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So. This weekend I was down on the Jurassic coast, Dorset with my girlfriend taking some photos of the cracking locations that part of the coast line has to offer. Weather was a bit naff on Saturday, but stunning on Sunday. No hitches, no mishaps, no real dramas apart catching some really stunning light in places. Now on this trip, as you do, one meets and chats briefly to other photographers at what ever location you're at and the usual pleasantries are exchanged; flickr, weather, where you're from, etc etc. I really like this. I like meeting other like minded people and having a good old natter about this and that! It's how people should be to one another, and adds a definite positive extra dimension to the whole experience.

However.

What really ticks me off, is not when people don't want a quick chat, but instead when people (other photographers) are just outright rude and discourteous. For example. At a certain location, one photographer went and perched ones' self slap bang in the middle of a rather prominent shelf of rock and remained there until the sun had completely gone. Now, during this happening, a few other photographers went and asked, I believe, if he would be there all night, to which he replied "yes". This is despite there being at least 8 other photographers at the scene all wanting to catch a similar piece of the action. I should add at this stage that all said other photographers were on scene before this person went and perched. In frustration, and probably to make a point, the same people that asked this chap went and perched right in front of him. The best part was when this chap then went and asked them if THEY were going to be there all night! I find this rather hypocritical, and frankly the whole situation was rather pathetic. It really doesn't take much to all get along and generally have a bit of consideration for others!

I wont go into the details other other situations, but suffice to say that on no less then 2 other occasions, me or my girlfriend were met with short, curt and generally plain unfriendly responses to simple and friendly questions such as "Am I in your shot here?" or "Had a successful day?" or even "do you want to come past this way if that way is too slippery?" (on account of the nasty purple algae that is exceptionally slippery).

All I want to say is that it doesn't take much to be nice and friendly, even if in fact you don't want to stop and chat etc. Being pleasant with people is hardly an effort, and frankly it can really put a downer on other peoples day if you frankly just being a miserable sod. :shrug:

So, people of talkphotography! Be nice to one another, whoever you may be or meet. It's not hard, and can sometimes just make the difference to someones day. :)
 
totally agree!!

And i hope most people feel the same. I always get a little paranoid when taking night shots that i may get in someone's way. i'm forever checking over my shoulder, whether i'm there first or not, i dont want to unknowingly get in someone elses shot.
I just hope that if i am, that someone will politely let me know so that i can get out of the way :) just a bit of courtosy really.

i guess that's something to remember too, someone in the way may not always know that they are 'in the way'... but of course the situation that you have described, the guy is just an a$$hat!!!
 
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Of course it would be very wrong to take pictures of such people, and even more wrongerer to post them on, let's say, some forum or other, with a caption explaining what happened. Very wrong. Very.

Even if this was a public place and so therefore absolutely legal. Very, very, wrong. :nono:
 
Totally agree there is no need for it, if you are not one who likes to chat / is shy / in a grump, it's not difficult to still be pleasent and poilte - it's called 'Manners'
 
Some people are just out there to spoil other people's fun! Pains in the ass!!
 
I was brought up to treat people as I wish to be treated, although I've met with more than my fair share of people who are out to serve their own interests & couldn't care less for anyone else. Sometimes all you can do is take a deep breath, and let karma do it's thing ;)
 
I think it could be that it is this day and age, alot of people are buying cameras and getting the magazines so trying out different stuff BUT they are not "into" photography and are IMO just joe public with a camera, and we all know how joe public can be at times, we read it non stop on here about x y or z doing a b or c and not giving a damb about anyone else.

I always got told manners cost nothing and should be used when ever nessessary.

Paul
 
I would have incorporated them into the picture tbh, it would have added something different to the scene. And if there were 8 photographers already on location, I would have probably wandered off to a different spot...
 
I do tend to be nice to other photographer,sometimes its nice to have a chat.

But i must admit if i turned up at a spot,and found 8 other photographer,at one spot,i would move on quickly,and try and come from a diffrent angle :)
 
But i must admit if i turned up at a spot,and found 8 other photographer,at one spot,i would move on quickly,and try and come from a diffrent angle :)

Indeed, it just shows how unoriginal the shot would be and how much abuse you'll get on flickr/TP/wherever for showing it :lol::lol::lol:
 
Agree also and Im from Dorset and am known for grumpiness but I wouldnt be that rude!

Love it that 8 of you went and sat in front of him but you shouldnt have to should you.

Whereabouts were you on the coast out of interest? Doesnt sound like Durdle Door, one of the busiest photographic hotspots I suspect.
 
Jonny boy! You should have shouted to him... 'Do you know who i am?' :lol:

Some people just don't get the idea of 'getting along' - they think the whole world revolves around them. Still... look on the bright side... your girlfriend got to watch you taking photo's all day :lol:
 
Of course it would be very wrong to take pictures of such people, and even more wrongerer to post them on, let's say, some forum or other, with a caption explaining what happened. Very wrong. Very.

