DIY shoulder strap

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There's been a spate of threads about shoulder straps, so I'm a bit wary about adding another but I thought somebody might be interested in my DIY take on the design.

After a lot of experimentation, my implemenation is currently this:-

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Essentially it is a fusion of several different designs.

I wanted a wider strap than the Black Rapid and the Q Strap just for addded strength and comfort. I made the first version using webbing from an old bag, but it was grey, slightly grimy, untested, and not "ninja-black" so I bought some 38mm seatbelt material. Wherever possible I tried to use materials with tested breaking strains. This stuff is 15kN. It cost £8 for 10meters and I've used a third of the roll.

I wanted to use a loop, rather than stitching it to a shoulder strap and thus introducing more links into the critical chain. The Black Rapid copies I've have seen all have the strap stitched to the shoulder pad. This introduces more potential failure points (the stitching as well as the shoulder pad which itself then becomes a part of the critical chain). None of these seem like serious problems, but why run the risk at all if it can be removed? Also, this way, the loop can be disassembled if anything needs to be added, swapped out, or redesigned. I have made the loop by using 2 triglides. I had these lying around from old bags I'd previously thrown away. You can get these for about 40p each, and I've used 4 (2 here and 2 further down).

The other element of the strap is the shoulder pad. The strap itself is wider than the average strap and so doesn't really need a pad, but I wanted one. I was going to use a decent one that I took off a defunct laptop bag from work, but in the end sourced one from America from a company I like called Maxpedition which cost £12.

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ALternatives are, as I said before, taking one off an old bag, or there are cheaper replacements such as this Tatonka shoulder pad for £6.50 mentioned by Dave here. I've been impressed with Tatonka stuff in the past so I am sure this would be excellent, and to be honest I'd have probably gone with this if I'd seen it first.

The main weakness/unknowable in the BR style straps to my mind is the swivel carabiner that slides up and down the strap. The internet has a lot of stories of Black Rapid straps breaking here, as well as the copies.

Additionally, another source of problems in that design is an inherent gap for user-error. There are lots of stories of people forgetting to attach or lock the carabiner when removing the strap.

I wanted a connection that was demonstrably stronger and which minimised the risk of user-error.

I researched options and found a usable adaption from Luma Labs, the M-connect. These guys seem to be the good guys to the Black Rapid villains of the piece.

I sourced some Hypalon offcuts for free from a friend at the RNLI. It is the stuff inflatable rib motor boats are made from and it's incredible material.

I have essentially pincered a loop of the Hypalon between my camera body and my tripod arca mount.

I tested this setup using a 16kg kettlebell. I pincered the looped material between two L-plates from BR style L-plates and hung the assembly from a railing. Then I attached the kettlebell via a maillon (more detail below) and then dropped the kettlebell from a range of heights. As a result the material took a very high stress test. I tried a range of materials such as 1000 Denier cordura, 1000D PU backed Nylon and similar PVC backed Nylon. The other materials all eventually tore catastrophically. The stress which caused them to fail was very large, and those materials would certainly suffice, but the Hypalon was in a different class and withstood far more extreme drop-tests, and came out looking utterly unaffected.

To connect the hypalon loop to the shoulder strap, I put a 5mm bar maillon in the loop of Hypalon. Maiilons (aka quicklinks,fast links or rapid links) are built for climbing and they are cheap. I had a few galvanised steel maillons in my bits box. A 5mm link can be got for less than £1, and they are rated for 250kgs. If I was buying new, I'd go for a stainless steel copy - slightly more expensive but stronger, more resistant to corrosion, and it will slide up and down the strap more readily.

I don't think it's necessary, but I've added a short section of old road bike innertube. This is just to stop the barrel tightener on the maillon from causing any abrasion on the Hypalon, as well as minimising the risk of the maillon undoing.

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The thickness of the Hypalon material means the tripod screw does not screw into the camera's tripod mount as far as it would normally. It appears to me that the tripod screw normally screws in through 3 complete revolutions. With the Hypalon in place the standard screw only rotates twice. This seemed fine, and the rubber finish of the hypalon acts as a gasket and allows for a very tight lock-up. Nevertheless I sourced a slightly longer tripod screw for £4.

