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I just took a COVID test. I didn't need to, I'm not ill, I just thought I'd try one out since they were free and it's better to know how to use it while I'm not ill.

The test? Piece of cake. Takes about twenty minutes including result-waiting-time and you only have to swap a little bit into the nose, so not like the PCR test I took a few months ago which was mightily uncomfortable

The result? Easy to understand and intelligible.

The reporting? What a palaver. Go to the website, enter the code -- twice -- enter your name, address, email, ethnic origin, phone number...blood group, when you last had sex, how many dogs you own, when you last had a s**t. I gave up halfway through, it was just too much trouble. I know they are after the statistics but it takes a very conscientious person to give away ones entire lifestyle for the sake of a mark on someone's chart. I would have thought that simply the serial number and whether it was positive or negative should be enough to start with and give useful information, everything else should be optional.

I'll continue to take the tests as and when I think it prudent. Will I report the result? Probably not.
 
I have been informed that the tests are less accurate amongst the vaccinated.

I've done LFT and PCR. Had varied results from them...
 
My granddaughter tested positive from a lateral flow test and my son and grandson tested negative.
They went for pcr tests and they were all positive.
I've heard of loads of folks that have had inaccurate lateral flow tests.
 
Bobsyeruncle said:
My granddaughter tested positive from a lateral flow test and my son and grandson tested negative.
They went for pcr tests and they were all positive.
I've heard of loads of folks that have had inaccurate lateral flow tests.
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I know of people that have had it the other way round - +ve LFT, -ve PCR.

What everyone should be aware of is that the symptoms for the vaccinated are largely different form the symptoms for the unvaxed.
 
Pound Coin said:
I know of people that have had it the other way round - +ve LFT, -ve PCR.

What everyone should be aware of is that the symptoms for the vaccinated are largely different form the symptoms for the unvaxed.
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Yeah, I think it's the LFT that are innaccurate possibly because they're not getting done right....
 
Bobsyeruncle said:
Yeah, I think it's the LFT that are inaccurate possibly because they're not getting done right....
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I agree. When I had my PCR test a few months ago before going into hospital for a procedure, it was done by a medical professional and TBH it was a bit brutal. He stroked the back of my throat enough to make me gag a lot, then stuffed it to the back of my nostrils such that I had a runny nose for about 24 hours. I suspect that is the way the PCR test is really supposed to be done if it's done properly and no one is going to do that to themselves. The lateral flow tests are not so invasive but I very much doubt if many do it to themselves thoroughly enough for an accurate response.
 
I had to do a PCR test myself a couple of days ago after returning from an amber list country. I gagged so much and was left with tears streaming down my face!
 
I do 2 lateral flow tests every week. Still on the old batch which needs throat and nose to be swabbed which is as much fun as it sounds. Had 2 self administered PCRs and one at a testing centre - I reckon my self inflicted ones were more intrusive than the centre's one!

While the reporting is a PITA, it's quick and easy once you have set up and logged in. The QR code reader isn't the best on my phone but only takes a few seconds.
 
My wife works for a care home so has to have PCR tests every couple of weeks.

She had a weekend off and we'd planned to go away for the weekend but on Friday morning she woke up to a text message saying she had tested positive for Covid on her latest test. She felt fine so tool a LF test (we have boxes of them) and it was negative. Throughout the morning she took a further 4 tests and all were negative.

Anyway based on the positive we had to cancel our weekend, she was booked off work and the care home was shut down to visitors for 28 days.

Luckily my wife persisted and insisted on another PCR test which was eventually arrange via the care home so on Friday afternoon she went down to the local test centre but we still had to wait up to 72 hours for the results.

On Saturday afternoon she got a message to say she was negative!!!!!!

Weekend wasted, work wasted time re-arranging rotas and informing family members that visitations were cancelled

None of these tests are accurate and I refuse to take one. Even if I did feel ill.
 
Bobsyeruncle said:
That's just stupidity.
You could have covid and be infecting others and won't know because you refuse to have a test....:mad:
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You know what assumptions do don't you?

Firstly I work from home so rarely leave the house.
Secondly I could have Covid and not have symptoms so do you expect everybody to be regularly testing even without symptoms. No chance!

