Doing a Wedding HELP.

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PsiFox said:
I don't but simplicity and laziness come to mind. Of course a professional in any trade anywhere would never resort to either of those.
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My point being what difference does it make. if you shoot manual then you choose the aperture you want and then judge what speed is correct. So unless you want to over or under expose for white or dark objects-ap does the same thing anyway. just means you dont have to move the tog wheel for the speed.

Ive got to admit I have gone to full manual now-but if im just walking round shooting something in general use ap so i know i wont miss it. if im shooting the same type ofthings of course Quick shots donthave time to adjust speed.
 
I'm going to say this once and once only.

If anyone on here can't discuss something in an adult and respectful manner, go and find another forum to play on. I don't normally threaten the banning stick, but if I see more personal attacks and rudeness, this thread will be closed along with some accounts, that goes for BOTH sides of this little 'argument'.
 
Marcel said:
I'm going to say this once and once only.

If anyone on here can't discuss something in an adult and respectful manner, go and find another forum to play on. I don't normally threaten the banning stick, but if I see more personal attacks and rudeness, this thread will be closed along with some accounts, that goes for BOTH sides of this little 'argument'.
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Well said :thumbs:
 
andrewc said:
I think Duncans wedding photos are fantastic. He wasn't about when I got married. Its almost worth getting divorced and remarrying her :)
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Arrrg too many replies going on - could someone kindly tell me who Duncan is, or post a link to his wedding shots please?
 
digitalmaniac said:
My point being what difference does it make. if you shoot manual then you choose the aperture you want and then judge what speed is correct. So unless you want to over or under expose for white or dark objects-ap does the same thing anyway. just means you dont have to move the tog wheel for the speed.

Ive got to admit I have gone to full manual now-but if im just walking round shooting something in general use ap so i know i wont miss it. if im shooting the same type ofthings of course Quick shots donthave time to adjust speed.
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Think you mis understood. I'm not saying auto is wrong:)
 
WeddingHack said:
I know several pros that shoot on P through choice the whole day, and turn out good stuff with it. It's not because they don't understand how to use their camera, it's because they understand very well how the camera operates in P mode and fit their shooting around that.

At a Joe Buissink seminar (american celeb photographer) he claimed to work on P for most of the day. His minimum fee is $10,000.
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That's a very good point.

My last non-digital SLR was a Minolta Dynax, and the response of the programmed modes was documented very well in the manual. So I knew exactly how the camera would trade off shutter-speed and aperture in any given situation, and I knew when that would work for me and when it wouldn't.

I'm sometimes frustrated by the lack of documentation of the Canon programmed modes. I wish they were documented properly, so I could know when I could safely use them (ie when they would make the same kind of decisions I would) and when not. If I were a professional and people were paying me to get results, I think I'd probably set some time aside to work it out for myself. But nobody is paying me, so it's not that important to me.
Chillimonster said:
So to be "Professional" you need to stay out of [P] mode :shrug:

I thought it was results that counted :thinking:
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Absolutely. (So long as the results can be relied upon.)
 
Chillimonster said:
So to be "Professional" you need to stay out of [P] mode :shrug:

I thought it was results that counted :thinking:
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Well I have to say that if after I have looked at WeddingHacks shots that I have just seen and loved.... if he said to me "Janice, I took all those shots on fully automatic on my camera" then I would answer "Good for you and well done."

It is the result that counts.. the bride and groom couldnt care what setting your camera is on. If P happens to work best in certain situations, then use it.
 
Yes if I can be as good as Duncan one day-I will be in heaven. That is a pro tog imho. Im not worthy LOL
 
PapaLazarou said:
We don't mind helping but don't mess with peoples big day if you don't know what to do.
Asking things like do I need flash for a wedding or any other simple thing, if you dont know what to do don't do it.
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The point you are all missing is that it is the B&G big day. NO ONE elses. If they choose to ask a friend/relation to do the photo's that is THEIR choice. I fthat person then comes on here and asks for help on what to do in order to make the best of the day then I think it is down to us to TRY and help them.

Not ridicule them in a way that frightens people off!!!!!!

We all have to start somewhere and I am willing to bet that PapapLazarou made a few mistakes in his time that were paid for by the client and also had to ask for assistance.

I applaud all of those who are brave enough to assist someone on their wedding day when asked and have the balls to ask for help.

I dont think ANY of those who said they were doing a wedding said they were getting paid for doing so either!!!!!!
 
Marcel said:
I'm going to say this once and once only.

