F1 season 2015

Verstappan vs Grosjean
Ver says gros brake checked him
gros says ver tried a weird overtake
Stewards say 5 place drop canada and 2 points on Vers licencense
Personally I am slightly on Vers side I think he was getting out of the way of gros's rear end I just thought at the time that the positioning of gros looked odd
 
Since when has Monarco become the pinnicle of F1 as the media are trying to make us believe or has the show really become more important
The circuit that all the drivers want to race on WTF Whilst they moan that there is a lack of overtaking in F1 how in hell is monarco a brilliant cct
Its only brilliant for the jewellry rattling champers drinking, boat people
 
It's handy for a few of the drivers too - they can walk from home to work!
 
Monaco is a shocking GP, dull as dishwater.
 
I was surprised by the penalty for Verstappen. I thought Grojean had braked early, but that's my view from the TV. I have to accept the stewards will have a better view and more information, and know a lot more than me.

Dave
 
Tringa said:
I was surprised by the penalty for Verstappen. I thought Grojean had braked early, but that's my view from the TV. I have to accept the stewards will have a better view and more information, and know a lot more than me.

Dave
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Difficult to say from TV footage, but the telemetry data will be able to show Grosjean's breaking points for previous laps. I would presume that the stewards would have access to the data.
 
FlyTVR said:
Difficult to say from TV footage, but the telemetry data will be able to show Grosjean's breaking points for previous laps. I would presume that the stewards would have access to the data.
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The data apparently shows grosjean braked 5 meters later than normal
Which begs the question how hard and why but also means verstapen should have been able to avoid him even if it did look like grosjean was going wide
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/119187
 
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2015 FORMULA 1 GRAND PRIX DU CANADA


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Montreal
Lap length 4.361km (2.71 miles)
Race laps 70
Race distance 305.27km (189.686 miles)
Pole position Left-hand side of the track
Lap record* 1’13.622 (Rubens Barrichello, 2004)
Fastest lap 1’12.275 (Ralf Schumacher, 2004, qualifying two)
Maximum speed 309kph (192.004 mph)
DRS zone/s (race) Pit straight and back straight
Distance from grid to turn one 260m
Car performance
Full throttle 59%
Longest flat-out section 1190m
Downforce level Medium
Fuel use per lap 1.5kg
Time penalty per lap of fuel 0.03s

Schedule
Friday 5th June 2015
Canadian Grand Prix Free Practice 1: 10:00-11:30 (UK time: 15:00-16:30)
Canadian Grand Prix Free Practice 2: 14:00-15:30 (UK time: 19:00-20:30)
Saturday 6th June 2015
Canadian Grand Prix Free Practice 3: 10:00-11:00 (UK time: 15:00-16:00)
Canadian Grand Prix Qualifying: 13:00 (UK time: 18:00)
Sunday 7th June 2015
Canadian Grand Prix: 14:00 (UK time: 19:00)

Previous Winners
2014 Australia Daniel Ricciardo Red Bull-Renault
2013 Germany Sebastian Vettel Red Bull-Renault
2012 United Kingdom Lewis Hamilton McLaren-Mercedes
2011 United Kingdom Jenson Button McLaren-Mercedes
2010 United Kingdom Lewis Hamilton McLaren-Mercedes
2009 Not held
2008 Poland Robert Kubica BMW Sauber
2007 United Kingdom Lewis Hamilton McLaren-Mercedes
2006 Spain Fernando Alonso Renault


Massa on board 2014
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nQPXz9x3AWE


Patrick Depailler on board 1978
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fYJs8BSFKzg


Facts and Figures from the last race

Nico Rosberg was the first driver to win three consecutive races at Monaco since Ayrton Senna who won five in a row between 1989 and 1993.

Rosberg joins a select group of drivers who won F1’s most famous race three times or more. They include Senna (six wins), Michael Schumacher and Graham Hill (five), Alain Prost (four), Stirling Moss and Jackie Stewart (three each).

It was Rosberg’s tenth career win, putting him level with James Hunt, Ronnie Peterson, Jody Scheckter and Gerhard Berger.