Thirdly in Wales Masks are still mandatory, so I'm going to assume that masks prevent the spread of Covid or the government wouldn't be forcing us to wear them........would they? So as long as you're wearing a mask you'll be safe from me.

If you want to keep testing and reporting then knock yourself out. The government are relying on all these false positives to keep the narrative and fear going.

PS. I refuse to wear a mask too
 
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ecoleman said:
Looks like I did based on the unproven "scientific facts" spouted by our government.
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In Scotland we still have to wear masks...
I doubt they prevent the spread of covid, but may reduce the spread?
The Scottish government are asking people to do 2 LFT twice a week whether showing symptoms or not, but I know that most aren't doing that.
I have to test regularly due to work using LFT.
I've also had several pcr tests at test centres.
We've had 2 of the antigen tests recently as we flew to Portugal to see my daughter. They were a single swab, much longer and thinner that the freebie ones and had to be unserted so far they went right into rear of the nasal cavity and it was horrible.....
Fortunately all have been negative.
 
ecoleman said:
You know what assumptions do don't you?

Firstly I work from home so rarely leave the house.
Secondly I could have Covid and not have symptoms so do you expect everybody to be regularly testing even without symptoms. No chance!

Thirdly in Wales Masks are still mandatory, so I'm going to assume that masks prevent the spread of Covid or the government wouldn't be forcing us to wear them........would they? So as long as you're wearing a mask you'll be safe from me.

If you want to keep testing and reporting then knock yourself out. The government are relying on all these false positives to keep the narrative and fear going.

PS. I refuse to wear a mask too
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The wearing of a mask stops(reduces) the potentially infected person spreading the virus. A mask is not designed nor intended to (fully) protect the wearer from infection.

So your interpretation/assumption about the benefits of mask usage are inaccurate!
 
ecoleman said:
You know what assumptions do don't you?

Firstly I work from home so rarely leave the house.
Secondly I could have Covid and not have symptoms so do you expect everybody to be regularly testing even without symptoms. No chance!

Thirdly in Wales Masks are still mandatory, so I'm going to assume that masks prevent the spread of Covid or the government wouldn't be forcing us to wear them........would they? So as long as you're wearing a mask you'll be safe from me.

If you want to keep testing and reporting then knock yourself out. The government are relying on all these false positives to keep the narrative and fear going.

PS. I refuse to wear a mask too
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I don't have enough words to describe your attitude, but if I did, I would probably be banned from here :mad:
 
I ahve been ill this week.. 3 day bug apparently according to lots of FB friends who have had simmilar

Of course to be safe i ordered the home test kit... I couldnt wait to try it but.. no drink or food for half an hr before test so I had to wait as I was drinking lots of fluids (being ill)

NO Throat swab... Both nostrils as far up as possible.. 5 twirls in each..... Came back negative.. tried again this morning even though feeling 90% better now and negative again.. It was a 3 day bug.. maybe 5 if you count one day before and after with slight asymptoms

I followed the NHS pamphlet that came with it.. logged on and put my results in.. followed all there gueidelines (that yes did say no guarantee i havent got covid but i prpobably havent)

Yet facebook and now on here everyones saying how they are not reliable.. ?????? Has anyone thought to tell thw NHS because they are still sending kits out thinking they work :(

I think I will carry on doing what the NHS tell me to do and ignore the poeple who think they know better :)
 
ecoleman said:
You know what assumptions do don't you?

Firstly I work from home so rarely leave the house.
Secondly I could have Covid and not have symptoms so do you expect everybody to be regularly testing even without symptoms. No chance!

Thirdly in Wales Masks are still mandatory, so I'm going to assume that masks prevent the spread of Covid or the government wouldn't be forcing us to wear them........would they? So as long as you're wearing a mask you'll be safe from me.

If you want to keep testing and reporting then knock yourself out. The government are relying on all these false positives to keep the narrative and fear going.

PS. I refuse to wear a mask too
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PCR tests are highly accurate.
 
Box Brownie said:
The wearing of a mask stops(reduces) the potentially infected person spreading the virus. A mask is not designed nor intended to (fully) protect the wearer from infection.

