David Jason-apology.

TheWombat said:
Jason was forced to apologise to "Absolute Radio" listeners after cracking an old and admittedly not very funny joke---What do you call a Pakistani cloakroom attendant ?-------"Mahatma coat"---boom boom.
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lmao thats funny :P
 
Look at the way African-Americans have re-taken the initiative with their use of the 'N' word (I'm not even going there...)...

Words do have the power to hurt and maim, but also language changes...look at the word 'Gay' - before the war it meant having a jolly and carefree time...try using it now in that context...
What was harmless before is considered offensive now and vice-versa...it's up to the individual's interpretation... I always felt that I could not be held responsible for other people's mis-interpretation of my words, but that is exactly what current legislation suggests...

It must be seen in context - I have several friends and colleagues from several varying ethnic backgrounds and the level of 'banter' between us varies according to the individual...
Granted we in the Army tend to have a more robust attitude to this sort of thing - the Armed Forces tend to attract those with slightly thicker skins (and those who have better things to worry about than PC-ness), so that all Welshmen are sheep-sh&gging, velcro-mittened perverts, all Irishmen are Pig-Eyed Micks, anyone from north of Wapping is a Northern Monkey and anyone from south of Manchester is a Southern Shandy-Drinking Poof...

I do think things have gone a bit too far now in the UK...people are getting too afraid to say that others aren't performing in the workplace in case thay are accused of being '-ist in some way... (I have direct experience of this...it took us 3 years to reassign one individual because everyone knew that he was simply waiting to play the 'race-card' to get him a government compensation payout - the result of that was that he was allowed to remain in-post, taking up valuable resources because no-one could figure a way out of it... and he really pushed everyone's buttons in an effort to get people to abuse him verbally - I had to pull a warrant-officer out of a room with this guy as he was giving him a disciplinary talking-to - the WO's favourite perjorative remark was 'Monkey' - he said that to all of us whenever we did something stupid, but with this other guy it would have meant only one thing...).

BTW the best way to offend Germans I've found is to tell them they're Austrian...forget gas-chambers and WW2, they're so over all that - football? They know they're better, so what's the point, but call them an Austrian and sit back, watch them burst into flames and then go off and annex Poland...it's great...
 
I think a lot of it is just pandering to the Muslim religion, which seems to be done consistently in this country for fear of offence, as has been mentioned lots of nationalities are abbreviated as are cities ie brummie, jordy, scouser, it doesn't really bother me when people call me brummie, although quite a while back a vietnamese guy at work shouted to me Oi brummie, i replied what do you want gook, he never spoke to me for 3 months :lol: the country has gone politically correct mad over the years, and i can't see it getting any better, should David Jason have apologised of course not, only for the fact the joke was donkeys years old (is that disrespectful to donkeys :lol:)
 
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Also, is it acceptable to view Muslims as a potential threat when the single greatest threat to Western Democracy at the moment is Muslim Fundamentalism?

I used to keep a weather eye on anyone with a Northern Irish accent, as in days gone by, it was Republican Irishmen trying to blow us up...now it's Radical Muslims, so obviously I no longer look at white Northern-Europeans as as being as great a threat to me...

When I see a Norwegian backpacker on the tube I barely bat an eye other than to wish he/she would have chosen a more appropriate form of luggage...but if I see someone of middle-eastern or Indian-Asian extraction with a similar back-pack, I will look harder at him...likewise women in burkhas who look unfeasably 'lumpy' - best way to hide a semtex waistcoat? Under a burkha - most suicide bombers overseas are now female as it's still considered rude to subject women to the same search procedures as men, even by women officers, of whom there aren't enough to provide proper cover...
 
Arkady said:
I do think things have gone a bit too far now in the UK...people are getting too afraid to say that others aren't performing in the workplace in case thay are accused of being '-ist in some way.
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This happens an awful lot where i work :(
 
Arkady said:
Also, is it acceptable to view Muslims as a potential threat when the single greatest threat to Western Democracy at the moment is Muslim Fundamentalism?