Hamilton led at Monaco for the first time since 2008, when he last won it. 2008 was also the last time the race was not won by the pole sitter.

This was Hamilton’s 43rd career pole position – two more will see him equal Sebastian Vettel, who has more than any other driver currently competing.

Despite his disappointment, Hamilton sustained his streaks of consecutive front row starts (14) and podium finishes (13). It was also the 25th consecutive podium finish for Mercedes. They are only the second team in F1 history to reach this milestone, yet they are not even halfway towards equalling the record held by Ferrari. The Scuderia had at least one car on the podium for 53 races from 1999 to 2002.

Mercedes established a new record as for the 25th race in a row the pole sitter was powered by one of their engines. This streak began at the start of last year: the only pole set by a non-works Mercedes since then was Felipe Massa’s in Austria last year.

For the first time since the end of 2013 no Williams driver finished in the points, ending their 24-race-long streak of scoring.

Jenson Button gave McLaren their first points score this year. These were also the first points for a McLaren-Honda since Berger concluded their previous partnership with victory at Adelaide in 1992.

Daniil Kvyat finally improved on his career-best finish of ninth, which he’d managed five times before, by taking fourth place.

Kimi Raikkonen is now the only driver to have participated in every qualifying session this year without beating his team mate.


Current Standings

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Well it only takes a little time for common sense to sink in
Out goes refueling
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/119318
Now we just need Bernie to find a way of abolishing the stratergy group (I am sure the stratergy group was a point that the european community were looking at) and joing forces with Jean Tod and then both of them vanishing leaving F1 to sort itself out without reverting to the past and going round in circles
 
Another strange decision by Mercedes to put Lewis out when conditions were questionable !
 
Big Andy said:
Putting him out was odd, putting him out on intermediate tyres was madness.
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Mercedes are aware of the fans and putting thier cars out when nothing was happening was appreciated by the fans there plus practising starts and clutch adjustments
Inters was odd but they are getting a reputation for odd decsions that turn out wrong
 
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The interesting bit about Lewis crashing in practise was his words that it wasnt his decision to go out
Ive not heard this from him before, which makes you wonder how much input he had in the Monarco debacle
 
Well that race was a joke for McLaren and The Might of Honda .
 
97 litres of fuel used for most cars, that was tight. Lewis had that in his hand, could keep Rosberg behind anytime he pushed.
 
Just shows what happens when tyre wear is good and not too artificial
Just needs fuel sorting and we are back to proper racing
 
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We need F1 back and I mean it needs to be thee "number one formular " !!! In motor racing . I like this talk of more power ,faster cars ,radical looking designs . F1 drivers are not challenged in F1 these days ,listen to Lewis and others ,their best part of race weekend is the qualifying lap ,that's their biggest buzz driving to the absolute limits of the car and track ,they can't do this on race day because of tyre deg or having to save fuel .
 
mxfun said:
We need F1 back and I mean it needs to be thee "number one formular " !!! In motor racing . I like this talk of more power ,faster cars ,radical looking designs . F1 drivers are not challenged in F1 these days ,listen to Lewis and others ,their best part of race weekend is the qualifying lap ,that's their biggest buzz driving to the absolute limits of the car and track ,they can't do this on race day because of tyre deg or having to save fuel .
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Tyre degregation will always be a factor but not artificaly so A tyre that lasts all the race might and most likley will be not be the fastest tyre but not to design the best tyre for the job is against all F1 principals of best of the best and to be forced to run the second best tyre beggers belief
Fuel conservation has always been there it was a trade off the least fuel carried for the fastest lap times but now its manditory to lift and coast to get to the end of a race
The fastest of the slowest wins not F1by a long chalk
 
A tyre war would fix that problem & spice up the show, but I fear that Bernie won't want to upset Pirelli.

Most teams are on board for more power, but want extra downforce too. I think that too much downforce has hurt the racing, over the years, with the engineers perfecting the ability to hamper the following car getting close enough to challenge. It's also shortened braking distances.

More power, less downforce, more mechanical grip would suit me.

I'd also like to see the back of the Blue flags, & pitlane speed limits.....but I'm not holding my breath!
 
