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whitewash said:
that is almost certainly a challenge in the making...! anyone fancy testing young technogeeks knowledge?
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Why you asking someone else to? if you know so much about corsa's to argue with me then you spit the questions....

Only fare
 
so your car's lowered on coilover's or not?

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Techno-Geek said:
Lower it? :lol: Im getting a landy next year. Lowered car would be useless where i live.
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also... so say you beat all your mates in the corner's etc etc, but then you say


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Techno-Geek said:
Yamahahahahahahaha :lol:

The 1.0 12v is really responsive, takes off quicker than any of our bigger cars and any of my mates cars from London when we had them on private land when they came up here. The 1.0 12v is actully quicker than the 1.2 on the pull away and got more pull at top end, don't ask me why because i do not know, nor have i tried it i stick to the speed limits thank you very much.....

To be honest i don't want to be racing along, darting everywhere and putting my tyres under pressure and gearbox and clutch. It's pointless and i prefer to drive my car with respect, not like some of the Corsa B's i've seen driven around here.....:gag:

Tony
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bit of a contradiction there?

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haha i wondered when someone was going to dig up a old thread, just makes me :lol: :lol: :lol: to be honest

contradiction? about what? that i don't race? well not on the roads
 
Yeah read what i said

Not because i was speeding but i can take the corners better than him.....

could i have put the Not with a bigger font size?
 
Techno-Geek said:
Yeah read what i said

Not because i was speeding but i can take the corners better than him.....

could i have put the Not with a bigger font size?
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This is still the bit I have a problem with - you still maintain that your 1.0l Corsa with a set of coilovers will outperform a BMW going round the twisties?

Maybe a 1985 BMW, but a new one? Forget it...what year is your Corsa, just so I can make a fair comparison?
I'm prepared to believe that your mods have made a fantastic difference to the way your car drives, but I think you're just deluding yourself (and starting to annoy others here) that you're the owner of anything other than a moderately tricked-out cheap little runabout...

You also seem to be doing a good deal of back-pedalling in your posts - you quite clearly stated that you could out-corner other people - how would you assess such a claim if not by going head-to-head with them, either directly or against the clock?
That's called racing, yet you say you're not interested in racing?

Hmmm...all you seem to be able to hold up as evidence of your driving skills is some spirited driving round the back-lanes...if you aint got the numbers, you aint got nothing...

I admire your spirit; truly - we all started off like you - cheap cars modded to F*** - but some of us have been doing this a bloody long time...with REAL cars...on real race tracks...
 
I'm starting to annoy others on here? only because they can't believe i can keep up with bigger cars. If no one believe me that's fine.

I admit my car is crap on the straight's, but then again if i wanted speed on the straights i'll be saving up for a bugetti wouldn't i?

You can have a race and have fun in a car without expeeding the speed limit you know.

[QUOT]but some of us have been doing this a bloody long time...with REAL cars...on real race tracks...[/quote]

my car has got a engine, four wheels and a gearbox. Technically that is a REAL car :lol:
 
Why would they take on faith something we all know to be highly improbable? You offer no evidence to support your claims...
Becuse technically it sound like BS to me...

You (and practically every other Corsa driver) only drives the thing because it's cheap to buy and cheap to insure...it's a nasty, plastic little horror - the pedals are too close together, the gearbox is crap, the driving position is bad for anyone over 5'5", the seats are uncomfortable (so get Recaros, I know...) and it's noisy and slow...

It's an ideal first car for someone learning to drive...and for girls. Otherwise we'd see grown men driving them all the time...but we don't...only kids...

How the Hell would you know about driving faster than the speed limit? In a 1.0 it takes the practically the whole journey to get into 3rd gear...
OK, slightly unfair: I did manage to get a 2004 model 1.0 Corsa (my Step-daughter's Boyfriend's car - he was nervous driving it at night) to 95mph on a dual-carriageway once but it felt unstable and the steering was very light...not at all planted...

But you're right in one sense - you can't drive fast in a Corsa and have fun - it's more of a white-knuckle, trying not to die, trying to keep it on the road, kind of thing...
 
Arkady said:
Why would they take on faith something we all know to be highly improbable? You offer no evidence to support your claims...
Becuse technically it sound like BS to me...

