Do you eat halal meat?

If supermarkets etc are supplying meat slaughtered in this way to keep one religion happy, then perhaps they should stop selling pork and beef to keeps the jews and sikhs happy. I wonder how may of them are eating meat they shouldn't.
 
People are "up in arms" because of the supposed suffering animals endure during the halal ritual slaughter. I don't doubt it either. On the flip side of things the argument boils down to "Well we do it this way, so you must be doing it wrong! Do it our way, or else! ". It's one half of the world against the other on this topic. Both sides think the other ain't doing it 'right'. I don't agree with an animal having to endure any more pain than it should, but the animals are dead either way.

It would be of the utmost hypocrisy for us to start debating the 'right' way to kill an animal and to condemn those who practice other methods of slaughter as 'evil'. It's not like the animal has a say in the matter. Surely the mass-slaughter of millions of animals everyday, whatever the method, is the most evil practice of them all?
 
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I would b equally annoyed if say pizza express just did gluten free bases rather than a choice.
 
BBC Lunchtime News, Muslim Slaughterman ... 'We don't stun the animals as they could die from the stunning and that wouldn't be halal'.
 
both subway and pizza express both state they use suppliers that stun the animals. most muslims accept this as halal still.

there are some (strictly) licenced suppliers that are allowed to do the process without stun i believe. the skeptic in me would think that the news people deliberately chose to interview these for shock value.
 
neil_g said:
both subway and pizza express both state they use suppliers that stun the animals. most muslims accept this as halal still.

there are some (strictly) licenced suppliers that are allowed to do the process without stun i believe. the skeptic in me would think that the news people deliberately chose to interview these for shock value.
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ALL abattoirs that produce Halal can do so without having to stun the animal first, some abattoirs choose to stun first

Also if an animal dies from just the stunning process then it would be rejected as it would not be Halal
 
neil_g said:
there are some (strictly) licenced suppliers that are allowed to do the process without stun i believe. the skeptic in me would think that the news people deliberately chose to interview these for shock value.
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No pun intended I assume? :)

However, whether widespread or limited it is obviously occurring without stunning.
 
Love the Muslim Council reply

They wrote: "Consumers should be informed whether an animal has been mechanically stunned before being slaughtered and whether it has endured repeat stuns if the first attempt was ineffective.

"They should also be told the method of slaughter: captive bolt shooting, gassing, electrocution, drowning, trapping, clubbing or any of the other approved methods."
 
Any animal on a farm is in reality a crop. It is there to be eaten. Apparently we like to know what we eat (it was stated on page 2). If so, how come Jamie Oliver is making so many changes and no one knew before him??? How did we have the horse meat scandal?

Also many of these scandals....

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/dog-cat-curry-fears-over-1789118

Along with the rat meat, dog meat and many other meats.
 
acetone said:
Love the Muslim Council reply

They wrote: "Consumers should be informed whether an animal has been mechanically stunned before being slaughtered and whether it has endured repeat stuns if the first attempt was ineffective.

"They should also be told the method of slaughter: captive bolt shooting, gassing, electrocution, drowning, trapping, clubbing or any of the other approved methods."
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I've been to some clubs that could do that ;)
 
I'd like to know some of the other "approved methods"!
 
Keith W said:
ALL abattoirs that produce Halal can do so without having to stun the animal first, some abattoirs choose to stun first

Also if an animal dies from just the stunning process then it would be rejected as it would not be Halal
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i was reading something recently that said different. essentially you have to have a specific licence to not stun for the halal.

also that most muslims accept stunned animals as halal.
 
I've probably eaten Halal and Kosher meat - if I have, I can't say I noticed any difference between that and mainstream slaughtered meat. However the animal is slaughtered, I'm fairly sure it's not the most pleasant experience for it...
 
The 'real' outrage is in reality the internet to blame. It's too easy to voice an opinion without thinking, or jump onto the media driven morality bandwagon, without engaging thought.

