Faceberk Down.

nandbytes said:
you don't get to choose what others get offended by or how they feel.
That was my point to Robin (just making the point that its helps to be sensitive and inclusive)
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Yes, my comment was not meant to be taken to seriously, just an observation!
 
Sky said:
Oh boy, how do you cope with life? You really need to grow some thicker skin if you wish to live among the human race.

Yes, I've met many people who choose not to eat for either cultural or religious reasons - I've even lived amongst them (and gone without meat while I was). I respect their choice, but I'd bet every single one of them would eat meat if it was a choice between that or starving to deat
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Having a thick skin and calling someone out on offensive remarks are different things. I think it's important to inform people than be a quiet bystander (doesn't I am walking around my room steaming by your remarks :ROFLMAO:)

you are going a bit extreme, of course many people (inc. myself) would picking living over death. But I am not in such a position and also doesn't mean I am rich.
 
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Sky said:
Bacon offends you? That's ridiculous - whether you're a veggie or not.

I love meat (I was designed to eat it after all), but I could never be offended by an item of food - even vegetables.

Having travelled to many, many countries in my life including lots in Africa, Asia and South America, there's not much I haven't eaten even if it was just to try it. Trust me, if you were really hungry, you'd eat meat - even rats. Vegetarianism is a luxury only rich people can afford.
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You are going a bit over the top there, @nandbytes only said he was offended to some extent and I can see he might be since it is there every day rather than as a passing flippant joke to be taken in good part. I don’t know the history of it but on the face of it I think @Cobra* might consider changing it?

* @Cobra is of course very thin-skinned but since he sheds and gets a new one from time to time, it doesn’t show ;),
 
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nandbytes said:
It actually offends me to some extent. I'm vegetarian.
But @Cobra put it there and i don't actually think I can edit it.
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2 and a half years later?
You could complained before now you know.
BTW it wasn't me that tagged you like that.
sphexx said:
I don’t know the history of it but on the face of it I think @Cobra* might consider changing it?
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As above it wasn't me that did that, but I could change it, if I can think of something better ....
 
nandbytes said:
you don't get to choose what others get offended by or how they feel.
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That is half the problem with a lot of discussions, people getting offended on someone else's behalf,
 
Cobra said:
That is half the problem with a lot of discussions, people getting offended on someone else's behalf,
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Which is not always a bad thing :)
 
Cobra said:
2 and a half years later?
You could complained before now you know.
BTW it wasn't me that tagged you like that.


As above it wasn't me that did that, but I could change it, if I can think of something better ....
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didn't offend me enough to want to complain about it :D (me getting a wee bit offended seems have offended some people more than the offence I took with that statement)
was trying to develop a thick skin as advised above to live among human race. :ROFLMAO:
but if you did change it to something less meaty, I would be happier.

Cobra said:
That is half the problem with a lot of discussions, people getting offended on someone else's behalf,
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I don't get offended on others behalf but I have decided that its not good to be a silent bystander either and let offensive things pass.
Intension is not to point fingers, just hoping to make human race a wee bit friendlier place to live with ;)
 
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sphexx said:
Standing up for those who can’t stand up for themselves for whatever reason?
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and half the time offending them in so doing?
 
@nandbytes don't get too comfortable or say anything stupid :D
 
Sky said:
Fixed that for you.
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I do vaguely recall that Mark Zuckerberg developed the idea of social media from one of his Harvard peers and I've been checking. I was unaware he was being sued for 'stealing' the idea.

www.ndtv.com

This Indian-Origin Man Sued Mark Zuckerberg For "Stealing" His Idea, Got Millions In Settlement

"You stole our idea" - the words echoed at a distance but caught his attention as he was busy drawing doodles on a note pad. He was physically there, but seemed pensive, elsewhere. His thoughts were back at his makeshift office at Harvard, where a tiny team working out of his dorm room in...
www.ndtv.com www.ndtv.com

From the link:

"You stole our idea" - the words echoed at a distance but caught his attention as he was busy drawing doodles on a note pad. Mark Zuckerberg glanced up to see Divya Narendra looking him in the eye, sitting two chairs to his right on the other side of the table. He suddenly found everyone staring at him, waiting for a response perhaps. There was a deafening silence in the conference room. Mark Zuckerberg was being sued for "stealing" the very idea of Facebook.

I found quite a lot more involving Eduardo Saverin a co-founder of FB https://www.businessinsider.com/how...o-founder-out-of-the-company-2012-5?r=US&IR=T

Zuckerberg's 2021 wealth is put at a staggering $134.5 billion according to Forbes.That's second place in the world's richest list and first is Elon Musk at $190.5 billion. Bill Gates 3rd at $134 billion.
 