You (and practically every other Corsa driver) only drives the thing because it's cheap to buy and cheap to insure...it's a nasty, plastic little horror - the pedals are too close together, the gearbox is crap, the driving position is bad for anyone over 5'5", the seats are uncomfortable (so get Recaros, I know...) and it's noisy and slow...

It's an ideal first car for someone learning to drive...and for girls. Otherwise we'd see grown men driving them all the time...but we don't...only kids...

How the Hell would you know about driving faster than the speed limit? In a 1.0 it takes the practically the whole journey to get into 3rd gear...
OK, slightly unfair: I did manage to get a 2004 model 1.0 Corsa (my Step-daughter's Boyfriend's car - he was nervous driving it at night) to 95mph on a dual-carriageway once but it felt unstable and the steering was very light...not at all planted...

But you're right in one sense - you can't drive fast in a Corsa and have fun - it's more of a white-knuckle, trying not to die, trying to keep it on the road, kind of thing...
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Im not going to record myself going along, i very rarely going out driving them with lot, it's normally sitting on the beach front and chilling. All i am saying is i can keep up with them when i do, Mines a 03 model. We have had much more out of than the specs say. Not me personally i was sitting in the passenger seat.

Yeah we only drive them because they are cheap to insure, they don't feel that uncomfatble to me at all to be honest. But that is my opion not anyone elses.

READ WHAT I WROTE, i drive at the speed limits.......................... it's just stupid and gets you in trouble if you speed. It's 50mph on most roads down here so it's all good. And what you mean it takes the whole journey to get in to 3rd gear? mine has a very quick pick up thank you. I'm sorry, if the 1.2 corsa you drove could only go 95mph then that is serious ROFL.

crazygeordiegirl said:
Woooo whats going on here!!

Dont buy a saxo, they are like tin cans!
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Don't ask mate, just stay well clear :)

Never been in a saxo, tin cans ah? glad i've not been :lol:
 
I didn't say it couldn't go faster, but it that it didn't feel safe to do so as the handling was so poor...

I hear what you're saying about speed limits, but you have to admit that your earlier posts suggested that you could out-corner BMWs...the fact is that most BMWs will be able to corner faster than you can...the car's ability to take any given corner at a speed greater than the opponent...that is out-cornering...

The sad fact is that most BMWs (though not the drivers) can out-corner most other cars out there at any given price-point/style-range...but if you get to the corner first...
 
One assumes good visibility and the width of the road comes into play. On many local roads, my wifes Ford SportKa 95bhp could give my Mercedes C43 (300+bhp) a good run for its money because its narrow and can use the full width of the road to its advantage - power on earlier and allowing the car to naturally drift to the outside, whereas the Mercedes has to be more precise if its to remain within its half of the road. This is before one takes into account knowledge of the local roads and the recklessness/bravery of the driver in question.

My C43 will out corner and out grip the Sportka on wider roads or where you can see the road ahead.
 
I think we were assuming race/closed track under ideal warm/dry conditions...using all of the road available - at least I was...:lol:
Obviously on public roads, local knowledge comes into play as does other traffic, speed restrictions etc etc...
If everyone's assuming: at or under the speed limit on a public road then there's no need for this argument...of course any car can more or less match any other car under those circumstances...
 
Lol, this thread has gone wayaaaaayayayayyy off topic.

Anyway. CAV's. In all the years I've been making cars alot faster than the manufacture intended I have heard of anyone ever refer to coilovers as 'cavs'.

Matt - Don't get a Corsa, because they're bad handling ok ;) In fact don't listen to whether they're good or bad, but the Corsa like many of the small cars has a 1.0 engine to be economical and cheap on insurance and other costs.

I don't know if they're good or bad, and to be honest I don't care. I would never modify one to make it better if it did handle bad as it's just not my cup of tea. Who cares if you're not trying to rag your car fast.
 
Arkady said:
I think we were assuming race/closed track under ideal warm/dry conditions...using all of the road available - at least I was...:lol:
Obviously on public roads, local knowledge comes into play as does other traffic, speed restrictions etc etc...
If everyone's assuming: at or under the speed limit on a public road then there's no need for this argument...of course any car can more or less match any other car under those circumstances...
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30psi said:
Lol, this thread has gone wayaaaaayayayayyy off topic.

