I won't shoot gay weddings: am I odd?

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Good to see the thread still going. :thumbs:


marko400d said:
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As Samuel Taylor Coleridge said,

“I have seen gross intolerance shown in support of tolerance”

From the post above I now know exactly what he meant. :shake:
 
As an aside did anyone see John Barrowman on TV last night researching why he was gay? Really interesting programme and the latest research points to hormone levels in the womb. So it fit wholeheartedly with his own opinion that he was born gay.

So why on earth is it right to discriminate against someone on the basis of their sexuality, it's not like choosing a pair of socks!

I have friends who are same sex and I could no more turn my back on them as stop breathing.

I'm not even going down the religion route.
 
Look lets dig down and get to the real issue. My Nikon is clearly better than your Canon ;)
 
AliB said:
As an aside did anyone see John Barrowman on TV last night researching why he was gay? Really interesting programme and the latest research points to hormone levels in the womb. So it fit wholeheartedly with his own opinion that he was born gay.

So why on earth is it right to discriminate against someone on the basis of their sexuality, it's not like choosing a pair of socks!

I have friends who are same sex and I could no more turn my back on them as stop breathing.

I'm not even going down the religion route.
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Great Quote Hacker

Ivor asked a reasonable question, the title perhaps was a tad ill advised.

The world is a fast changing place in these times and we need to be tolerant no matter what our beliefs. I find myself a Christian with a gay brother, however it is not my place to judge so I just live my life as i think i should...whilst loving him...and his partner.

It's great that here on this site we are able to have the sort of conversation you might have with a group without being shot down in flames.

It seems that to take good photo's at a wedding you need to have a good rapport with the people attending. If you can't do that.. as eyeof skye said they probably wouldn't want you anyway and it's best you do something you're more comfortable with.
 
Trev Rich said:
I wasn't going to get involved in this thread but now you have crossed the line!!
Seriously though.. Would you take a photo of 2 Nikons? or would it be more natural being a Nikon and a Canon?:cuckoo:
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Now that is a very good question. Not sure the mounts of the Nikon and Canon would be compatible would they?! ;)
 
Personally, I think this thread should close before people fall out and someone says something they regret. It's kind of a pointless thread anyway; I mean would you start a thread saying "I won't photograph dogs.... am I a weirdo?" If you don't want to shoot a gay wedding then don't, simple as. Making the statement opens yourself up to the kind of "bigot" backlash shown in some of the posts. There's nothing to suggest that you are, but why open yourself up for that? To start a thread about it kind of makes people consider the motivation.

Everyone is entitled to their opinions and it's natural to feel discomfort in something outside your norm. Opinion doesn't make you a bad person, actions do. (I'm not saying anyone here is a bad person)

On the other hand it is healthy to discuss our inadequacies. But perhaps this isn't the best place for it.
 
Garry79 said:
Everyone is entitled to their opinions and it's natural to feel discomfort in something outside your norm. Opinion doesn't make you a bad person, actions do. (I'm not saying anyone here is a bad person)

On the other hand it is healthy to discuss our inadequacies. But perhaps this isn't the best place for it.
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Garry79 said:
Opinion doesn't make you a bad person, actions do. (I'm not saying anyone here is a bad person)
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Not to sure on that one at all.. And I have found this thread to be a very interesting read..
I don't think the OP is a bad person, even though I don't agree with him. I'm impressed he started the thread. As am I impressed it's still open.

But opinions don't make you a bad person? Don't agree with that at all.
 
Actually I don't think this is the wrong place for it at all, it's healthy adult debate and long may it continue, even if at the end of the day people agree to disagree I won't think any less of anyone for holding an opinion. It's only natural ;)
 
Trev Rich said:
Not to sure on that one at all.. And I have found this thread to be a very interesting read..
I don't think the OP is a bad person, even though I don't agree with him. I'm impressed he started the thread. As am I impressed it's still open.

But opinions don't make you a bad person? Don't agree with that at all.
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I stated that I didn't think anyone here was a bad person especially the OP. With regard to opinion then I believe that to be true.

Using the subject of this thread as example; someone may feel strongly against gay weddings. Does that make them a bad person? No it doesn't. What would make them a bad person would be acting on that opinion and forcing it on others. e.g. protesting against them.
 
Hacker said:
“I have seen gross intolerance shown in support of tolerance”
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I have several same sex couple friends and the word "tolerance" (in respect of their relationships) really riles them. Not in any way having a dig at you Hacker, it just reminded me :)

They can't give me an alternative that they'd find more acceptable though - and no, they don't like "acceptance" either.