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I do vaguely recall that Mark Zuckerberg developed the idea of social media from one of his Harvard peers and I've been checking. I was unaware he was being sued for 'stealing' the idea.

www.ndtv.com

This Indian-Origin Man Sued Mark Zuckerberg For "Stealing" His Idea, Got Millions In Settlement

"You stole our idea" - the words echoed at a distance but caught his attention as he was busy drawing doodles on a note pad. He was physically there, but seemed pensive, elsewhere. His thoughts were back at his makeshift office at Harvard, where a tiny team working out of his dorm room in...
www.ndtv.com www.ndtv.com

From the link:

"You stole our idea" - the words echoed at a distance but caught his attention as he was busy drawing doodles on a note pad. Mark Zuckerberg glanced up to see Divya Narendra looking him in the eye, sitting two chairs to his right on the other side of the table. He suddenly found everyone staring at him, waiting for a response perhaps. There was a deafening silence in the conference room. Mark Zuckerberg was being sued for "stealing" the very idea of Facebook.

I found quite a lot more involving Eduardo Saverin a co-founder of FB https://www.businessinsider.com/how...o-founder-out-of-the-company-2012-5?r=US&IR=T

Zuckerberg's 2021 wealth is put at a staggering $34.5 billion according to Forbes.That's second place in the world's richest list and first is Elon Musk at $190.5 billion. Bill Gates 3rd at $134 billion.
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I think there’s a 1 missing from Zuckerberg money, and sadly it’s at the beginning not the end -- $135 billion!
 
wow this thread is tedious
 
While some regular users of WhatsApp/Facebook are saying they managed OK and are carrying on regardless it’s worth noting that this reliance on a single behemoth was/might have been disastrous for some:

More than 8,000 miles away in Sindh, Pakistan, WhatsApp is a critical tool of commerce, especially for poverty-stricken rural villages that rely on very thin margins from livestock sales. Deep in the difficult-to-traverse Thar desert, connectivity is a precious rarity. Every day, one or two villagers travel for more than an hour to special wifi hotspots, armed with the single phone in the village and responsible for the communication and business needs of the community. There, they contact urban livestock buyers over WhatsApp and earn the entire village’s income for the day. “Those trips decide what the village will earn and eat for that day,” said Fariel Salahuddin, an entrepreneur in Karachi who founded Goats for Water, a startup in Pakistan that uses WhatsApp to facilitate commerce for smallholder livestock farmers in off-grid and drought-stricken villages in Pakistan. “If they arrive and the servers are down, even for a few hours, that would be an incredible setback for the community.”

“Luckily for us, the outage started at 9pm and went into the early hours of the morning,” Salahuddin said. “Had this happened during the day, it would have significantly held up work and been a massive crisis for many smallholder communities throughout Pakistan and the region.”

www.theguardian.com

For millions, the WhatsApp outage could have been a matter of life and death | Humza Jilani

Social media is a lifeline in many countries, and Facebook must do more to protect its systems from routine failures, says Project Lifeline leader Humza Jilani
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You don't think, just maybe, that might be, given the immense wealth and power of social media companies, just be a little bit of an exaggeration? A slight colouring of reality?

I'm not saying it is. I'm just wondering what those villagers did for the several thousand years before facebook and entrepreneurs in Karachi.
 
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Curious, is it not, that Facebook went down around the time a whistleblower was giving evidence to a US congressional committee?

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sirch said:
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Curious, is it not, that Facebook went down around the time a whistleblower was giving evidence to a US congressional committee?

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Do you mean the facebook one or the release of the Pandora papers?
TBH I'm surprised that no one picked up on Pandora
 
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simon ess said:
You don't think, just maybe, that might be, given the immense wealth and power of social media companies, just be a little bit of an exaggeration? A slight colouring of reality?

I'm not saying it is. I'm just wondering what those villagers did for the several thousand years before facebook and entrepreneurs in Karachi.
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No I don’t. You must have read hoe mobile phones have empowered peasant farmer in Africa etc in recent years enabling them to get better prices for their produce. That article is making the point that whatsapp (and Facebook too which is said to be synonymous with internet in most of India) fills the void where mobile phone coverage is absent.

I’m tempted to say up your comment is crass. I suppose you would say that those commuters being held up by the insulation gang should get out and walk to work as their ancestors did for millennia?

Edit, how not hoe!
 
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simon ess said:
You don't think, just maybe, that might be, given the immense wealth and power of social media companies, just be a little bit of an exaggeration? A slight colouring of reality?

I'm not saying it is. I'm just wondering what those villagers did for the several thousand years before facebook and entrepreneurs in Karachi.
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I agree, there's plenty of other free communication sites out there, whatsapp is certainly not the be all, end all ... that sounds a bit advertisey to me - Discord, Skype, Line, Free talk, Snapchat etc plenty of them out there and used frequent in the likes of Pakistan. I think they're savvy enough NOT to rely solely on one platform
 
Cobra said:
Do you mean the facebook one or the release of the Pandora papers?
TBH I'm surprised that no one picked up on Pandora
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I mean that I honestly would not be suprised if Facebook took it off line deliberately to remind legislators how many of their voters depend on it and what the backlash might be like if there was an attempt to regulate or break up Facebook
 
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sphexx said:
hoe mobile phones have empowered peasant farmer
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Great typo Richard :D

sirch said:
I mean that I honestly would not be suprised if Facebook took it off line deliberately to remind legislators how many of their voters depend on it and what the backlash might be like if there was an attempt to regulate or break up Facebook
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There was also the suggestion that it "went down" to hide the release of the Pandora papers.
Perhaps it severed both purposes.
 