Michelin was the tyre company looking at F1 but wanted bigger wheels, which isnt going to happen wider maybe but not taller Pirelli are slowly getting back to more durable tyres
Blue flags and pitlane speed limits both serious safety issuses I arnt into spicing up the show with crashes
 
I don't see why the overall wheel/tyre diameter should change. All the time you have a single supplier you obviously have no differential for teams to exploit.

Blue flags just negate the need for the skill of being good through traffic, which in turn maintains the order in the race. Another overtaking chance gone missing.

I don't remember that many crashes in the pits, or whilst lapping.
 
Given that half the marshal posts in Canada just seemed to show the blue flags to any two cars close together they are pretty pointless as it is.

The pit land speed limit being removed wouldn't help improve the racing in anyway I can see? Watch some of the classic races on Sky F1 and it is insane (and not in a good way) watching them going full pelt down a pit lane skimming the ankles of the other teams (especially in Monaco).
 
Yep, I realise neither rule will be changed, just think they have removed some of the much needed spectacle.

I love watching the old style pit stops!
 
2015 FORMULA 1 GROSSER PREIS VON ÖSTERREICH


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Spielberg
Lap length 4.326km (2.688 miles)
Race laps 71
Race distance 307.02km (190.773 miles)
Pole position Left-hand side of the track
Lap record* 1’08.337 (Michael Schumacher, 2003)
Fastest lap 1’07.908 (Michael Schumacher, 2003, qualifying one)
Maximum speed 301.5kph (187.343 mph)
DRS zone/s (race) Pit straight and second straight
Distance from grid to turn one 185m

Schedule
Friday 19th June 2015
Austrian Grand Prix Free Practice 1: 10:00-11:30 (UK time: 9:00-10:30)
Austrian Grand Prix Free Practice 2: 14:00-15:30 (UK time: 13:00-14:30)
Saturday 20th June 2015
Austrian Grand Prix Free Practice 3: 11:00-12:00 (UK time: 10:00-11:00)
Austrian Grand Prix Qualifying: 14:00 (UK time: 13:00)
Sunday 21st June 2015
Austrian Grand Prix: 14:00 (UK time: 13:00)

Previous Winners
2014 Germany Nico Rosberg Mercedes Red Bull Ring
2013-2004 Not held
2003 Germany Michael Schumacher Ferrari A1-Ring
2002 Germany Michael Schumacher Ferrari
2001 United Kingdom David Coulthard McLaren-Mercedes
2000 Finland Mika Häkkinen McLaren-Mercedes
1999 United Kingdom Eddie Irvine Ferrari
1998 Finland Mika Häkkinen McLaren-Mercedes
1997 Canada Jacques Villeneuve Williams-Renault


Massa on board 2014
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0GrI6f0av9Y


Schumacher on board 1997
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ni5WzvSaVeA


Facts and Figures from the last race

Lewis Hamilton could equal a record which has stood for 45 years at the next round of the championship.

Hamilton’s victory in Canada means he has now led 16 races in a row, beginning with the Hungarian Grand Prix last year. He needs one more to match the record of 17 set by Jackie Stewart between the 1968 United States and 1970 Belgian Grands Prix.

The championship leader led all bar one of the 70 laps at the Circuit Gilles Villeneuve. His career total now stands at 2,143, moving him ahead of Nigel Mansell. Only four drivers have led more laps: Michael Schumacher, Ayrton Senna, Alain Prost and Sebastian Vettel.

Along with his 37th win Hamilton took his 44th career pole position – appropriately for the driver of car number 44 – which moved him within one of the driver in third place on the all-time record list. That is Sebastian Vettel, who with 45 pole positions has the most of any driver currently competing.

Hamilton also equalled Vettel’s best run of consecutive front row starts with his 14th. But he needs to keep going for ten more races to equal the record set by Ayrton Senna. That would take Hamilton until the Mexican Grand Prix in November.

Hamilton’s victory gave Mercedes their first win in Canada and their 35th win in total. That puts them level with Renault and Brabham in sixth place on the all-time winners’ list. Second place for Nico Rosberg gave Mercedes their 20 one-two finish.