Anyway. CAV's. In all the years I've been making cars alot faster than the manufacture intended I have heard of anyone ever refer to coilovers as 'cavs'.

Matt - Don't get a Corsa, because they're bad handling ok ;) In fact don't listen to whether they're good or bad, but the Corsa like many of the small cars has a 1.0 engine to be economical and cheap on insurance and other costs.

I don't know if they're good or bad, and to be honest I don't care. I would never modify one to make it better if it did handle bad as it's just not my cup of tea. Who cares if you're not trying to rag your car fast.
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You might have not heard of them called "cavs" but i have...................

Arkady said:
I didn't say it couldn't go faster, but it that it didn't feel safe to do so as the handling was so poor...

I hear what you're saying about speed limits, but you have to admit that your earlier posts suggested that you could out-corner BMWs...the fact is that most BMWs will be able to corner faster than you can...the car's ability to take any given corner at a speed greater than the opponent...that is out-cornering...

The sad fact is that most BMWs (though not the drivers) can out-corner most other cars out there at any given price-point/style-range...but if you get to the corner first...
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If your hammering it down these roads in a beamer you will have to lift off the throttle when you get to the corners otherwise you'll spin out or the car will do something else, simple as that. Where as me in my corsa can just keep the power on thoughout the corners. Do you see what i am saying?

andrewc said:
One assumes good visibility and the width of the road comes into play. On many local roads, my wifes Ford SportKa 95bhp could give my Mercedes C43 (300+bhp) a good run for its money because its narrow and can use the full width of the road to its advantage - power on earlier and allowing the car to naturally drift to the outside, whereas the Mercedes has to be more precise if its to remain within its half of the road. This is before one takes into account knowledge of the local roads and the recklessness/bravery of the driver in question.

My C43 will out corner and out grip the Sportka on wider roads or where you can see the road ahead.
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Andrew you know what im talking about these roads being very small don't you? I suppose that plays a big part in it aswell.

I did feel a bit silly when i got my arse handed to me on a plate when i was out with my dad in his TDv6 and he just pulled away from me coming up the hill from the petrol garage (MUM i want one of daddy's cars from chrismas)
 
Techno-Geek said:
If your hammering it down these roads in a beamer you will have to lift off the throttle when you get to the corners otherwise you'll spin out or the car will do something else, simple as that. Where as me in my corsa can just keep the power on thoughout the corners. Do you see what i am saying?
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Yes, your car is slower so you don't have to brake so much (or at all) to go round the corners...I understand - that's not 'out-cornering'...it's called driving slowly because your car's under-powered...

The combination of accelleration, braking for a corner, steering into it and then accellerating out of the corner again is called 'driving'...
 
Techno-Geek said:
If your hammering it down these roads in a beamer you will have to lift off the throttle when you get to the corners otherwise you'll spin out or the car will do something else, simple as that. Where as me in my corsa can just keep the power on thoughout the corners. Do you see what i am saying?
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you can keep the power on, because it's slow, and doesn't reach a speed fast enough to warrent the need to slow down :lol:



if both your corsa and a BM are going at exactly the same speed to a corner, there will be no difference in cornering, if you dont have to brake then the BM, wouldn't need to at the same speed...
 
Is this a 1.0 Corsa we're talking about here as well?
 
30psi said:
Is this a 1.0 Corsa we're talking about here as well?
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yes :lol:


also find it funny that he think's his 1.0 is fater than a 1.2 corsa(which is still slow), but the 1.2 has more power, more torque, more valve's and an extra cylinder :thinking:
 
Lol. My Thunderbird has 6.3 Corsa engines under the bonnet :D
 
Yeah it's not bad, it's got cherry bombs ala 70's style which are actually a touch too loud to be honest.
 
Arkady said:
Yes, your car is slower so you don't have to brake so much (or at all) to go round the corners...I understand - that's not 'out-cornering'...it's called driving slowly because your car's under-powered...

