D610 v 6D?

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Looking for a budget FF camera - narrowed it done to these two.

I have no alegance to either and no lenses - the D610 seems to be a bit cheaper so I'm leaning towards that at present...

Can't stretch to the D750...

Any advice from owners?
 
Nikons dynamic range is outstanding!
 
6d high ISO capabilities are outstanding. What are your requirements? Would help considerably. Looking forward, what glass will you need or want? That's a massive consideration as well. It is not just all about the body....
 
Yeah that's true! Good glass on a starter crop sensor better than a 5D mk111 with a milk bottle on front
 
Nikon's sensor performance is much better than the 6D, but I would strongly urge you to get hands on each as you may prefer the ergonomics and layout of one over the other and this is really really important.

Also think which system will suit you better moving forward as it's very expensive to swap down the line. Look at the lenses that you think you might want as Canon offer some that Nikon don't and vice versa (very very few TBH).

Have you thought about buying used if you want the D750?
 
Would look at something like a 24-85 kit lens at first and then a small prime...
 
If your looking for a ' budget 'full frame camera then it's a 5d mark 1.
Then a D700, 5d mark 2 and Sony A7.

Or did you mean my budget can accommodate either d610 or 6d?

They both cost roughly the same but for some reason the canon retains more of its value on the used market.
 
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I've got a d610 and back up is a d700 and I won't get rid of either
 
If your starting from a blank sheet I'd take the Nikon of that generation over the canon unless you have friends/relatives who use canon and will lend you expensive lenses!

Neither camera will disappoint the sensor in the d610 is better but that doesn't mean the one in the 6d is rubbish it is just less amazing!
 
Photopaque said:
They both cost roughly the same but for some reason the canon retains more of its value on the used market.
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I've noticed that Canon bodies do seem to hold their value a bit better, but that's compared to current market rather than original RRP. If you buy Canon at their launch price you probably lose more.
 
boliston said:
I noticed that the 6d quotes a higher max iso but it still has more noise at high iso than the d610 according to snapsort:

"Lower noise at high ISO
2,925 ISO vs 2,340 ISO
The D610 has a slight edge (0.3 f-stops) in low-noise, high-ISO performance"
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Tbh what the max high ISO is can be a bit irrelevant as the manufacturers tend to put in ISO performance way above what the average shooter will use.. The D5 for example can go up to a ridiculous 3,000,000 I believe, but you'd never use it. DXO scores give a decent real world ISO comparison, and then there's this site which gives a good comparison. TBH there's very little to choose between them, although the Nikons would be marginally better after downsampling to match the Canon res.

https://www.dpreview.com/reviews/im...=1&x=0.1312927631284066&y=-0.9790009973890715
 
I'm also trying to keep weight down as much as possible....

I have seen the D610 with 24-85 for £1200 - grey import obviously...
 
24-85mm is an excellent lens, better than the price suggests. Anibap has posted some excellent shots with it in the D750 thread.

I'm slightly confused why you are looking at FF cameras if you're trying to keep the weight down ;)
 
Lol - trying to keep weight down within reason :)

The D610 and 6d appear to be at the lighter end..
 
Yep, not much heavier than higher end crop bodies. Is there a particular reason you want FF?
 
Just interested to see if the IQ is noticeably better - particularly in low light and darker/dull days...
 
I've not used the 6D but the D610 is a fine camera with excellent IQ and dynamic range.

It's let down by the AF (not very wide coverage and the overall performance isn't Stella) and a few other things like live view implementation and little user niceties - but it still takes an excellent raw!
 
I recently got a 6D and I have been really happy with it so far. Good balance of weight for a FF DSLR and really nice files to work with.

I personally prefer the ergonomics of the Canon over the Nikon so didn't compare at the time but I think the 6D is a great value FF camera. I don't think you would be disappointed with either.
 