So your interpretation/assumption about the benefits of mask usage are inaccurate!
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And yet this has not been proven. In fact the WHO never recommended masks and numerous qualified doctors have come out to say they do very little to prevent the spread of the virus.

If they did work so well why was Christmas cancelled, why are we still seeing infections in Wales and Scotland?
 
KIPAX said:
I ahve been ill this week.. 3 day bug apparently according to lots of FB friends who have had simmilar

Of course to be safe i ordered the home test kit... I couldnt wait to try it but.. no drink or food for half an hr before test so I had to wait as I was drinking lots of fluids (being ill)

NO Throat swab... Both nostrils as far up as possible.. 5 twirls in each..... Came back negative.. tried again this morning even though feeling 90% better now and negative again.. It was a 3 day bug.. maybe 5 if you count one day before and after with slight asymptoms

I followed the NHS pamphlet that came with it.. logged on and put my results in.. followed all there gueidelines (that yes did say no guarantee i havent got covid but i prpobably havent)

Yet facebook and now on here everyones saying how they are not reliable.. ?????? Has anyone thought to tell thw NHS because they are still sending kits out thinking they work :(

I think I will carry on doing what the NHS tell me to do and ignore the poeple who think they know better :)
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Maybe you should get a pcr test as a back up?
Apparently the symptoms if you've been double vaccinated are more similar to a heavy cold/bug than the typical covid symptoms.
 
ecoleman said:
Obviously they are not. Clearly you did not read my first post in this thread
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PCR tests are a lot more accurate than LFT, but not infallible.
One was positive and one was negative?
So how do you know which one was correct?
Best of 3?
 
ecoleman said:
I'm not denying that Covid exists nor am I an Anti Vaxxer (I'm double jabbed), but Covid is not nearly as dangerous as the government and media make it out to be.

I highly recommend this book. It may open some eyes.

A State of Fear: How the UK government weaponised fear during the Covid-19 pandemic eBook : Dodsworth, Laura: Amazon.co.uk: Books

A State of Fear: How the UK government weaponised fear during the Covid-19 pandemic eBook : Dodsworth, Laura: Amazon.co.uk: Books
www.amazon.co.uk
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Unfortunately it won't open the eyes of the millions that have died as a result of covid.
 
Bobsyeruncle said:
PCR tests are a lot more accurate than LFT, but not infallible.
One was positive and one was negative?
So how do you know which one was correct?
Best of 3?
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4-5 Lateral flow tests also reported negative but they could be wrong too.

That's the point isn't it. My wife was healthy and had no symptoms, If it wasn't the fact that she worked at the care home she would never had even taken a test.
 
ecoleman said:
Obviously they are not. Clearly you did not read my first post in this thread
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Yep, your anecdote totally dismisses the various studies that have shown them to be highly accurate. That's convinced me, I'll forward your post to the relevant department at Cambridge who I'm sure will amend the conclusion of their study.
 
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Bobsyeruncle said:
Unfortunately it won't open the eyes of the millions that have died as a result of covid.
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I'm not denying that people have died of Covid but how many have actually died of Covid and how many just happened to test positive within 28 days of dying?

People die every day of Flu and yet suddenly flu deaths during the peak of the pandemic almost vanished.
 
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KitsuneAndy said:
Yep, your anecdote totally dismisses the various studies that have shown them to be highly accurate. That's convinced me, I'll forward your post to the relevant department at Cambridge who I'm sure will amend the conclusion of their study.
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Studies. Oh yes. Funny how only "certain" studies are accepted to be factual.
 
ecoleman said:
Studies. Oh yes. Funny how only "certain" studies are accepted to be factual.
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Yep, studies which follow proper procedures and are published tend to be more factual than an idiot on youtube.

"Based on these data, we did not detect any new cases of asymptomatic COVID-19 amongst 9,376 students living in College accommodation screened this week. The false positive rate for all pooled screening tests to date has been 1 in 373 (0.3%)"

 
ecoleman said:
4-5 Lateral flow tests also reported negative but they could be wrong too.

That's the point isn't it. My wife was healthy and had no symptoms, If it wasn't the fact that she worked at the care home she would never had even taken a test.
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Lots of people are asymptomatic though.....
My sons family were in contact with another family who all came down with covid and were all ill.
They were contacted by track and trace.
They all tested positive with more than one pcr test, but only my granddaughter and daughter in law had any symptoms, although they were mild symptoms.
 
