Do people today lack a sense of humour?

Nod said:
So SOME insults are OK while others aren't? FWIW, the most savage bout of insult hurling I've ever seen was between two self proclaimed screaming queens including most of the now-seen-as-homophobic terms for homosexuals.
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Of course insults are fine, what a ridiculous question.

And of course I'm aware that people use bad language during a fight, whether they're straight or gay, black or white, male or female. I'm sure everyone here has called someone a name in anger they'd never have used in polite company. That has nothing to do with a bad 'joke' on a TV programme.

You could let me know whether you think it's acceptable, it's a simple thing you're trying to make complicated?
 
Depends on context. It's not a word that I'd use but not a word that I'd be offended by if called it.
 
Nod said:
Depends on context. It's not a word that I'd use but not a word that I'd be offended by if called it.
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Well dodged!

Not an answer to the question I asked is it.

You can choose to ignore the question rather than the verbal gymnastics. :)
 
It seems to be a word that the hip and trendy 20 somethings (lads and lasses) are using at the moment whilst out with their friends. "Stop being gay!", "don't be so gay!" I've heard it a few times. It doesn't appear to articulated in a malicious manner and the recipients don't appear to be offended. Just youngsters messing around who have probably been taught diversity and rights and responsibility in school / college and should know better. Whether, anyone else in earshot is offended I guess it's down to the individual.
 
Blank_Canvas said:
It seems to be a word that the hip and trendy 20 somethings (lads and lasses) are using at the moment whilst out with their friends. "Stop being gay!", "don't be so gay!" I've heard it a few times. It doesn't appear to articulated in a malicious manner and the recipients don't appear to be offended. Just youngsters messing around who have probably been taught diversity and rights and responsibility in school / college and should know better. Whether, anyone else in earshot is offended I guess it's down to the individual.
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That's a lot of words that don't include 'Yes' or 'No'. :p
 
nilagin said:
Actually it was about ice cream. But everyone is so offended, they fail to realise it and that makes it funny. Jokes on them.
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If you're going to post satire it's usually recommended to use smilies. Someone might have thought you were being serious.
 
Phil V said:
That's a lot of words that don't include 'Yes' or 'No'. :p
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Ah ok, I've just seen your question. As an insult, no I don't think anybody should be using it and It's not in my vernacular. But a 'yes' or a 'no' closed question doesn't always elicit the full or useful answer and is a bit superfluous.
How do you determine 'an insult' which is a perception. The recipient might not be offended but 3rd person overhearing it could well be ?
 
How come no one has dropped the 'N' word yet?

Too contentious? Much easier to stick to gays and fags I expect.
 
Phil V said:
a mod I'm guessing. the post has disappeared along with a response to it.:confused:
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Which thread was that? there are no deleted posts in this thread.
 
Cobra said:
Which thread was that? there are no deleted posts in this thread.
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Ooh, I'll have to have another look, I definitely used the N and P word.

Not big or clever btw, and I'm not linking (they're still there)
 
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Phil V said:
Not big or clever btw, and I'm not linking (they're still there)
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Yep just spotted it ..
and yep they are still there ;)
 
Phil V said:
Well dodged!

Not an answer to the question I asked is it.

You can choose to ignore the question rather than the verbal gymnastics. :)
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Probably as acceptable as calling somebody fat, lazy and a b*****d, whether factually correct or not.
 
Nod said:
Probably as acceptable as calling somebody fat, lazy and a b*****d, whether factually correct or not.
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IMHO a perfectly valid description of many 70's comedians, lazy because they had no creativity and just endlessly copied each other's jokes. Overweight - plenty of them were (as am I). Bastards because they were sexist, racist, homophobic, they picked on the weakest and easiest targets, many of them were complete scumbags.

Sorry if it offends, but I'm happy to stand by that description of many 70's so called comedians.
 
So, using a word to describe a person in an insulting way, even using the word incorrectly is OK? In that case, calling a person "gay" is OK by your definition.
 
viv1969 said:
I'm a little disappointed in the 2 words accepted to describe sexuality as a whole, really.
Gay....well, given the original definition of the word, I'm amazed that more aren't constantly up in arms at it's use in this context, to be honest.
Straight.... Used purely to denote the opposite of bent. Again, rather insulting in and of itself, on both sides.

In this "enlightened" day and age, should heterosexual and homosexual not be more acceptable?
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There are more than a few organisations that use the word gay in their title, so I guess they are more than happy with it. Heterosexual and homosexual both get abbreviated anyway, but I've only heard the latter abbreviation used as an insult.
 
Blank_Canvas said:
I don't think I'll bother using the search facility for this one......
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Its all about context, it wasn't used as an insult nor directed at anyone.