Even if this was a public place and so therefore absolutely legal. Very, very, wrong. :nono:

agreed :D


come down to Somerset, we're a friendly bunch down here and I promise I wont get into shot

Les :thumbs:
 
fair point and quite agree...........

I do remember once though being on Holkham beach taking some pics that provided some really nice images, looked around and there were 4 people behind me, trying to take the sme pic with P&S's - holidaymakers I guess, what was amusing was that they had absolutely no idea what i was intending to do with the image......... i can only assume thought process was "Big camera + filter + tripod" - must mean this is going to be good , we'll get one as well!"
 
Definitely agree, some people can really give you the hump. I've had other tog's come up and chat even when they haven't got a camera with them, it's nice to have a chat and they (normally) don't get in your shot or keep talking when you're about to shoot. On the other hand, I've had quite a few people (non togs) come over for a chat and not know when to stop. They think it's funny to stick their hand, face or ar@e in the way just at the crucial moment or make a lot of noise and scare your subject. It's a strange world!!
 
As a consolation be aware that you probably made this guys day! some people are so small minded that they actually get off on annoying other folk. He's probably small all over!:lol:
 
we went to Ashness Bridge, this tog just sat on the rocks for an hour or more he was on everyones shots (lots of moaning about him by lots of other togs) I sat waiting and waiting he didnt move so eventually I took my shot and cloned him out in PP, we then went down the the other side to get some shots as its better to have water flowing towards you, lo and behold he got up and came down with us :bang: luckily he didnt get in any of those shots
 
I know where you are coming from there!

Sure this happens in other hobbies as well, but it does seem rather common place in photography. Some people just seem to go out of their way to be a PITA, but I just learned to work around them or move on.
 
we went to Ashness Bridge, this tog just sat on the rocks for an hour or more he was on everyones shots (lots of moaning about him by lots of other togs) I sat waiting and waiting he didnt move so eventually I took my shot and cloned him out in PP, we then went down the the other side to get some shots as its better to have water flowing towards you, lo and behold he got up and came down with us :bang: luckily he didnt get in any of those
 
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fair point and quite agree...........

I do remember once though being on Holkham beach taking some pics that provided some really nice images, looked around and there were 4 people behind me, trying to take the sme pic with P&S's - holidaymakers I guess, what was amusing was that they had absolutely no idea what i was intending to do with the image......... i can only assume thought process was "Big camera + filter + tripod" - must mean this is going to be good , we'll get one as well!"

Sorry Lynton,I can't see your point,we're they doing you any harm,and lot of people start out with a P&S,if it had been me I would have just smile at them,and if I wanted to be by myself just moved on.
:)
 
Bad manners, selfish behaviour and a sense that your 'rights' override everyone else's. We were in Rome a year ago. January is quiet - by Rome's standards - but the popular sites still get pretty busy. My wife hadn't been there before so I took her to a few places early in the morning, before they got too crowded, but we still had to contend with large tour groups arriving. 30 or 40 people pushing and elbowing everyone else out of the way, to get to the best places for a 'snap'. Just the same in St Peter's basilica. You're allowed to take photographs - no restrictions as far as I know - but people will stand right in front of you to get their own shot as you're about to press the shutter.

American tourists get a bad rep for being loud/crass, but most of them were courteous and friendly. The main offenders were groups from Europe and the Far east.
 
My oly real experience of this was at the Eastleigh 100 railway works, a crowd of us all lined up to shoot an engine, plonker walks straight in front of all of us with his P&S, a shout of "Excuse Me" showed him the error of his ways. Mostly I've found people accomodating when shooting, but as in most things in life the majority are reasonable, with the few adding little to mankind.
 
... so there i was on the beach the other night doing some long exposures, and all these rude people kept wandering up and going ' you gonna be all night mate' I mean honestly can't these people go and find their own location rather than spoling my evening.....

:suspect: :lol: :exit:
 
agreed :D


come down to Somerset, we're a friendly bunch down here and I promise I wont get into shot

Les :thumbs:

OY! Somerset is MY place to take photos. You get your own county. :D
Sorry Jon , Less has a higher post count,so we are backing Him...:p
we went to Ashness Bridge, this tog just sat on the rocks for an hour or more he was on everyones shots (lots of moaning about him by lots of other togs) I sat waiting and waiting he didnt move so eventually I took my shot and cloned him out in PP, we then went down the the other side to get some shots as its better to have water flowing towards you, lo and behold he got up and came down with us :bang: luckily he didnt get in any of those shots

Dave, this guy on another forum just posted a picture of you getting in His shot.:D
 
... so there i was on the beach the other night doing some long exposures, and all these rude people kept wandering up and going ' you gonna be all night mate' I mean honestly can't these people go and find their own location rather than spoling my evening.....

:suspect: :lol: :exit:

:lol::clap:
 
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