I used to keep a weather eye on anyone with a Northern Irish accent, as in days gone by, it was Republican Irishmen trying to blow us up...now it's Radical Muslims, so obviously I no longer look at white Northern-Europeans as as being as great a threat to me...

When I see a Norwegian backpacker on the tube I barely bat an eye other than to wish he/she would have chosen a more appropriate form of luggage...but if I see someone of middle-eastern or Indian-Asian extraction with a similar back-pack, I will look harder at him...likewise women in burkhas who look unfeasably 'lumpy' - best way to hide a semtex waistcoat? Under a burkha - most suicide bombers overseas are now female as it's still considered rude to subject women to the same search procedures as men, even by women officers, of whom there aren't enough to provide proper cover...
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Very well said and put :thumbs: now i'm off for a pint, i hope this thread isn't closed when i get back :D
 
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Arkady said:
<snip> Words do have the power to hurt and maim, but also language changes...look at the word 'Gay' - before the war it meant having a jolly and carefree time...try using it now in that context...
What was harmless before is considered offensive now and vice-versa...it's up to the individual's interpretation... I always felt that I could not be held responsible for other people's mis-interpretation of my words, but that is exactly what current legislation suggests...</snip>

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Great post :thumbs:
 
Rob_W said:
You cant 'enforce' people to think a certain way, you can only muzzle what they say.

The Race Relations Act seems only to raise it's head when colour is involved.
And anyone who has ever listened to someone from say India, speaking about
someone from Pakistan, its a lot worse than most things i could think of.

Everytime the Racist card is played over something so petty, it just serves
to push people in the opposite direction
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I've got as many Pakistani friends as I do Indian or white British. And we all make fun of each other, it's not a big deal. There is a difference between a joke / play on stereotypes and a deliberately malicious comment. Only Fools is one of my favourite shows and always will be. He doesn't need to apologize.

Rhodese said:
Brummies call me a &#8220;YAM YAM&#8221; can I sue?
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What is a yam yam? Is that like yum yums but taste different? :D

Arkady said:
Also, is it acceptable to view Muslims as a potential threat when the single greatest threat to Western Democracy at the moment is Muslim Fundamentalism?

I used to keep a weather eye on anyone with a Northern Irish accent, as in days gone by, it was Republican Irishmen trying to blow us up...now it's Radical Muslims, so obviously I no longer look at white Northern-Europeans as as being as great a threat to me...

When I see a Norwegian backpacker on the tube I barely bat an eye other than to wish he/she would have chosen a more appropriate form of luggage...but if I see someone of middle-eastern or Indian-Asian extraction with a similar back-pack, I will look harder at him...likewise women in burkhas who look unfeasably 'lumpy' - best way to hide a semtex waistcoat? Under a burkha - most suicide bombers overseas are now female as it's still considered rude to subject women to the same search procedures as men, even by women officers, of whom there aren't enough to provide proper cover...
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I can't say I blame you, and I'm Asian. But look at it from their point of view. It's easier to play to these stereotypes because it's visual. Irish accents are only identifying if you hear it.
 
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Rob_W said:
You cant 'enforce' people to think a certain way, you can only muzzle what they say.

The Race Relations Act seems only to raise it's head when colour is involved.
And anyone who has ever listened to someone from say India, speaking about
someone from Pakistan, its a lot worse than most things i could think of.

Everytime the Racist card is played over something so petty, it just serves
to push people in the opposite direction
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I agree, the race card is played far too often in this country, by ALL people, not just ethnic minorities. It's the easy way out for a lot of people unfortunately.

Dom_Cabarete said:
political correctness is overated, he made a joke, its pritty funny and im pritty sure a pakistani would find it fairly amusing also....
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That depends on who you ask though doesn't it?

Rob_W said:
The racist card is played far, far, far too much in this country...

