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I know this seems like an FAQ. But I already have my own website, www.joshuathomson.co.uk, and it uses pixel post. I was just wondering how you would normally go about making a website without pixelpost, I have the server and url.

Is there a way of just designing a website and just uploading it? if so how...

or does anybody know how to add pages to pixel post?
 
Never heard of Pixel Post.

I used to just write my site thru MS Frontpage (so easy), copy the code then just FTP up through my CPanel.

Though now I use PHP throughout my site and, as far as I know, you can't use a WYSIWYG editor to do this, so I just take advice from fellow Weather Website enthusiasts.
 
Yantorsen said:
I know this seems like an FAQ. But I already have my own website, www.joshuathomson.co.uk, and it uses pixel post. I was just wondering how you would normally go about making a website without pixelpost, I have the server and url.

Is there a way of just designing a website and just uploading it? if so how...

or does anybody know how to add pages to pixel post?
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Well I'm guessing you're on a Mac, so Rapidweaver is a pretty nice program that I've been using for a couple of years, for 2 different sites.

But just recently I've started to build a new site with Joomla. It's a completely different kettle of fish, but far more versatile, and more convenient, 'cos you can actually edit it away from home, 'cos it's all server based. It's a steep learning curve, and after a few weeks, I'm only just starting to grasp it.

Any questions, just ask! :thumbs:
 
Never heard of Pixel Post.

I used to just write my site thru MS Frontpage (so easy), copy the code then just FTP up through my CPanel.

Though now I use PHP throughout my site and, as far as I know, you can't use a WYSIWYG editor to do this, so I just take advice from fellow Weather Website enthusiasts.
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so you just upload a text file from front page and save it onto your server with an FTP client?
 
Oli R C said:
Well I'm guessing you're on a Mac, so Rapidweaver is a pretty nice program that I've been using for a couple of years, for 2 different sites.

But just recently I've started to build a new site with Joomla. It's a completely different kettle of fish, but far more versatile, and more convenient, 'cos you can actually edit it away from home, 'cos it's all server based. It's a steep learning curve, and after a few weeks, I'm only just starting to grasp it.

Any questions, just ask! :thumbs:
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I'm actually on a PC, sorry, that was just a mod that did that :lol:


I was looking at joomla, and the templates for it and stuff, and it looks good, but I'm just hesitant to use it because If i delete pixelpost site off my server then find that I don't get on with joomla I'm gonna be annoyed becasue it took a while to setup my current site.
 
Yantorsen said:
I'm actually on a PC, sorry, that was just a mod that did that :lol:


I was looking at joomla, and the templates for it and stuff, and it looks good, but I'm just hesitant to use it because If i delete pixelpost site off my server then find that I don't get on with joomla I'm gonna be annoyed becasue it took a while to setup my current site.
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:lol: I started to wonder if it was the work of a fasicous mod!

Presumably you can back-up your current site. It's probably a case of just downloading it all, and keeping it on your hard drive. If you set something up that you don't like, you can just wipe it off, and re-upload your old site.

I wouldn't do it without confirming that though.
 
Oli R C said:
:lol: I started to wonder if it was the work of a fasicous mod!

Presumably you can back-up your current site. It's probably a case of just downloading it all, and keeping it on your hard drive. If you set something up that you don't like, you can just wipe it off, and re-upload your old site.

I wouldn't do it without confirming that though.
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its not that easy because you have to install the pixel post UI onto the server so I'd lose all my comments, and all my images would have to be re-uploaded etc. Atleast that is my thinking, because I had to install it to begin with, but maybe I could still just remove it all and it'd just remmeber settings and stuff? I'm not sure.
 
Yantorsen said:
its not that easy because you have to install the pixel post UI onto the server so I'd lose all my comments, and all my images would have to be re-uploaded etc. Atleast that is my thinking, because I had to install it to begin with, but maybe I could still just remove it all and it'd just remmeber settings and stuff? I'm not sure.
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Hmmm... You could be right. I'm not sure how pixel post works, so I can't really advise on that. It'd be handy to hear from anyone else that uses it.

Is there a database involved with pixel post? From what I can gather there isn't?
 
Oli R C said:
Hmmm... You could be right. I'm not sure how pixel post works, so I can't really advise on that. It'd be handy to hear from anyone else that uses it.

Is there a database involved with pixel post? From what I can gather there isn't?
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Yeah there is it uses MySQL.

I've tried the pixel post forums but there pretty much dead.
 
You should be able to archive off the entire database as a backup, so if you didn't like Joomla you could restore it. Joomla uses a jos_ prefix so it could be possible to use both - move the pixel post files into a subdirectory.
 
Matty777 said:
Though now I use PHP throughout my site and, as far as I know, you can't use a WYSIWYG editor to do this, so I just take advice from fellow Weather Website enthusiasts.
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Correct. There is nothing to see from the output of PHP except the unstyled things you make it echo. You then style the output from the PHP with XHTML and CSS.
 
andrewc said:
You should be able to archive off the entire database as a backup, so if you didn't like Joomla you could restore it. Joomla uses a jos_ prefix so it could be possible to use both - move the pixel post files into a subdirectory.
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Sounds like good advise.

