Desperate Help wanted with Gold Hallmark

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Its the hallmark from a Gold 18 carat ring (tested) which is very personal to me. I believe it is a European Continental mark but I cannot find out anything about it. It used to belong to my Grandfather so at a guess it is around the middle to late 1800's or even early 1900's and the only connection I have to my Grandfather.

The markings are SM - AT2 - B each set in a rectangle and the only markings on the ring. They are so small that by photographing with macro lens then editing up the size can the inprint marks be read.

If anyone can shed any light on these marks I will be extremely grateful, I have almost exhausted every place I can think of in the way of identifying them.

I have found out that commissioned pieces of gold as a one off, quite often doesn't have any other identifying marks. The first 2 letters I think are the makers mark but I have got no further as yet.

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I wonder if they are governmental hallmarks, although I've done some searches on various databases and found nothing.
 
EOS JD

That refers to the london assay office 1937


I have eliminated it because its not just the date letter to go by but the shape of the indent they are set in. The one you quote is set in a square not a rectangle all be it a small one,which does make all the difference. Infact when I had it valued the valuers actually missed the marks altogether they are that small.

There are several Uk Assay Offices Sheffield/ Birmingham etc all using very similar markings except some have a slightly different capital B or different indents.

Due to family age history I believe it to be around late 1800,s or early 1900's. 1937 is too late for it to fit within the family history.

Thank you for looking for me and if you can find anything else related please post.

I have also contacted several companies that deal with gold and hope they can come up with the answer. If so I will post on here

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I did a little bit of searching ... Read: I went in search and ended up spending a while looking at metal detecting sites and blogs :lol:. The only thing that I could find about the marks was what the B was, and it looks like the date letter for 1937 CLICKY HTH
 
If it's not a 1937 date letter (going by what you said about the shape it's set in) It doesn't appear to be British CLICKY as you can see there are no other recognisable date letters that match other than that.

Gonna keep searching now, because it's bugging me :lol:
 
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Thanks for your trouble I have reason to believe it is of Continental European origin for reasons I am not willing to post on here. At one time my late parents said something about Ireland relating to it which may or may not help, they were vague about that.

Bit of further research tells me it is definately from the 1800's and not after, for other reasons not posted on here.
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Well the first thing is that after searching all World assay office hallmarks there is not a match to these marks, so it is likely that they are not official assay hallmarks.
What assay office did you have the ring tested, they should have been able to tell you the original of the marks?
My view is that they may well be markers marks only and represent, The marker, style and size maybe.
If you could give a little more information regarding the rings place of origin i could do some more investigation for you. The last observation is that for a ring that is over 100 years old the marks are quite fresh and carry a modern (ish) type face.
I hope this helps and good luck with you investigation.
 
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It was just tested as that

Medway
It was tested by the goldsmiths who did the insurance valuation and I don't have a clue about place of origin all I know is what you see as to the marks but definately made in late 1800's. due to other charastics I am unwilling to post on here.

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The only thing therefore i could suggest is to e-mail the marks and an explanation to one of the large auction houses in London and see if they can shed some light on the origin of the marks.
Good Luck.
 
Its ok I Have found out its the registration marks for identification with registered with Safeguard SM is Safegard Mark and the rest is for their identification purposes registered with SafeMark.

ThanK you everyone for your advice and help

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