One camera body - how many lens do you plan to buy and at what cost?

consider your lens needs first
 
Skip the legacy flappy mirror cameras and go to whatever A7 you can afford. :exit:
 
SsSsSsSsSnake said:
Snerkler will probably have a good one in the ads soon ;)
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I have a new one on the way so fingers crossed this one will be OK and last me until the 5D4 comes down to a reasonable price ;)
 
BillN_33 said:
One camera body - how many lens do you plan to buy and at what cost?

consider your lens needs first
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It's difficult to look at lenses - I.e telling which nikon lenses are full frame - never mind when you start looking at tamron, Sigma etc
 
justa1972 said:
It's difficult to look at lenses - I.e telling which nikon lenses are full frame - never mind when you start looking at tamron, Sigma etc
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Its very easy when you know what your'e looking for :)

Its just a designation on the lens name, ie for Sigma, anything labelled DG is FF.
 
justa1972 said:
It's difficult to look at lenses - I.e telling which nikon lenses are full frame - never mind when you start looking at tamron, Sigma etc
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You should always consider lenses before investing into a system (see my post #5). Nikon FF lenses are the ones marked FX.
 
Well at present I have a 16-50, 50-230 and was looking to add a 35mm equivalent prime.

An ultra wide might be on the cards in the future but again it must be as low weight as possible!
 
justa1972 said:
It's difficult to look at lenses - I.e telling which nikon lenses are full frame - never mind when you start looking at tamron, Sigma etc
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don't understand this comment - it is easy to look at the lens range once you have decided what you want and will want depending on your type of photography ............. lens are extensively tested ....... you may spend £1,000 on a body and then spend 3, 4 or even 10 times that on lens ........ between Nikon and Canon some lenses from each stand out .. with third party lens, whether they are Nikon or Canon fit the optics are the same

The distinction between would could be called Full Frame lens and Cropped Frame lens is easily identified

Choice your lens first not the body unless you have a number of Nikon or Canon lenses
 
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justa1972 said:
I'm also trying to keep weight down as much as possible....
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Hmm, let's see...

Your current kit weighs:
  • Fuji XT-10 = 381g
  • Fuji 16-50mm OIS = 195g
  • Fuji 50-230mm OIS = 375g
for a total of 951g.

A full-frame kit that gave you broadly equivalent functionality would look something like:
  • Nikon D610 = 850g
  • Nikon 24-85mm VR = 460g
  • Nikon 70-300mm VR = 745g
for a total of 2055g.

Slightly more than twice as much. Just sayin'....
 
XT-1 weighs a bit more than the XT-10 but I take your point
 
I went from a 6D to a D750 and although I've not tried it extensively, nor used the D610, but I can say so far that the Nikon is a better unit. There isn't much in it, but for the negligible difference in price(for myself changing kit), it's so far worth it for me.
 
drb5 said:
I went from a 6D to a D750 and although I've not tried it extensively, nor used the D610, but I can say so far that the Nikon is a better unit. There isn't much in it, but for the negligible difference in price(for myself changing kit), it's so far worth it for me.
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I take it you don't do sports, landscape or low light photography then ;) :p
 
drb5 said:
I went from a 6D to a D750 and although I've not tried it extensively, nor used the D610, but I can say so far that the Nikon is a better unit.
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Well, yeah. Duh. If you'd gone from a D610 to a 5D Mark III, you'd have said that the Canon is a better unit. It doesn't mean anything if you're not comparing like with like.
 
StewartR said:
Well, yeah. Duh. If you'd gone from a D610 to a 5D Mark III, you'd have said that the Canon is a better unit. It doesn't mean anything if you're not comparing like with like.
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It all depends on what's important to you TBH, the D610 still has better DR and noise handling than the 5d3 so still capable of producing better images in this regards. No doubt the 5D3 is better built and has better AF.

However, the D610 is definitely more in the 6D market than 5D3 market so is closer to comparing like for like. In terms of price the 5D3 is more D810 territory, but in terms of a body it kind of sits between the D810 and D750. With the higher res I'd say the 5D4 is closer to the D810 than D750 but still somewhere inbetween.
 
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