Phil V said:
70's comedians, lazy
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And that's all about context too, I don't find today's "modern" comedians funny in the slightest.
SEVEN! wtf is that all about?
To me its rather like the TV programmes, today, especially the so called reality programmes the viewers are so keen to watch anything, the programme makers are producing ever decreasing
interesting stuff, and the viewers are so hooked that they'll watch anything, and so the downward spiral continues.
 
Llamaman said:
If you're going to post satire it's usually recommended to use smilies. Someone might have thought you were being serious.
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I always make use of the smilies when appropriate. (y)
 
Phil V said:
There's the rub though, all this has happened, no one forced it, all it takes is for decent people to speak out and the world turns.
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In context of an ever growing list of `touchy` subjects, I disagree. Society in general is ultimately being forced into a narrow point of view where differing opinions & thoughts are frowned upon to the point where
there isn't much freedom to discuss certain issues & to the point we are at now discussing a light hearted comment/joke spoken by someone, who presumably thought it was funny himself.

Phil V said:
So let's see what's wrong... I don't think using 'gay' as an insult is funny, not because I lack a sense of humour - but because it's simply not funny.
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That's fine, but if someone does find it funny, that's should also be fine, whether you like it or not.

There are a few gay comedians that use terms that would be frowned upon if said by others.
Black, Asian, Middle Eastern.......etc comedians make comments that could be classed as racist if it wasn't about themselves or countrymen.
Similarly comedians with disabilities.
The list can go on & on if someone wants to find `outrage`.

As I said earlier, I don't like swearing in front of females, or children, but it seems acceptable to many these days & young woman seem to eff & jeff as much as men. Not well mannered imo, but I guess that's progress & I stopped being offended on behalf of others years ago.
Crikey the Irish don't bat an eyelid, swearing is almost part of everyday conversation.

cardiff_gareth said:
Agree! Some people just want to say how offended they are by 'everything' because they have very argumentative personalities and believe that their point of view is the right point of view..........

Agreed.


I surround myself with people who are fun and positive rather than negative so I find things funny. Don't get me wrong words that have been listed above like the N word etc I condone as that's not funny, even though black people use it now in a cool way so maybe the word is losing it's past? I don't know but it's not a word I use. I call my friends gay all the time and vice versa and before anyone says anything, that's straight and gay friends. I always thought gay meant happy anyways?

Life is too short to be offended by everything! Get a life PC people and enjoy it as we're on this planet for a very short time frame in the grand scheme of things.
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Agreed.

Phil V said:
Because as usual this thread has drifted all over the place, mostly into irrelevant territory.
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Irony? :D

Blank_Canvas said:
It seems to be a word that the hip and trendy 20 somethings (lads and lasses) are using at the moment whilst out with their friends. "Stop being gay!", "don't be so gay!" I've heard it a few times. It doesn't appear to articulated in a malicious manner and the recipients don't appear to be offended. Just youngsters messing around who have probably been taught diversity and rights and responsibility in school / college and should know better. Whether, anyone else in earshot is offended I guess it's down to the individual.
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My Nieces & Nephews speak like that too. (20-28 yr olds, not kids btw)
I've heard a few other words & phrases used by the younger generation that used to mean something completely different.
 
Nod said:
So, using a word to describe a person in an insulting way, even using the word incorrectly is OK? In that case, calling a person "gay" is OK by your definition.
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I have no idea how you draw that conclusion. But you seem intent on doing so.

Quite bizarre.
 
OldCarlos said:
In context of an ever growing list of `touchy` subjects, I disagree. Society in general is ultimately being forced into a narrow point of view where differing opinions & thoughts are frowned upon to the point where
there isn't much freedom to discuss certain issues & to the point we are at now discussing a light hearted comment/joke spoken by someone, who presumably thought it was funny himself.
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It's a bit more than 'touchy', but some people do like to play the victim.

There are a number of 'discrimination' points that are written into law.

I won't lecture, I'll get you to consider for yourself why that is so.
 
Again, let's not forget. This thread was started by someone 'offended on behalf of' not a victim of society, but one of life's 'winners', a man who gets paid handsomely for 'reading out loud'.

And we're yet to see someone admit they think what Hammond said is 'OK', all we have is a lot of old blokes attacking anyone who says that the privileged millionaire is in the wrong. No one thinks he's right, but they hate to admit that the gobs***e lefties have a point. And they'll twist and turn at every opportunity to fight for the rights of the nasty little oik :thinking:

What a strange turnaround this is.

:naughty:
 
OldCarlos said:
You're telling me! :LOL:
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Again. Check the thread title.

Who's playing the victim here?