The combination of accelleration, braking for a corner, steering into it and then accellerating out of the corner again is called 'driving'...
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Ste L said:
you can keep the power on, because it's slow, and doesn't reach a speed fast enough to warrent the need to slow down :lol:



if both your corsa and a BM are going at exactly the same speed to a corner, there will be no difference in cornering, if you dont have to brake then the BM, wouldn't need to at the same speed...
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It is not slow, im going the speed limit. They have to slow down if the are going the speed limit as there cars are bigger (I.E more weight, heavier engine)

30psi said:
Is this a 1.0 Corsa we're talking about here as well?
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Yup, pure powerhouse :lol:

Ste L said:
yes :lol:


also find it funny that he think's his 1.0 is fater than a 1.2 corsa(which is still slow), but the 1.2 has more power, more torque, more valve's and an extra cylinder :thinking:
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Always got to add that last bit haven't you? (which is still slow) go learn some facts about MY car which you won't because it's mine and going back to standard before i sell it..................

I don't think, i know. Look at the stats.................. If you have to think about it, why are you replying to this thread?
 
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mmm...bit too old for me - I'm looking at a long-term project and have narrowed it down to:
a '68 Mustang Fastback - resto-mod or full replica...
a '71 Challenger R/TS
a '70 Barracuda
a '69 Camaro

It's that shoulder-line that gets me...

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If the current Challenger wasn't such a bloated monstrosity (and was available last year with a manual transmission) I'd have bough that instead of the Mustang GT...
 
Your not running Toyo 888 or Yoko 048R tyres are you? Just wondering where the huge increase in cornering force comes from.

As for 'cavs'. I thought you were on about some type of camber compensation/adjustment device.

The BMW that you out cornered was either-
A. Keeping out of your way, expecting you to crash.
B. Driven by a woman in stilleto heels who was also putting on her lippy.
C. Both A+B
 
My old man has a '68 Vette, and has had a number of muscle cars. Unfortunately I'm young and have to start somewhere on the yank tree. Once I've finished a japanese car project I'm also doing I'll sell both cars to put towards a muscle car.

The T Bird rocks for now though

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singlespeed said:
Your not running Toyo 888 or Yoko 048R tyres are you? Just wondering where the huge increase in cornering force comes from.

As for 'cavs'. I thought you were on about some type of camber compensation/adjustment device.

The BMW that you out cornered was either-
A. Keeping out of your way, expecting you to crash.
B. Driven by a woman in stilleto heels who was also putting on her lippy.
C. Both A+B
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The BMW driver knows how much of a good driver i am, so he wasn't keeping out my way.....................

Ok i will just go tell him you called him a women driver yeah? mind he does look like he where's lipstick :lol: shushhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh though :)
 
So, just out of curiosity, what make and model are these super coilies that transformed the corsa into a kart. The Weitec GT's on my Audi are not as good as I had hoped, as the spring rates are too high which gives a ride which is a lot firmer than the Audi sport springs. So I'm wanting something different to complement the KW anti-roll bars and polly bushes.
 
I think you'd be better off going for seperate springs and dampers unless you want to spend £££££'s...
Tokico and Koni make good adjustable dampers for most applications and Vogtland and Eibach may have the springs with the rates you're after...
 
singlespeed said:
So, just out of curiosity, what make and model are these super coilies that transformed the corsa into a kart. The Weitec GT's on my Audi are not as good as I had hoped, as the spring rates are too high which gives a ride which is a lot firmer than the Audi sport springs. So I'm wanting something different to complement the KW anti-roll bars and polly bushes.
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Seening as you think there "super" collies that transform a corsa into a kart, i cannot release the name of them. They're top secret :razz: :lol:

:lol: I'll find you the website in a minute :thumbs:
 
Poppy said:
I just gotted rid of my 1.2l N reg Clio, Which I loved, but he was dying (I cried) and gots a VOLVOO!!! V40 estate 1.9TD and it's immense! I know I sound like an old man!

did **Over the speed limit by lots** and it didn't even feel like 70!

Can you tell i love my car?
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Never heard anyone with so much enthusiasm for an Ovlov before :p usually because most Volvo drivers have pension packets ;) or 3 kids.
 
Techno-Geek said:
If your hammering it down these roads in a beamer you will have to lift off the throttle
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I would strongly recommend avoiding that mid-corner in your corsa too, especially in the wet

Lift-off oversteer is only fun when you expect it and you're ready for it........

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