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Apparently Yv would fall foul of the height restrictions
........Sorry Yv......
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dogs are required to be on a lead in public places at all times and you can be fined up to £1000 if you don't.
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under which law ?
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Apparently Yv would fall foul of the height restrictions
nah she'd sneak in under the barrier
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I thought it was up to a local authority to impose such orders? Some have them, some don't.
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All that act does is allow the local authorities to implement dog control orders, which can include a requirement to keep a dog on a lead at all time.
But this is ONLY based on the local authority and is not a blanket nationwide law.
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Nonesense.
Dogs Act 1871
It is a civil offence if a dog is dangerous (to people or animals) and not kept under proper control (generally regarded as not on a lead nor muzzled). This law can apply wherever the incident happened. The dog can be subject to a control or a destruction order and you may have to pay costs.
The Control of Dogs Order 1992
This mandates that any dog in a public place must wear a collar with the name and address of the owner engraved or written on it, or engraved on a tag. Your telephone number is optional (but advisable).
Dangerous Dogs Act 1991 (section 3)
It is a criminal offence (for the owner and/or the person in charge of the dog) to allow a dog to be dangerously out of control in a public place, a place where it is not permitted to be, and some other areas. A dangerously out of control dog can be defined as a dog that has injured someone or a dog that a person has grounds for reasonable apprehension that it may do so. Something as simple as your dog chasing, barking at or jumping up at a person or child could lead to a complaint, so ensure that your dog is under control at all times. If your dog injures a person, it may be seized by the police and your penalty may include a prison sentence and/or a ban on keeping dogs. There is also an automatic presumption that your dog will be destroyed (unless you can persuade the court that it is not a danger to the public, in which case it may be subject to a control order). You may also have to pay a fine, compensation and costs.
Wether there are public parks in which dogs are permitted to run freely is decision made entirely by local authorities.
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More likely you will get a fixed penalty if anything.
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nope
the CN&E '05 provides that authorities can make a dog control order on land under their control to that effect and may specify a penalty up to that limit , specifying that if a fixed penalty is not set in the DCO it will be taken as £75
It doesnt in itself make any regulation for dogs in a public place
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it means you can get fined for failing to remove dog faeces, not keeping a dog on a lead, not putting and keeping a dog on a lead when directed to do so, permitting a dog to enter land from which dogs are excluded and taking more than a specified number of dogs on to land
I didn't say it was set in stone.
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actually you said dogs are required, and then you can be fined, which implies it must be done or risk a fine - or in other words, the rule is set in the stone, the consequence is just a possible.
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You are allowed to just say 'oops, sorry folks, got that one wrong'
Even saying nothing is better than continuing to argue something which is incorrect
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lol aye, piece of cake! haha
I'm also thinking of something right now which is making me smile....
Jim, you have not read what the initial post was about.
It was about dog owners displaying a yellow ribbon on its tail to WARN off approaching pedestrians and other dog owners with dogs, as a visual aid. The owners of said dog can still use an audible warning if they feel that their dog does not want approaching.
It is not about arguing, it is about putting my case across as why I think it is a stupid idea and I wasn't on my own. My belief is that if YOUR dog has some kind of problem that an approach by something else may upset it, then it is your responsibility to guide your dog away from such an occurrence and not to expect the other party to.
My thought process is not anti dog/dog owner (as I am one) it is anti stupid ideas!
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I too thought that dogs had to be on a lead in public. I was sure that this became law in the late 1980s.
I could be wrong though, however unlikely that might seem!
Steve.
I could be wrong though, however unlikely that might seem!
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you are probably thinking of the dangerous dogs legislation which outloawed some breeds and specified others to be muzzled /on leads in public
but that wasnt a carte blanche thing for all breeds
likewise the act Poah refers to makes it possible for local authority to make that the law in some places by means of a dog control order , but it isnt a broad brush one rule applies everywhere situation
but that wasnt a carte blanche thing for all breeds
likewise the act Poah refers to makes it possible for local authority to make that the law in some places by means of a dog control order , but it isnt a broad brush one rule applies everywhere situation
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Well, it says more than yellow flippin ribbon! I wouldn't have a bloody clue what that meant, would you?
"Tie a yellow ribbon 'round the mad dog's lead..."
Dem bonez work far better.
I was thinking more "Tie a yellow ribbon on the OLD dog's lead"!
To me, a yellow ribbon around anything means there's someone away from home so "put the blame on meee!"
A good idea in principle but the colour needs a rethink!
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Quoted from the image- "If you see a dog with a yellow ribbon or something yellow on the leash, this is a dog who needs some space. Please do not approach this dog with your dog. Please maintain distance or give this dog and his/her person time to move out of your way."
please read what i have put into bold type. It asks you to give the owner/walker time to move out of your way, not the other way round, although there is no reason why you couldnt move out of its way should you so choose.
This is a fairly new scheme which they are currently trying to implement in 47 countries! If it helps even a little bit surely its better than the current situation??
I Have read it many times and it still makes the other party react to something that is not in their control.
If dog owners are that concerned about not being approached it is they you should be educating.
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its educating both!
I do not have a problem with that as I already do that.
What if all the pedestrians had a ribbon on to say 'Hey, dog owner, please wait while I pass as I have a cold/measles/flu/bronchitis/a phobia about dogs/limp/conical shaped plastic on my head............
Good luck with the project.
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Maybe that's not as stupid as it sounds. How about making sick people wear ribbons to say keep away I've got the lurgy. I'm sick and tired of getting coughed on or sneezed at by inconsiderate sick folk.
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This is ideal:
Dog Fleece Onesie Skull And Bones.
Imagine a Bull Mastif, in a skull & bones hoodie. I'd give it space.
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We actually have something similar over here, though its usually a fluorescent yellow collar and leash.
This system can work and really it only asks that people be observant.... But some people are too lazy to be bothered and will always fight any and every change, even when that change can be beneficial.
This system can work and really it only asks that people be observant.... But some people are too lazy to be bothered and will always fight any and every change, even when that change can be beneficial.
I would like clearance from the a admin team before I respond to the comments you have made, mainly to allow me the chance of a reply without being accused of being argumentative by other members.
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over here a flouro colar and leash usually means a guide dog (or other disability dog)
while i can see some merit in identifying dogs that need space, i can't help feeling a more obvious solution is to treat all dogs with respect and generally not to behave likev a blithering idiot
while i can see some merit in identifying dogs that need space, i can't help feeling a more obvious solution is to treat all dogs with respect and generally not to behave likev a blithering idiot
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Grow a pair and risk it anyway Tom..............
Ahh Ade, I like the place though.
Edit. I have changed my mind on my above statement to Ade. I really mean I can't be arsed, if folk cannot see an objective view as a good thing then good luck to their insular thinking patterns. It still does not mean argumentative!
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Missing the point a bit, but carry on....