Again, it's those nasty political correctness types telling us we're not allowed to be t***s. Tell em mum :dummy:
 
Phil V said:
Again, let's not forget. This thread was started by someone 'offended on behalf of' not a victim of society, but one of life's 'winners', a man who gets paid handsomely for 'reading out loud'.

And we're yet to see someone admit they think what Hammond said is 'OK', all we have is a lot of old blokes attacking anyone who says that the privileged millionaire is in the wrong. No one thinks he's right, but they hate to admit that the gobs***e lefties have a point. And they'll twist and turn at every opportunity to fight for the rights of the nasty little oik :thinking:

What a strange turnaround this is.

:naughty:
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Why does it matter if he's a millionaire, or not, to you?
 
OldCarlos said:
Why does it matter if he's a millionaire, or not, to you?
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Because someone started a thread that has him as a 'victim' and I find that a bit odd given his rather charmed life.

People defending someone who is rich and influential's right to bully is quite a strange phenomenon IMHO.

But odd that you pick on that one phrase ;)
 
Phil V said:
Again. Check the thread title.

Who's playing the victim here?


Again, it's those nasty political correctness types telling us we're not allowed to be t***s. Tell em mum :dummy:
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Yep, i've checked the thread title. (same as it was the last time I looked) (y) & after reading & posting in the thread, I think it's a valid question.

Aaaaaand, the normal defensive response re PC to those who have a different opinion. :dummy:
 
Phil V said:
Because someone started a thread that has him as a 'victim' and I find that a bit odd given his rather charmed life.

People defending someone who is rich and influential's right to bully is quite a strange phenomenon IMHO.

But odd that you pick on that one phrase ;)
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Bullying? WTF? o_O He was presumably saying something funny in his eyes, so why presume bullying & being outraged at his sense of humour? (or lack of it)

And even more odd that you always seem to have a problem with folk who are financially better off than yourself. ;)
 
Phil V said:
Because someone started a thread that has him as a 'victim' ...........
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cambsno said:
Yet again we see another bout of 'we cant make fun of anyone'. http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/article/38442533/richard-hammond-is-criticised-for-gay-ice-cream-joke-on-amazon-show-the-grand-tour

It seems that you cant make fun of anyone without offending. How sad some of these people are... do they just laugh at Knock knock jokes?
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BTW, the thread title & OP doesn't really mention anyone in particular, it's about having a lack of sense of humour in general ;)
 
OldCarlos said:
BTW, the thread title & OP doesn't really mention anyone in particular, it's about having a lack of sense of humour in general ;)
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That link that doesn't 'mention anyone in particular':
Richard Hammond is criticised for gay ice cream joke on Amazon show, The Grand Tour

Did you hope I wouldn't have read it?

 
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OldCarlos said:
Bullying? WTF? o_O He was presumably saying something funny in his eyes, so why presume bullying & being outraged at his sense of humour? (or lack of it)

And even more odd that you always seem to have a problem with folk who are financially better off than yourself. ;)
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Why assume I'm not also a millionaire?

Is that not you making massive assumptions about my motives.

And again, my motives aren't the point.

Someone thinks Hammond needs sticking up for, and despite the fact that no one has said what he did was OK, you also just want to attack those who said its not funny.

What an odd view, not prepared to agree with him, but wanting to attack anyone who disagrees.

Some might assume you've got a viewpoint you're ashamed of.
 
I know what it says in the link, I was just saying the thread is about humour................. OR THE LACK OF IT :LOL: ;)
 
Phil V said:
Why assume I'm not also a millionaire?

Is that not you making massive assumptions about my motives.

And again, my motives aren't the point.

Someone thinks Hammond needs sticking up for, and despite the fact that no one has said what he did was OK, you also just want to attack those who said its not funny.

What an odd view, not prepared to agree with him, but wanting to attack anyone who disagrees.

Some might assume you've got a viewpoint you're ashamed of.
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TBH, I couldn't give a toss whether you are or aren't, it isn't something I use to measure a person ;) ( but you do seem obsessed about it)

Getting back to the main point :rolleyes: it isn't really about the hamster, the thread is about humour in general, or perceived lack of it. (y) So stop bullying RH. :D

I'm sorry you can't accept my (& others views) of which I am in no way ashamed, so don't try to score points by the demeaning tone/slurs, it really really really doesn't work. :rolleyes:
 
OldCarlos said:
I know what it says in the link, I was just saying the thread is about humour................. OR THE LACK OF IT :LOL: ;)
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I don't know how you surmise that, the thread is in response to the linked article about Hammond.

Is your view on this so shameful you're now trying to pretend the whole discussion is about something else? :p
 
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