When its the other way round not a peep is said...
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Did you cut and paste that from somewhere?

RichardtheSane said:
I have to admit on more than one occasion when they are featured in the paper commenting to my wife about exactly that.
I wonder what would happen if someone set up a white police officers association :thinking:
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White people would join? Although if I was in the police I'd try and join it for a laugh.

It boils down to this. These things are not acceptable when said on mass media. They are fine among close friends. Honestly, you should see the **** my friend and I come up with. I call him an imperialist ****** and he calls me a rice boy suicide bomber. We then laugh and start talking about the American electoral system. It's not a big thing among friends. It's easy for everyone here to sit there at their keyboards and say 'oh no, that's not racist, I know lots of ethnic friends, blah blah blah.' I for one don't care how many of 'us' you know. If a stranger comes up to me and calls me a 'paki' you better either prepare to be laughed at or if you're looking for a fight step the **** off.
 
I've been called Mowgli a few times. I actually kind of like that.
 
I am unable to experience prejudice as I am a white, middle-class hetrosexual Anglo-Saxon man in his early 30s.

Therefore I don't know what it's like.

Ahem.
 
Myky D said:
I am unable to experience prejudice as I am a white, middle-class hetrosexual Anglo-Saxon man in his early 30s.

Therefore I don't know what it's like.

Ahem.
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RACE CARD
:D
 
It's a known fact - from the ancient Greek development of rhetoric, that the call of "Racist" concludes and wins any argument at all.

Thus:

Domestic:

"Well it's not as if you've ever got on with my mother, is it?! I mean - when we're in town you expect her to accomodate us, but whenever she comes round it's like Fort Knox! I mean - when are you finally going to accept that she's part of our lives INCLUDING YOURS?"

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"Racist."

Civil:

"Mr Speaker - perhaps our right honourable friend might like to consider that - were it not for the very statistics he quotes - he wouldn't even be here in the first place!"

*applause, cheers*

...

"Racist."




Etc
 
scotslasszoe said:
Calling someone with ginger hair a ginger nut is racist also.

well in parts of scotland it is lol:lol:

I am not offended if someone calls me Jock. Or Haggis muncher. Mmmmmm haggis:naughty:
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I ate a whole haggis, pretty much. 450g. Delicious, although it almost killed me.
 
KayJay said:
I ate a whole haggis, pretty much. 450g. Delicious, although it almost killed me.
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You have to catch them by the neck just behind the head, otherwise they will savage you quite badly. Unfortunately they have to be killed by exsanguination which is a bit cruel, but if you kill them any other way it taints the meat. ;)
 
Tazmaniandevil said:
You have to catch them by the neck just behind the head, otherwise they will savage you quite badly. Unfortunately they have to be killed by exsanguination which is a bit cruel, but if you kill them any other way it taints the meat. ;)
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Yeah... I'd heard that.
Do you still use Tartan sheep to find them? or are there more high-tech methods now?


;)
 
scotslasszoe said:
Calling someone with ginger hair a ginger nut is racist also.

well in parts of scotland it is
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My worst fears have come true-----The post has been hi-jacked by "The Scottish Fundamentalist Movement." Thats it------We are all doomed. :lol:
 
KayJay said:
I ate a whole haggis, pretty much. 450g. Delicious, although it almost killed me.
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Could it be that what caused your present condition :exit:
 
KayJay said:
That reminds me, went to see the nurse today....


Infected wound :'(

1 week course of antibottics.

:D

Seriously though :(
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I know some of us are having a laugh at your unfortunate condition but seriously I hope it clears up soon, and for good.

But you are.......how shall I put it......... encouraging some of the replies;):)
 
Galaxy66 said:
I know some of us are having a laugh at your unfortunate condition but seriously I hope it clears up soon, and for good.

But you are.......how shall I put it......... encouraging some of the replies;):)
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The wound is definitely Racist and with no sense of humour.:D
 
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