The additional benefit of this setup IMO is that less force is transferred into the camera tripod mount. I am not an engineer but I am happier with how loads are dealt with in my design than in the BR straps.

Despite this setup being far more secure than the BR straps(to my mind at least) I still wanted to have additional redundancy.

For this I am currently using spliced 2mm dyneema dinghy cord (as recommended by Whom). I am using this while I wait for thinner dyneema fishing line to arrive.

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The advantage of the design I have used is that this line can be very short. Ultimately I want to have a very short line that hugs the camera body from the camera's mount for the standard neck strap down to the maillon. I'll heatshrink it too probably to minimise abrasion (and to maintain the stealth-black style).

The dinghy cord is tested to 240kgs and cost less than £3.

Lastly, the strap needs a "stopper" mechanism to stop the camera from sliding too far around one's back. I don't know about the Black Rapid strap, but the copies use a cam lock which works perfectly and is quickly moveable. I didn't want to pay for one though, and used 2 triglides instead. One only was too prone to slide along the strap, but two in tandem work admirably.

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I've spent less than £30, and most of the expense was unnecessary - if you have a suitable old bag with usable strap, shoulder pad, and triglides, and you use your tripod's mount screw, you should be able to implement the same design for under £10.

As a postscript, I've added a small plastic cliplock behind the "stopper" triglides.

This is to attach a quickly removeable low profile case.

I hope that's of use to somebody. Please let me know if it does, and please post any improvements and pictures of similar ideas.
 
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Very nice, some serious work has gone into that design. You'll get a satisfying feeling every time you lift the camera up to take a picture! :thumbs:
 
and all that for a pentax ;)

But that said a nice idea using the RIB material its tough stuff. I had been looking at climbing gear but not sure I want the metal bits too close to my kit.
 
Wow Dave, of all the things to respond to you choose THAT? What a great contribution.

One minute of looking:
mine - http://www.talkphotography.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?t=419263&highlight=strap
this one has been dug up lately - http://www.talkphotography.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?t=327303&highlight=strap&page=2
and from a few days ago - http://www.talkphotography.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?t=418730&highlight=strap

I didnt say there wanst any just not noticed them
 
Ive not noticed any,

I created one and noticed at least two others I think. The main concern is the lack of redundancy with the Blackrapid etc. I was in Calumet on Friday and mentioned the Blackrapid system to the guy there and he pulled out a small threaded bolt to demonstrate just how little depth is actually screwed in to the tripod mount. Scary! lol

The above stuff is nice! :thumbs:
 
I created one and noticed at least two others I think. The main concern is the lack of redundancy with the Blackrapid etc. I was in Calumet on Friday and mentioned the Blackrapid system to the guy there and he pulled out a small threaded bolt to demonstrate just how little depth is actually screwed in to the tripod mount. Scary! lol

The above stuff is nice! :thumbs:

I know I would be checking all the time
 
My apologies. Thanks for sharing.

:thumbs: maybe I could have worded it better and a bit more rather than my short thought,

I do like it but would still stick with a neck strap or a commercial one, Im all for "Mend and Make Do" cobbled together Heath Robinson style I have many home made photography aids
 
Sorry, but that strap doesn't work for me.

The thing about sling-straps like the Black Rapid, is that the camera hangs upsidedown, from a single swivelling point so it slides up easily, with nothing in the way of your hands, and the grip is where you want it.
 
Thanks for all the comments and feedback. Much appreciated.
Very nice, some serious work has gone into that design. You'll get a satisfying feeling every time you lift the camera up to take a picture! :thumbs:
Thanks, Steve. Yeah, I'm pretty pleased with it.
I had been looking at climbing gear but not sure I want the metal bits too close to my kit.
Yeah. Even though mine is only a Pentax, I feel the same way. :razz: :D

I've made sure the only metal part of my design - the maillon - can't touch the camera. It's definitely a consideration I'd raise in any DIY solution.
I do like it but would still stick with a neck strap or a commercial one, Im all for "Mend and Make Do" cobbled together Heath Robinson style.
Dave, I'm certain the design I've ended up with is many times safer than the Black Rapid strap and its copies. Whether it's more useable, I cannot say without access to a BR, but on my research so far, I'd say it's just as well specced and functional. It does not have any pockets, but then none of the purchase price has gone into FUD marketing or vigorous patent bullying which would appear to account for much of the price of the BR strap. I'd definitely recommend that if you do like to DIY solutions, you have a think about something like this.
Sorry, but that strap doesn't work for me.