You'd probably end up having a bit of down-time while you do it all though. Unless you started something fresh.
 
andrewc said:
You should be able to archive off the entire database as a backup, so if you didn't like Joomla you could restore it. Joomla uses a jos_ prefix so it could be possible to use both - move the pixel post files into a subdirectory.
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I'm not sure how to do this, my current site is my first propper site, so I'm not really sure how to do that.
 
I'm currently looking at Joomla, due to the extensions etc.
 
andrewc said:
if you installed joomla into http://www.yoursite.co.uk/joomla/ for development and testing, then your existing site should work fine.

Then you could put pixel post into www.yoursite.co.uk/pixelpost/ and copy the joomla files into the root directory.

Both should work fine.
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could I just keep my existing site as the same (www.joshuathomson.co.uk)

then create another directory for joomla www.joshuathomson.co.uk/anotherdirectoryname

and if I went on www.joshuathomson.co.uk it would just ignore the other joomla files?

not sure how to create directories though tbh
 
Oli R C said:
Oh yeah :bang: You could even run a site like that, and use the pixel post bit as your intro page. Many do this kind of thing already.
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yeah that seems like an idea, or even use the pixel post as the gallery still, hmmm
 
Oli R C said:
Yeah. That'd work. To create a new directory is just a case of using an FTP client, and you just literally add a new folder in your public/htdocs folder.
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andrewc said:
Yes.

You can easily create directories (or folders (I was brought up before they starting calling them folders)) using an FTP programme. Filezilla is free.
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ok, thanks both of you, I currently use FireFTP btw.
 
Oli R C said:
htdocs?

It's basically the folder where all your site is.
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nope don't have that either.

I have the following folders (they all have subfolders as well):

.cpanel
.htpasswords
.spamassassin
.sqmaildata
access-logs
etc
mail
public_ftp
public_html
tmp
www
 
Well in answer to your original question:

How do you make a website?

There are a lot of factors to consider, a basic site normally static would be made using XHTML and CSS,

And if your wanting some sort of management system, you install in on your server, and modify it to your needs, but depending on your needs depends on the type of management system you use.

What are you looking to do, would help with people giving you an answer?
 
Yantorsen said:
nope don't have that either.

I have the following folders (they all have subfolders as well):

.cpanel
.htpasswords
.spamassassin
.sqmaildata
access-logs
etc
mail
public_ftp
public_html
tmp
www
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Probably public_html. That's what I have with one of my sites.
 
faxtion said:
Well in answer to your original question:

How do you make a website?

There are a lot of factors to consider, a basic site normally static would be made using XHTML and CSS,

And if your wanting some sort of management system, you install in on your server, and modify it to your needs, but depending on your needs depends on the type of management system you use.

What are you looking to do, would help with people giving you an answer?
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I just want to bbe able to upload imges to it to a gallery, and have a few more pages and versitality than I get with pixel post.
 
ok that seems to have worked, now how do I go about installing/setting up joomla?

Thanks for all the help guys :)
 
There is not a out of the box system that will do exactly what you want, but with customisation and a bit of learning it is not that difficult to do what you want.

With me being familiar with blog systems such as wordpress and textpattern, with some customisation of the templates and using the publishing platform in the correct when it can be easily done,
With these types of systems, you can have as many pages as you want and they have the ability to have galleries with online upload facilities without all the hassle of such a huge system such as joomla.
 
Joomla is cool but hard work for a newbie as Oli has pointed out. To get the best from Joomla you must have a basic understanding of HTML, PHP and CSS (less of that if happy with templates as provided). An understanding of a hosted directory structure is also required as a mixture of FTP and "in-house" editing via Joomla gets best results.

Do you have Lightroom? You can create web pages straight from this program and add content via a range of templates such as Matthew Campagna's great Turning Gate work (www.theturninggate.net).

Wordpress is easy-peasy but not great for tog sites unless blogging is a primary goal.

Other CMS stuff exists but Joomla is hard to beat in the value/feature stakes.

:thumbs:
 
Guys, sorry to hijack this but I saw the title and thought 'great thats just the question I wanted answering'. However, I don't understand anything any of you have said, this is not your fault but mine, I am completely at a loss when it comes to such things as XHTML, CSS etc. Is there anywhere that explains in reaaallly basic ways how to set up a website?

Cheers

Andy
 
I looked at the lightroom option, but all of the themes that come with lightroom (i have lightroom 2 btw) seemed a bit boring/generic, so i kept with pixel post.
 
Andysnap said:
Guys, sorry to hijack this but I saw the title and thought 'great thats just the question I wanted answering'. However, I don't understand anything any of you have said, this is not your fault but mine, I am completely at a loss when it comes to such things as XHTML, CSS etc. Is there anywhere that explains in reaaallly basic ways how to set up a website?

Cheers

Andy
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Andy try here http://www.about-the-web.com/shtml/reports/internet.shtml for some basic information, should give you a good understanding that you are after, if not, try simple search in good

Matt
 
use joomla to build the pages around pixelpost then use a wrapper to get pixelpost in joomla.

or

php pages to build around PP to flesh it out. For what its worth, i think your site is very clean and tidy. Might even look at using pixel post myself when i next decide i have a website!
 
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