D610 v 6D?

6D & D610 are both great cameras with very little in it in terms of performance, I would get to a camera shop and try to handle them, ergonomics and button layout will probably swing it for you because its all about what feels right when using it.
 
snerkler said:
In terms of price the 5D3 is more D810 territory, but in terms of a body it kind of sits between the D810 and D750. With the higher res I'd say the 5D4 is closer to the D810 than D750 but still somewhere inbetween.
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I don't think it's really possible to put the two manufacturers' cameras on a single linear scale and say that one camera is between two others. They both choose which subset of possible features to include in each new model, and I think they both think it's not really in their interests to mirror the other's decisions or to produce models which can easily be compared with the opposition.

The only comparisons which I think are fair and meaningful, at least if we're looking at full frame cameras, are at the top of the range and the bottom of the range. It's fair to compare the 1D X Mk II with the D5, though let's face it they're both far more camera than most of us will ever need and the comparison is rather fatuous. And I think it's fair to compare the entry level full frame offerings, which are the 6D and the D610. That's the point I was trying to make.
 
justa1972

I was a confirmed Fuji X-E2 (at the time) user, but also had a FF itch to satisfy, I bought a s/h 6D to scratch the itch (I previously owned other Canon DSLRs, and at the time still had a liitle Canon glass like the 50mm f1.8), whilst I could appreciate the low light capability, the weight options when I looked at decent glass really put me off (i did add some glass, 24mm oand Tamron 24-70) but I ended up trading it for an X-T1, and recently traded that for an X-T2. Now for my type of photography the X-T1 offered no limitations over the 6D, and the X-T2 is a definite step up. The low light capability of the X-T2 with the Acros simulation is astonishing for a crop sensor.

I think your upgrade should be driven by glass not body though, Fuji make some fantastic glass, and it sits very comfortably above the budget Canikon Glass, and some of it rivals L type glass. But once you are up to L type glass, or equivalent ranges from Nikon/Sigma/etc the weight (and physical bulk + cost) rises quite a bit.

I'm not the only forum member to chop in FF for an X-T1/X-T2, and we may not be right, or suit the needs of your style of photography, but upgrading to FF and then going back to Fuji will not be a cheap exercise, and Fuji's are definitely boomerang cameras!!!
 
snerkler said:
I take it you don't do sports, landscape or low light photography then ;) :p
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I think he's just pointing out that the real world differences are nothing like as night and day as the Internet and some dxo scores make out. Doesn't matter which of these cameras you buy they are all capable of delivering stunning results in the right hands and most of us will never wrong every last drop of performance out of them!

I look at pictures I take with my 5d mkii and know I could do much better without upgrading simply because the previous owner did!
 
a1ex2001 said:
I think he's just pointing out that the real world differences are nothing like as night and day as the Internet and some dxo scores make out. Doesn't matter which of these cameras you buy they are all capable of delivering stunning results in the right hands and most of us will never wrong every last drop of performance out of them!

I look at pictures I take with my 5d mkii and know I could do much better without upgrading simply because the previous owner did!
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Agreed, my comment was tongue in cheek ;)
 
a1ex2001 said:
No worries this debate just always cracks me up most people's biggest photography challenges are nothing to do with the number of focus points or a couple of stops of dynamic range! Mine certainly aren't!
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TBH DR is important to me as a do a lot of high contrast landscapes, and I probably would notice the difference in DR especially in post. (I certainly could between my OMD EM5-II and D750). Of course there are ways around it but I'd rather not bracket if I don't have to
 
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Can't you just opt for an X-T2, PX'ing your current body ?

I know it's APS-C, but it has had fantastic reviews, it's lighter than a FF body, and you already have a range of lenses...
 
Jelster said:
Can't you just opt for an X-T2, PX'ing your current body ?

I know it's APS-C, but it has had fantastic reviews, it's lighter than a FF body, and you already have a range of lenses...
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Yes that would be great but its £1399 just for the body ! Outside of my budget :(
 
snerkler said:
TBH DR is important to me as a do a lot of high contrast landscapes, and I probably would notice the difference in DR especially in post. (I certainly could between my OMD EM5-II and D750). Of course there are ways around it but I'd rather not bracket if I don't have to
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I never said it wasn't important or you wouldn't notice just that I doubt that for most people it is the game changer they seem think and they would see much bigger improvements from technique, composition and post processing!

I can kid myself that a d750 with it's extra dr and colours would massively improve my photography but I know I'd still be taking the same slightly dull oddly generic photos I currently do! I'd be much better off spending the money on tuition or a few days off work to practice!
 
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Mr Perceptive said:
justa1972
I'm not the only forum member to chop in FF for an X-T1/X-T2, and we may not be right, or suit the needs of your style of photography, but upgrading to FF and then going back to Fuji will not be a cheap exercise, and Fuji's are definitely boomerang cameras!!!
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I know a lot of people do this and there are definitely perks to the Fuji system. I shot with it for 2+ years. My last X camera being an X-T10.

I've now left that camp however and gone with a 6D. At the moment (and I use that phrase carefully) I don't have any plans to go back to Fuji. I haven't found the weight of the 6D a burden on a days shooting and find it's a nice balance - even with say the 24-105 L on there. I agree that the expense to go back would be big. I have got a a couple of lenses (L) for the 6D already on the used market for around the same price I paid for the 56mm I had on the Fuji.

I think it's a case though of shooting what fits you best and trying a couple out. People on here have shown that the X cameras are more than capable of delivering good results.

There is no perfect camera though really. Use what you feel most comfortable with and if you can, try a few out. All the marques make good glass.
 
If you can, go for the body only D610/6D, avoid the kit lens and look for a good, used, Tamron or Tokina f/2.8 (approx 28-75mm).
 
Shak said:
If you can, go for the body only D610/6D, avoid the kit lens and look for a good, used, Tamron or Tokina f/2.8 (approx 28-75mm).
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Except you can get the 6d with the 24-105 f/4 L which is a superb lens.
 
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