Bobsyeruncle said:
Lots of people are asymptomatic though.....
My sons family were in contact with another family who all came down with covid and were all ill.
They were contacted by track and trace.
They all tested positive with more than one pcr test, but only my granddaughter and daughter in law had any symptoms, although they were mild symptoms.
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And it makes perfect sense that someone with a viral load that isn't high enough to make them symptomatic could return negative LFT tests but have a positive PCR. I know several families who've had the same scenario in the past couple of months.
 
ecoleman said:
I'm not denying that Covid exists nor am I an Anti Vaxxer (I'm double jabbed), but Covid is not nearly as dangerous as the government and media make it out to be.

I highly recommend this book. It may open some eyes.

A State of Fear: How the UK government weaponised fear during the Covid-19 pandemic eBook : Dodsworth, Laura: Amazon.co.uk: Books

A State of Fear: How the UK government weaponised fear during the Covid-19 pandemic eBook : Dodsworth, Laura: Amazon.co.uk: Books
www.amazon.co.uk
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I shan't be buying this book. I did do the 'Look inside' facility on Amazon and it seems likely that this book was written by a conspiracy-theorising anti-vaxxer. In the event of the author catching and becoming seriously ill from Covid-19, I'm sure I could look forward to a sudden attack of Schadenfreude.

You would highly recommend this book because it reinforces your beliefs in much the same way as Facebook supplies people with information in which they have expressed an interest thereby giving the false impression that it is the prevalent view.

As Bobsyeruncle has said, there are millions whose eyes will never open again...and many more to come if they take the half-truths in this book seriously.
 
ecoleman said:
I'm not denying that Covid exists nor am I an Anti Vaxxer (I'm double jabbed), but Covid is not nearly as dangerous as the government and media make it out to be.

I highly recommend this book. It may open some eyes.

A State of Fear: How the UK government weaponised fear during the Covid-19 pandemic eBook : Dodsworth, Laura: Amazon.co.uk: Books

A State of Fear: How the UK government weaponised fear during the Covid-19 pandemic eBook : Dodsworth, Laura: Amazon.co.uk: Books
www.amazon.co.uk
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Certainly opened my eyes when I read the reviews, like this one...

"So how did a pudenda artist become a general in the rebel army? As she explains at the start of A State of Fear, on March 23 last year she had an epiphany while watching Boris Johnson on television. It was the night of his “you must stay at home” address and at first, she says, she literally “froze with fear” there on her sofa. But then, when she defrosted, something prompted her to play the appearance back, and when she did her instinct told her something had just not been right.

She called in two experts to “decode” BJ’s body language, and both concluded that her intuition was justified. One of them, Neil Shah — the chief de-stressing officer at the Stress Management Society and author of The 10-Step Stress Solution — confirmed to Dodsworth that there didn’t “seem to be congruence between Johnson’s words and his body language. It suggests he doesn’t believe what he’s saying.” This reminded Shah of a famous episode from the Black Mirror television series when the PM was forced to have sex with a pig. (Of course an alternative explanation for Johnson’s discomfort might have been that, for once, he did believe what he was saying — but this is not a possibility Dodsworth feels the need to explore.)"

and...

"But who, after reading this book — and according to the book charts, where it has been a bestseller for three weeks, plenty have — could possibly be naïve enough to believe such an unlikely account?"

I think we now know that...
 
ecoleman said:
I'm not denying that people have died of Covid but how many have actually died of Covid and how many just happened to test positive within 28 days of dying?

People die every day of Flu and yet suddenly flu deaths during the peak of the pandemic almost vanished.
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Well, doh!

People weren't mixing.
 
ecoleman said:
I'm not denying that people have died of Covid but how many have actually died of Covid and how many just happened to test positive within 28 days of dying?

People die every day of Flu and yet suddenly flu deaths during the peak of the pandemic almost vanished.
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You can easily see that because both numbers are reported separately, the within 28 days number is a quick count. Then the official ONS figures are those who had Covid mentioned on the death certificate.

Totally bizarre that a far less contagious virus was defeated by Covid measures, who'd have thought that would happen?
 
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