantage at all to resorting to violence when disciplining children. Like I said earlier Rich its just my opinion and I respect yours, I just think yours is wrong :)

Steve
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I appreciate that Steve, but as you say you were an arse in your teenage years. Ok let me try to put my point over in another way, a couple I know have two small children two girls. The mother has most of the dealings with bringing them up, the kids are typical kids of their age, about 4 and 6 I think. So they might be asked to do something like pack a few toys away or whatever before she needs to take them out swimming for example. The mother will be asking and asking time after time with no response. It then goes into the, I will count to ten scenario, that dont work. Then the idle threats come, if you dont do as I ask we dont go swimming, waste of time because she has been there a hundred times before and the kids know that. The old man then starts to get worked up and starts shouting, I have seen his eyes glowing white with anger in the past, so he is now worked right up. I wonder how long it will be before he loses it completely. That is a totaly different thing, you are classing a small smack as violence, sorry Steve I do not buy that one. Like I say it is the initial early stages in a childs developement that they need to understand the boundries, and at the same time the parents need to know how to do that. What you end up with in the majority of cases, is that the parents have put up with it for so long that they crack, and that is when the real violence begins not just some little smack on the arse. Putting it another way.... Nip it in the bud. But yeh Steve we can agree to disagree mine are all grown up doing really well and have never been in trouble ;)
 
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I frequently bite my dog!!
 
u8myufo said:
Steve we can agree to disagree mine are all grown up doing really well and have never been in trouble ;)
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Yeah mine too Rich

Steve
 
POAH said:
I did that once when he bit me - mouth full of hair was most unpleasant lol
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I shaved mine before I bit it tho:)
 
Kids, I think it all went wrong when we stopped sending them up chimneys TBH :(
 
Cobra said:
Kids, I think it all went wrong when we stopped sending them up chimneys TBH :(
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yep - should be raised in a barrel and fed through the bunghole until they are 18
 
so 12 then - ready to go t' mill
 
Cobra said:
Kids, I think it all went wrong when we stopped sending them up chimneys TBH :(
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Have we?? Bloody hell. Wimmin'll be getting the vote next!!!
 
BRASH said:
Have we?? Bloody hell. Wimmin'll be getting the vote next!!!
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Sorry to tell you this, I was gutted when I heard too, but it seems that, that Emily Pankhurst women
didn't die in vain after all.
BRASH said:
You never wonder why your youngest boy looks like me?
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OUCH :D
 
I remember slapping the back of my daughters leg once(30 years ago for drawing on the wall and blaming the dog) after that the threat of a slap or in fact a raised voice was enough to get good behaviour. Todays kids get repeated warnings but nothing happens to them, it will only get worse-bring back the birch. 2p done.
 
Cobra said:
Sorry to tell you this, I was gutted when I heard too, but it seems that, that Emily Pankhurst women
didn't die in vain after all.
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Emmeline, actually. Common mistake tho.:rolleyes:;);)
 
Cobra said:
Google say both so :p
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Common misconception is she was called Emily but in fact, in her time, she never used that abbreviation herself. No need to thank me for yer wee history lesson;)
 
BRASH said:
Common misconception is she was called Emily but in fact, in her time, she never used that abbreviation herself. No need to thank me for yer wee history lesson;)
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But I do thank you :thumbs:
Like you, I like to collect completely useless pieces of information.
And I'm sure that it will come in handy at some point :thumbs:
 
Cobra said:
Sorry to tell you this, I was gutted when I heard too, but it seems that, that Emily Pankhurst women
didn't die in vain after all.
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Its the thin end of the wedge I tell you.. soon they'll be wanting equal rights and expecting men to do half the parenting and even (whisper it) housework , this needs to be nipped in the bud before it gets out of control
 
BRASH said:
Common misconception is she was called Emily but in fact, in her time, she never used that abbreviation herself. No need to thank me for yer wee history lesson;)
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Like the many of your countrymen who refer to Mr Burns as Rabbie...
 
Bringing back the birch & National service could sort a lot of the problems with the yoof of today........even at my ripe old age my Dad just has to look at me in a certain way & I know I've crossed a line.....frequently got a clip a round the ear as a youngster & it's done me no harm :)
 
Nod said:
Like the many of your countrymen who refer to Mr Burns as Rabbie...
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Ooo was he called Emily too then? :D

blondie606 said:
Bringing back the birch & National service could sort a lot of the problems with the yoof of today........even at my ripe old age my Dad just has to look at me in a certain way & I know I've crossed a line.....frequently got a clip a round the ear as a youngster & it's done me no harm :)
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Meh, dads are always too soft on their daughters, I know I am :D
 
too many generations without a father figure i,m afraid ,saw it all to often in twenty years of taxi driving ,unmarried or divorced mother not wanting to chastise the kids ,no man around to back them up ,so the kid gets away with it or mum thinks its funny or o.k ,typical scenario mum and a few kids get in taxi kid starts kicking back of my seat ,i politely ask can you please stop your child doing that ,not a word said the child stops for 5 minutes or less then starts again ,i ask again ,same again after another 5 minutes i lose it and snarl either fxxxing pack it in or you all walk ,never fails a bit of fatherly advice ,downside i don't get a tip from that fare .
and funnily enough the kids with the respect seem to come from the council estate scenario and the ones from the posh 2 hundred grand houses are the worlds worst .seen it all ,heard it all could literally write a book about human behaviour .and i was no goody goody growing up in the east end of london ,i was 10 before i found out my name wasn't you fxxxking little baxxard ,but when my dad said jump it was how high dad .:p:p
 
I think it depends on the situation. I can understand people not wanting to hit their kids but for some kids, it's the only option parents have left. Sometimes, parents are just as bad in that they don't say/do anything when their children misbehave. I suspect they don't give a hoot about what people think about them either.

I don't have children but I would happily smack them if required. Certainly it's a lot better than what I experienced as a child which would be classed as child abuse in this day and age.
 
The little runt should be leathered within an inch of his life.
 
Tigger.ufo said:
.......and so should his mother! :bang:
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indeed , its nearly always the parent who is to blame for the little buggers behaviour , whether that's not correcting, tolerating, encouraging or modelling bad behaviours
 
mid_gen said:
No, they don't. Some countries still have a culture of respect, particularly for elders.
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no, pretty sure all kids are wee s***s, just that some are big s***s.

being old does not = respect. had this exact conversation with my dad the other day. respect is earned.
 
POAH said:
......being old does not = respect. had this exact conversation with my dad the other day. respect is earned.
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Respect doesn't need to be earned otherwise our respect would be limited only to those we know or know of. Most people show respect to others, without it society would be unworkable.

Jakeblu aka Steve
 
It's that same with everything though, we have this ignore bad behaviour and reward good, I see it all the time with dogs.
Trouble is if you don't let them know what is bad behaviour they never know :(
People take it literally and don't realise the effects. I have 2 grown up daughters, they both knew that if I said no it meant eactly that
and although not hit they were denied privileges if they disobeyed.
 
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