Now if the people complaining became vegetarian, spent a little longer buying from quality sources, wrote letters to their MP's, the supermarkets etc, then I'd have a little more respect, but lets face it, the majority of people type I'm appalled on the internet somewhere, froth for 10 mins, tell their partner 'that told them' and return to buying frozen meals or nicely cling film wrapped crap, because it's cheap or convenient.

Right I'm off to write a letter to Branson and my MP about the internet and make myself a foil hat. :D
 
I hope I'm not the only one in thinking this, but for a while I thought halal meat is like a special low fat spicy version of ordinary meat suitable for diabetic lactose intolerant Islams, but it is just like ordinary meat - the only difference is in the way it is killed.

Seems I still have much more to learn about the human race.
 
Probably. Don't care. It has to be dead for me to eat it. Boss to see the usual people on the board up in arms about it though. Yet they're not crowing about kosher. Which is much much worse. There's probably reasons for this but I won't go into it :)
 
norters said:
Yet they're not crowing about kosher. Which is much much worse. There's probably reasons for this but I won't go into it :)
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The consumers of kosher food tend not to be the type targeted by the likes of the Daily Heil or Britain First as threats to our "Britishness".
 
I wonder why a 4 year old Daily Mail article has suddenly become news again?
 
i hate to tell you this but all meat killed in this country tends to have its throat cut and be bled out, rather a large factory i visited, used Co2 stunning strung them up by their hind legs and stuck a knife in with a vacuum attached that sucked all the blood out of it,,,
 
not really bothered. as long as its safe to eat.
a waiter in a restaurant asked me how do I like my steak cooked.
I said cut its horns off and wipe its ass. lol.
 
Vacuuming the blood from a stunned beast which still has a strong heartbeat is a very inefficient way of going about it. The combination of gravity, the heartbeat and an open jugular or femoral does the job very well.
 
viv1969 said:
Vacuuming the blood from a stunned beast which still has a strong heartbeat is a very inefficient way of going about it. The combination of gravity, the heartbeat and an open jugular or femoral does the job very well.
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6000 animals a day would disagree, depends on the pump size
 
lizzy23 said:
6000 animals a day would disagree, depends on the pump size
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Get their opinion to me and that'll cease to be the daftest post so far :-)
 
viv1969 said:
Get their opinion to me and that'll cease to be the daftest post so far :)
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Why daft that was what they were killing a day, it was the most up to date and efficient slaughter house in the country at the time and the only one using co2 stunning, can't have been that bad or all the other major players wouldn't have followed them down this route
 
you missed her point ;)
 
lizzy23 said:
Why daft that was what they were killing a day, it was the most up to date and efficient slaughter house in the country at the time and the only one using co2 stunning, can't have been that bad or all the other major players wouldn't have followed them down this route
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No....it was more the assumption that the beast in question would hold an opinion. And if they did I suspect they'd be picking any local field. :-)
 
With respect to Subway not selling pork, i wonder if this is strongly influenced by the fact that it's a franchise so each store has more freedom. The branches in question may be run by people who don't eat and therefore want to sell pork?
 
TopBanana said:
With respect to Subway not selling pork, i wonder if this is strongly influenced by the fact that it's a franchise so each store has more freedom. The branches in question may be run by people who don't eat and therefore want to sell pork?
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Have you not seen the huge advertising on TV at the moment? Get a bacon bap from 7am in the morning?
Last time I looked that came from a pig.
 
MWHCVT said:
Yeah almost certainly, truth be told I don't really care either way so long as the meat is safe for human consumption I'll eat it, and based on some of my past kebab experiences "safe" clearly is a flexible measurement depending directly on how much alcohol I've consumed :D
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hmm that "time of the morning" when the "elephants leg, in a week old pitta bread" seems the most logical idea, ever!!!
 
Lynton said:
hmm that "time of the morning" when the "elephants leg, in a week old pitta bread" seems the most logical idea, ever!!!
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Exactly :D and it always tasted good too :thumbs:
 
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