If anyone on here can't discuss something in an adult and respectful manner, go and find another forum to play on. I don't normally threaten the banning stick, but if I see more personal attacks and rudeness, this thread will be closed along with some accounts, that goes for BOTH sides of this little 'argument'.
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I'm with you Marcel [honest]:bonk:
 
The point you are all missing is that it is the B&G big day
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I did mention that earlier.
 
professional using p mode:thinking:

i think it doesnt sound bad as long as you understood and kept an eye on the settings your using. your camera manufacturer has put a lot of time thought, testing into getting the modes working correctly and perfecting it, so why not use it, as long as you understand what it is using and whether it achieves the shot your after. but again we are bought back to knowing your equipment and how to use it properly.

if we are talking people who use p mode because it is the only mode they know how to use then i would class that as different.
 
bookwyse said:
The point you are all missing is that it is the B&G big day. NO ONE elses. If they choose to ask a friend/relation to do the photo's that is THEIR choice. I fthat person then comes on here and asks for help on what to do in order to make the best of the day then I think it is down to us to TRY and help them.

Not ridicule them in a way that frightens people off!!!!!!

We all have to start somewhere and I am willing to bet that PapapLazarou made a few mistakes in his time that were paid for by the client and also had to ask for assistance.

I applaud all of those who are brave enough to assist someone on their wedding day when asked and have the balls to ask for help.

I dont think ANY of those who said they were doing a wedding said they were getting paid for doing so either!!!!!!
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I make mistakes all the time, and so will every other wedding tog.
But to ask for help on the basics come on, just dont do it if you dont know.
 
In the meantime.... all novices have a look at THIS

and EVERYONE SHUT UP!!!!!!!!!! :D:D :lol: :D
 
PapaLazarou said:
I make mistakes all the time, and so will every other wedding tog.
But to ask for help on the basics come on, just dont do it if you dont know.
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But surely the point is that the people who come on here asking for help are not wedding togs, they are friends / family of a bride or groom who can't afford a wedding tog and want to do the best possible that they can to record the big day for that friend.

If someone is saying that they are planning to charge £1300 for a day, have never photographed a wedding and don't know where to start then by all means tell them politely that you don't think it's appropriate.

But to generally slate everyone who isn't a pro and wants to take photos at a wedding seems a bit off to me.
 
This is perfect
My plan can finally happen .....
What I am going to do is advertise nationally for loads of wedding bookings
Then I am going to buy a load of kit cameras and modify them so they stay on P
Give one each to a load of amateurs along with a copy of the how to do a wedding guide and then sit back and count my money !
Cant fail !!!
 
perhaps time to close the thread?
 
Sorry that article said use manual flash and the flash will work out the light-will it LOL

Thought that was what manual meant-manually adjust it yourself
 
But to ask for help on the basics come on, just dont do it if you dont know.
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So never aspire is that it?

How does one strive to improve without asking?
 
digitalmaniac said:
Sorry that article said use manual flash and the flash will work out the light-will it LOL

Thought that was what manual meant-manually adjust it yourself
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doh! didnt see that. I think he mustve meant use manual on the camera.. that is what I do.. and let the flash do its own thing. :thumbs:
 
starman said:
This is perfect
My plan can finally happen .....
What I am going to do is advertise nationally for loads of wedding bookings
Then I am going to buy a load of kit cameras and modify them so they stay on P
Give one each to a load of amateurs along with a copy of the how to do a wedding guide and then sit back and count my money !
Cant fail !!!
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Oh dear:bang:
 
Dunno i think this thread is great now we are away from a slanging match lol
 
I don't think the thread should be closed, nothing wrong with a healthy debate I just think that a few people (me included) got a bit personal.

Anyone want to photo my wedding next may? :lol:
 
starman said:
This is perfect
My plan can finally happen .....
What I am going to do is advertise nationally for loads of wedding bookings
Then I am going to buy a load of kit cameras and modify them so they stay on P
Give one each to a load of amateurs along with a copy of the how to do a wedding guide and then sit back and count my money !
Cant fail !!!
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you're trolling, stop it, now!
 
PsiFox said:
So never aspire is that it?

How does one strive to improve without asking?
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ask away, you will get alot of helpful advice, asking for advice on weddings is worthwile as well and as long as you have some good ground level knowledge how your camera works there isnt a problem, the whole thread was directed more to i bought a cam this morning because i have a wedding to tog tomorrow.

that said, most people on the forum will attempt to offer help(whether backed up with experience or knowledge gathering from other places). and quite a few people do suggest caution on what you are doing and question your ability to do it, not out of disrespecting abilities but to make sure you are aware of what the job entails. most threads i have read about "i have just done my first wedding" normally state that it is a lot of hardwork and a lot of running round and a few thank yous for the valuable advice they recieved
 
starman said:
This is perfect
My plan can finally happen .....
What I am going to do is advertise nationally for loads of wedding bookings
Then I am going to buy a load of kit cameras and modify them so they stay on P
Give one each to a load of amateurs along with a copy of the how to do a wedding guide and then sit back and count my money !
Cant fail !!!
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[S3]Not needed!!![/S3]

If you have nothing constructive to say, please don't say it... This topic has begun to get very petty.
 
wow, one morning, over 1700 views, nearly 200 posts and only 3 admin edits.
 
Right.....Calm Down.....Calm Down.....Right i am calm

Papa - You had no reason to word it is you did. Talkphotography would get no where if everyone else thought they was better than everyone else would it?

Just everyone chill
 
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