The thing about sling-straps like the Black Rapid, is that the camera hangs upsidedown, from a single swivelling point so it slides up easily, with nothing in the way of your hands, and the grip is where you want it.
Hey there, Richard. Thanks a lot for the feedback. I really want to address any design flaws. I'll add some more pictures, but as the design stands, the camera does hang upside down from a single point and slides up very easily. It doesn't swivel, but the swivel is the weakest point in the BR style design IMO, and, again, IMO, in the design I ended up with, the camera hangs just right without the need for one. I actually prefer it to the BR design, as the single point is at the corner of the camera rather than at the tripod mount.
 
Have you got a pic of it over your shoulder please, I think the safety wires a great idea as well, :thumbs: I saw one the other day that Steve (whom) made, they look a similar idea, deffo worth thinking about
 
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Hey there, Richard. Thanks a lot for the feedback. I really want to address any design flaws. I'll add some more pictures, but as the design stands, the camera does hang upside down from a single point and slides up very easily. It doesn't swivel, but the swivel is the weakest point in the BR style design IMO, and, again, IMO, in the design I ended up with, the camera hangs just right without the need for one. I actually prefer it to the BR design, as the single point is at the corner of the camera rather than at the tripod mount.

Have you tried reversing the plate, turning it round so the strap hangs just off-centre, a little towards the grip end of the camera? This would get it away from your hands in the shooting position, and would be close to the ideal balance point, which is a liitle way towards that end IMHO and not directly into the tripod socket.

I like your attachment method, it's similar to mine in that I also use a fabric loop, though fixed to an L-bracket. I have simply doubled them up for security, not that I think it's necessary, more for peace of mind. Yours looks very strong, nothing wrong with that, but that extra bit of cord is over-kill and would definitely get in my way.

HTH :)
 
Hi Richard. Thanks for that. I don't quite follow what you're saying about reversing the plate, and I don't really understand the problem you're describing. If possible could you have another go?

Here are some more pictures which might be of use:-

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Hi Richard. Thanks for that. I don't quite follow what you're saying about reversing the plate, and I don't really understand the problem you're describing. If possible could you have another go?

Here are some more pictures which might be of use:-

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Just rotate the plate 180 degrees, and drop the extra (unnecessary?) cord.

Whatever works for you though bud. All ideas on this very welcome :)
 
Ah I see. Thanks.

Yeah, you could definitely do that. You wouldn't need to rotate the tripod plate, just the black ond orange loop of Hypalon fabric.

Like you say though, I guess it'd be down to personal preference.
 
I've made a few changes...

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Since these pictures I replaced the black plastic triglides with lower profile metal ones from ebay.

This is so I can switch quickly between two sizes (large loop for me, small loop for SWMBO).

The Maillion is just so the excess webbing hangs more neatly when it is shortenened.

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I've strung on the female part of a 45mm Cobra buckle.

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Impressed with your ingenuity Sam, but can't help think it's rather over engineered for holding a camera. Also doesn't it defeat the object a bit of having such a small light DSLR like the K-5.

I have an Optech shoulder sling which attaches at both strap fixing points and very simple to just unclip one when using to take a photo.

Started doing something similar for holding a tripod more securely on my rucksack when the simple answer was just detach the head when carrying it.
 
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I like the idea and it looks well finished. I'm a great believer in the DIY approach. I notice that you've added another connection from the original strap. Isn't this the weak link now with the possibility of it becoming detached? I thought it looked more secure with the original design. Nice job though.

Gaz
 
Thanks for your comments guys.

Yeah, I added a Cobra buckle because we did want to be able to detach the camera from the strap. It's an ASCI certified buckle tested to 21kN. I'm not worried about it failing, but it does increase the risk of user-error. That's something we decided was worth the compromise.
 
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