Cagey75 said:
I agree, there's plenty of other free communication sites out there, whatsapp is certainly not the be all, end all ... that sounds a bit advertisey to me - Discord, Skype, Line, Free talk, Snapchat etc plenty of them out there and used frequent in the likes of Pakistan. I think they're savvy enough NOT to rely solely on one platform
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Judging from people I know, who are savvy in other respects, they won’t, and haven’t even now, installed other apps like Signal to cover outages. And of course it depends on the person you are trying to call having them installed!
 
sphexx said:
Judging from people I know, who are savvy in other respects, they won’t, and haven’t even now, installed other apps like Signal to cover outages. And of course it depends on the person you are trying to call having them installed!
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I like to think that people in Pakistan are no less savvy than us here in the whesht, I am certain they do not rely solely on one app for business, that would be madness.
 
Cobra said:
b****r :LOL:

But maybe it did sever both items from being "talked about" :D
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That was it‘s “greatness“ :(, echoing your comment on mine too :(.
 
Cagey75 said:
I like to think that people in Pakistan are no less savvy than us here in the whesht,
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But that’s more or less what I was saying :(.

Cagey75 said:
I am certain they do not rely solely on one app for business, that would be madness.
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Even so, if you have no concept of what it’s like living from day to day on the edge :(. A comparable case here might be the current plight of pig farmers but at a higher economic level. Farming can’t just stop Like car production or something.
 
Be grateful to the grammar nazis and be careful with your punctuation when you post on Facebook or maybe even TP! :)

A real estate agent’s failure to use an apostrophe in a Facebook post could prove costly after a New South Wales court declined to dismiss a defamation case against him on the basis it was trivial.

… last year, Anthony Zadravic posted that another real estate agent was “selling multi million $ (sic) homes in Pearl Beach but can’t pay his employees superannuation”

Judge Judith Gibson said the difficulty for Zadravic was the use of employees in the plural as it suggests “a systematic pattern of conduct”.

“To fail to pay one employee’s superannuation entitlement might be seen as unfortunate; to fail to pay some or all of them looks deliberate.”

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www.theguardian.com

Missing apostrophe in Facebook post lands NSW real estate agent in legal hot water

Court declines to dismiss defamation case against Anthony Zadravic, who said failure to punctuate social media post was trivial
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sphexx said:
Be grateful to the grammar nazis and be careful with your punctuation when you post on Facebook or maybe even TP! :)

A real estate agent’s failure to use an apostrophe in a Facebook post could prove costly after a New South Wales court declined to dismiss a defamation case against him on the basis it was trivial.

… last year, Anthony Zadravic posted that another real estate agent was “selling multi million $ (sic) homes in Pearl Beach but can’t pay his employees superannuation”

Judge Judith Gibson said the difficulty for Zadravic was the use of employees in the plural as it suggests “a systematic pattern of conduct”.

“To fail to pay one employee’s superannuation entitlement might be seen as unfortunate; to fail to pay some or all of them looks deliberate.”

my bold

www.theguardian.com

Missing apostrophe in Facebook post lands NSW real estate agent in legal hot water

Court declines to dismiss defamation case against Anthony Zadravic, who said failure to punctuate social media post was trivial
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.... This is typical of a newspaper creating stories which make mountains out of molehills and especially because Facebook is currently a flavour of the month (or week).

In legal terms and consequently contested court cases the use of punctuation is viewed as critical to the meaning. That is why historically many legal documents have no punctuation whatsoever apart from the start of a new sentence.
 
ShinySideUp said:
Nothing wrong with Grammar Nazis, the last bastions of proper parts parts of speech in a society infected with 'could of's' and 'for free's'.
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:agree: I wish there was more care taken by people both in their written word and in speech.
 
RedRobin said:
.... This is typical of a newspaper creating stories which make mountains out of molehills and especially because Facebook is currently a flavour of the month (or week).
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I don’t think that’s correct here, it’s an Australian story in a Australian newspaper and obviously a useful warning to the public who publish (because they are the publishers as the law stands) accusations on Facebook or other social media,

RedRobin said:
In legal terms and consequently contested court cases the use of punctuation is viewed as critical to the meaning. That is why historically many legal documents have no punctuation whatsoever apart from the start of a new sentence.
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Indeed, though also to make them incomprehensible to non lawyers and preserve the mystique! But this was not a legal document.
 
Marc said:
They could point out your erroneous use of apostrophes as well. :D
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Though I gave him a pass after I read it as that’s a difficult construction anyway and I’m not sure how one could do much better. :thinking:

Edit. I think he should’ve just not made them plurals. Thus: … infected with could of and for free.
 
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