Third on the grid for Kimi Raikkonen was his best in over two years, when he was second for Lotus at Shanghai in 2013. Lotus also had their best two-car qualifying performance since 2013 – fifth and sixth the highest they’ve seen since Hungary that year. For Pastor Maldonado, sixth was his best since he lined up third at Abu Dhabi in 2012.

Raikkonen also out-qualified Vettel for the first time this year. Roberto Merhi did the same to Will Stevens, which means there are no drivers on the grid who haven’t out-qualified their team mate at least once this year.

In the race, Raikkonen set the fastest lap for the 42nd time in his career. That puts him on his own in second place on the all-time ranking, with one more than Prost and needing 25 more to catch Schumacher.

Valtteri Bottas became the first driver not in a Mercedes or a Ferrari to finish on the podium this year. And Pastor Maldonado scored his first points of the second, leaving only the Manor drivers and Fernando Alonso yet to score.

Current Standings

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I had to laugh at Q3, Hamilton makes a mistake on his final lap so Rosberg has to outdo him with an even bigger mistake.
 
I don't see the point in giving 25 place penalties. It rather spoils the show if a team may as well not bother showing up
 
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I don't see the point in giving 25 place penalties. It rather spoils the show if a team may as well not bother showing up
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I dont think anyone expected the complexities of the pu I expect next year it will be addressed
 
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mxfun said:
About time the big guns in f1 speak there minds instead of the Chinese whispers that haunt the pitlane. F1 needs a shake up more than ever ,maybe this is it
http://autoweek.com/article/formula-one/red-bull-racing-owner-blasts-formula-one-his-own-home-race
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Its old talk
Do you think if Renault made a superior engine he would be whining because he didnt when Red Bull were consistantly winning
What would you think about Red Bull as a product if they walked because they couldnt win, poor losers
Whilst ever people talk about F1 as a show and not a race there is no hope
Whilst ever the inmates are running the asylum there is no hope
Only the FIA can sort this and Jean Todt is walking about like Peter Brady without his bandages
 
Changes will come ,as for the sore losers comment ,think your wide off the mark . Wait and see
 
Changes I have no doubt will come
The tv audiences are down (which coincidentally accelerated on the introduction of pay to view cutting out the passive viewer)
The trackside customers are down. Not suprisingly when austerity and high prices are taken into account
There are more pressing things need a change than whats on track
Dietrich is only interested in fizzy pop and the reflection of F1 on his product ( Horner said that Renault under performing was reflecting on the product)
If he leaves F1 he wont be the first team to leave
As for poor losers they wernt all that gracious at winning I seem to remember, twisting bending and crossing the line of cheating to win
Whinging if things didnt go there way
I wont be sorry if they leave but I bet Renault dont go, only to another team
 
Mates***z rumor is he wants to buy cvc the commercial rights holders so he can alter the rules to suit fairness for Red Bull
http://www.grandprix.com/ns/ns31226.html
Horner wants Brawn to be an independent adviser so the rules can be set for fairness so reno and honda can catch up merc and ferrari
 
Leaving aside F1 for a moment :p , the 24h of Le Mans was excellent this year, and because one of the winning team was a current F1 driver it actually got talked about.

Manufacturer support in LMP1 is really good at the moment, but it could do with more independent runners in that category. Martin Short on the podium with the Rollcentre car a few years back is one of my favourite things that has happened in motorsport ever. Given there was no realistic possibility of Rebellion winning, I was supporting the Audi no.7, but a couple of problems set them back far enough that the lost time couldn't be made up, and Porsche were pretty much faultess and very quick for the whole event.
 
Slimbert said:
Seems more like a step to the side rather than forward but Bernie has to leave at some point....

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-33249041
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Dont count on Bernie leaving although Horner of late has been making the right noises for next in line
There is even a rumor that Red Bull are about to do a Ferrari and sack and replace all there top men but then its only a rumor
At the moment these are only bits of a jig saw puzzle and when put together probably makes a picture that only Picasso can understand

If you wish to read more on the subject
https://joesaward.wordpress.com/
The last lines of someone else could well be mates***z
 
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