AliB said:
As an aside did anyone see John Barrowman on TV last night researching why he was gay?
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Who is John Barrowman? :shrug:
 
AliB said:
Actually I don't think this is the wrong place for it at all, it's healthy adult debate and long may it continue, even if at the end of the day people agree to disagree I won't think any less of anyone for holding an opinion. It's only natural ;)
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As long as that is what it continues as. There's already glimmers of it descending into a childish slagging match. I'm all for healthy debate!:thumbs: Just don't want any falling out!
 
Garry79 said:
I stated that I didn't think anyone here was a bad person especially the OP. With regard to opinion then I believe that to be true.

Using the subject of this thread as example; someone may feel strongly against gay weddings. Does that make them a bad person? No it doesn't. What would make them a bad person would be acting on that opinion and forcing it on others. e.g. protesting against them.
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I understand what you mean completely, I just feel that was too much of a sweeping statement. Everyone is entitled to an opinion. Wether or not the opinion makes them a bad person or not is a different matter.
 
Trev Rich said:
But opinions don't make you a bad person? Don't agree with that at all.
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That's verging on the political correctness frame of mind...

No one should have any opinion or view that offends another, especially if the other person is the member of a minority, whether by dint of race, sexual orientation or religion.

Who defines what is a valid or correct opinion and what isn't? Discuss.
 
Ultimately this is a niche market that someone is going to make a nice living out of, although I don't advertise I have Weddings booked next year x5, so word of mouth works - even more so within a niche market I would say.

Don't have any same sex bookings but I am comfortable with it so would love the challenge if the chance came up, as I have said in a previous post, if you like fun people you can damn near guarantee they will be at a same sex wedding !
 
I have said this before and now seems a good time to bring it up again. I am a member of another photography forum... and it is a very different forum to this friendly place. I have stopped posting or participating in it's forums due to the very aggressive posts. Every post seems to degenerate into personal attacks and insult... I am thrilled to see that despite a potentially difficult topic, with the potential for major fall outs and upset, the forum and in particular this thread remains reasonable and above all friendly.
 
Chrispix said:
I have said this before and now seems a good time to bring it up again. I am a member of another photography forum... and it is a very different forum to this friendly place. I have stopped posting or participating in it's forums due to the very aggressive posts. Every post seems to degenerate into personal attacks and insult... I am thrilled to see that despite a potentially difficult topic, with the potential for major fall outs and upset, the forum and in particular this thread remains reasonable and above all friendly.
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Agreed entirely, and well done to the moderators for letting this one run it's course :thumbs:
 
Garry79 said:
I stated that I didn't think anyone here was a bad person especially the OP. With regard to opinion then I believe that to be true.

Using the subject of this thread as example; someone may feel strongly against gay weddings. Does that make them a bad person? No it doesn't. What would make them a bad person would be acting on that opinion and forcing it on others. e.g. protesting against them.
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Playing devils advocate here, surely the last part of the last paragraph means that Spudgunner is a bad person because he would not go to his cousins wedding. I must add that I in no way believe this is true and as said everyone is entitled to their views and I respect SpudGunner for standing by his belief and not going, even if I believe that it is wrong.
 
Trev Rich said:
I understand what you mean completely, I just feel that was too much of a sweeping statement. Everyone is entitled to an opinion. Wether or not the opinion makes them a bad person or not is a different matter.
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"An opinion should be the result of thought, not a substitute for it." - Jeff Mallett

I suppose those who inherit or take on opinions void of thought could be potentially be bad. Opinion should always be entirely your own and considered with it.
 
Trev Rich said:
I sort of explained what I mean above, what if the opinion was "In my opinion all homophobes should be shot?"
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But that is your Opinion , acting on it is a different matter... I hate Gay Pride Parades and find them an insult , straight people don't parade they are straight.

But that doesn't mean im going to go and shoot them all its just what i feel
 
Davec223 said:
Playing devils advocate here, surely the last part of the last paragraph means that Spudgunner is a bad person because he would not go to his cousins wedding. I must add that I in no way believe this is true and as said everyone is entitled to their views and I respect SpudGunner for standing by his belief and not going, even if I believe that it is wrong.
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As long as his actions did not force his opinion on others then fair enough. Perhaps his choice not to attend saved further potential tension. I'm in no place to comment on this, just stating my own opinion (which of course is open for debate).
 
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