Dave Lee Travis arrested

I agree...So, for example, from one of the many anti police posts on here

"Police are in my opinion, facist barstools who are all on the take" is opinion.

"Absolutely right, that polis was lying through his teeth." is libel

Unfortunately people on Internet sites think they are beyond legislation, they aren't.

Anyway, back to DLT. He has been exonerated of the majority of charges. The rest? I think the CPS should give up. These historical allegations are I'm afraid prone to too many issues with reliability.
 
...and presumably absolutely no comeback on the false accusers.
 
According to the live updates on the mirror site , its not guilty on 12 charges (the historic ones from the 70s) , and unable to reach a verdict on two - the alledged groping of a stage hand during a pantomime, and an alledged sex assualt on a female journalist - CPS want 7 days to consider whether to retry the two outstanding ones.
 
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At least the BBC won't have to rely on just the Kid Jensen episodes for their TOTP reruns - they can bring back the hairy cornflake!

It makes you realise why Saville wasn't charged during his lifetime - none of it would have ever stuck. I bet Stuart Hall is regretting pleading guilty.
 
Jury asked what they should do if they believed the women but there was no evidence. Dur. If you think it happened like they said, and what they said amounts to that offence and you think he did it then you have to say guilty! The only evidence is word of them against him. That's all there is. What a mess.
 
which highlights the other problem with the justice system the (lack of)intelligence of some jurors - is witness testinmony not evidence now :shake:
 
The chap that conducted a lot of the Savile investigation seemed to be rather surprised at the verdict too having sat through a lot of the case.
 
Jury asked what they should do if they believed the women but there was no evidence. Dur. If you think it happened like they said, and what they said amounts to that offence and you think he did it then you have to say guilty! The only evidence is word of them against him. That's all there is. What a mess.
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which highlights the other problem with the justice system the (lack of)intelligence of some jurors - is witness testinmony not evidence now :shake:
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No, I think it sums up the internet generation where 'opinion' is mistaken for fact.
 
Spuff said:
At least the BBC won't have to rely on just the Kid Jensen episodes for their TOTP reruns - they can bring back the hairy cornflake!
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:D

Mike Read and Peter Powell still safe on the re-runs arent they? And Noel Edmunds.
 
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for now - but the way things are at the moment......
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I didn't want to tempt fate....

I think if there's one thing to be learnt from the DLT case then it's don't have the Chuckle Brothers as your defence witnesses. You'd be on the jury wondering if you were on some sort of acid trip...."to me, to you, to me"...
 
Nod said:
...and presumably absolutely no comeback on the false accusers.
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Were the accusations definitely false then ? or was it just a case that the jury decided that it didnt meet the requirements of the charge the CPS decided to bring ? there not being sufficient evidence to prove something beyond reasonable doubt isnt the same thing as a witness making a false statement.

you can't have a situation where 'victims' are put off reporting anyone for a sexual offence (or indeed any offence) in case there is then comeback on them if the CPS lose in court - There are already three avenues for dealing with an accuser who is found to be maliciously false i.e Wasting police time, perjury , or a civil suit for slander/libel - the first clearly wasnt thought to be the case here, the second is unlikely as the court didn't appear to think the witnesses were lying, and the third would be up to DLT, but i strongly suspect he won't go that route as it will just perpetuate the story (plus he might lose as the burden of proof is different in civil cases)
 
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