Canon EOS R Series Cameras

Adamcski said:
Won't want to give them back though lol
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Just one more addition, seeing as we're all pointing at the same thing, you get a voucher at the end of the test drive for 10% off at certain retailers.
(Not quite sure why I am a canon rep. right now)
 
Kieran_89 said:
Review here of the 16mm 2.8....
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I feel this is an oddity of a lens in some ways, I can't work out who it is for. The glass purists will rightly turn their noses up at the huge distortions and digital corrections, and it's too expensive I think for a more casual shooter. Lightroom doesn't have any lens profiles yet.
Apparently the distortions in the centre are much much lower so if it were paired with an APS-C sensor.......
 
CavGez said:
I feel this is an oddity of a lens in some ways, I can't work out who it is for. The glass purists will rightly turn their noses up at the huge distortions and digital corrections, and it's too expensive I think for a more casual shooter. Lightroom doesn't have any lens profiles yet.
Apparently the distortions in the centre are much much lower so if it were paired with an APS-C sensor.......
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I have the 16mm and without corrections applied the pin-cushioning is very noticeable across the whole frame. Corner fall-off would be less of an issue with an APS-C sensor (or crop) but that's not the point of a full-frame lens. With corrections applied, either for in-camera jpegs or via Canon's DPP software the results are very good.
 
CavGez said:
I feel this is an oddity of a lens in some ways, I can't work out who it is for. The glass purists will rightly turn their noses up at the huge distortions and digital corrections, and it's too expensive I think for a more casual shooter. Lightroom doesn't have any lens profiles yet.
Apparently the distortions in the centre are much much lower so if it were paired with an APS-C sensor.......
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While I am not an optical purist and have no issues with digital corrections the level of distortion on this lens seems to be on a level that with digital corrections your corners and image quality will be affected. All digital corrections come with IQ penalty but generally the trade off is worth it (for me at least) for a smaller lens and take the negligible IQ hit. doesn't see to be the case with this lens.

Its a small and very cheap lens (considering its a 1st party UWA prime) made for people who I imagine are looking to keep a small FF setup with RP or something similar.
 
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Adamcski said:
Won't want to give them back though lol
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I did the test drive last year, borrowed the RP, 24-105 and 35mm. Loved them but had to wait till this year to do the upgrade.

CavGez said:
Just one more addition, seeing as we're all pointing at the same thing, you get a voucher at the end of the test drive for 10% off at certain retailers.
(Not quite sure why I am a canon rep. right now)
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The test drive voucher is only helpful if you are buying new gear from a participating dealer. Not so helpful if buying secondhand.

The problem with the Canon Test Drive now is that there's almost on RF L series lenses. Only the 100mm macro. But they do have the 24-105 non-L, the 16mm, 50mm f1.8, 85mm f2 (which I've borrowed and really liked), the new 100-400. Certainly enough glass to test out and they do have the EF adapter so you can try your EF lenses.
 
nandbytes said:
EDITED: deleted the selective quote here
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Good to hear, also from magicolor1.
I personally think the best approach would be some digital correction on a lens to bring other benefits other than absolute sharpness, which is the easiest to define and measure and hence probably the most reviewed topic.
 
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CavGez said:
Good to hear, also from magicolor1.
I personally think the best approach would be some digital correction on a lens to bring other benefits other than absolute sharpness, which is the easiest to define and measure and hence probably the most reviewed topic.
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did you read my entire post or just bits of it?
Because I don't think the trade-off is worth it when its as bad as the 16mm f2.8 because the impact on IQ does not look negligible.
 
Hmmm, it appears not. I didn't register the change of flow in your post that happened right at the end. More beer? Yes. I think more beer is needed. that'll do the trick
 
A question for my son here, he has an EOS-R and wants to buy a couple of additional batteries. Are there 3rd party ones that work correctly or does he have to invest in Canon ones?? He has a Blackmagic 6K as well and tried the battery from that (LP-E6) but the R said incompatible battery and refused to power up.
 
Mr Perceptive said:
A question for my son here, he has an EOS-R and wants to buy a couple of additional batteries. Are there 3rd party ones that work correctly or does he have to invest in Canon ones?? He has a Blackmagic 6K as well and tried the battery from that (LP-E6) but the R said incompatible battery and refused to power up.
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Ive had better experience with original canon batteries in terms on battery life. However some of the knockoffs are not bad so are worth considering. Sometimes, usually with knockoff AC adapters I get a message “does this say canon?” If you select “no” there is then a disclaimer. If you select “yes” and it’s not canon then it shuts down for safety reasons.
 
nandbytes said:
quite expensive even from Panammoz but I guess its the price you pay for being an early adopter.
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E-infin have it for £1379 but Panamoz offer 3 year UK warranty vs 12 months at E-infin, looking forward to taking it down to wales.

Also ordered a NiSi 10 stop ND filter to go with it.
 
Just realised I forgot about PhotoSpecialist, they have it for the same price as Panamoz but offer a 5 year warranty instead of 3 years.
 
Kieran_89 said:
E-infin have it for £1379 but Panamoz offer 3 year UK warranty vs 12 months at E-infin, looking forward to taking it down to wales.

Also ordered a NiSi 10 stop ND filter to go with it.
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Given the stories I've heard from e-infin I'd stay well clear of them.

How much warranty does canon give in the UK?
 
I believe it is 1 year on the R6 body. Yes just checked their online store. I think some items they give a 2 year warranty if purchased from them.

I'm still hovering over the buy button on an R6 ( driving my wife mad). So may pop into WEX so I can actually see one as I haven't found a shop local to me that's got one.

I've looked at that panamoz site and some of the price differences are nothing to sniff at.

They sell the R6 with adapter for about £2050 and with a 24-105 mm L lens for £2970. Is the lens worth the extra?
 
Adamcski said:
I believe it is 1 year on the R6 body. Yes just checked their online store. I think some items they give a 2 year warranty if purchased from them.

I'm still hovering over the buy button on an R6 ( driving my wife mad). So may pop into WEX so I can actually see one as I haven't found a shop local to me that's got one.

I've looked at that panamoz site and some of the price differences are nothing to sniff at.

They sell the R6 with adapter for about £2050 and with a 24-105 mm L lens for £2970. Is the lens worth the extra?
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The 24-105L is a wonderful lens - I've got the RF and the EF one, and very nice indeed. Doesn't seem a bad price!
 
stickytape said:
The 24-105L is a wonderful lens - I've got the RF and the EF one, and very nice indeed. Doesn't seem a bad price!
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Argh every time I come here it costs me more :ROFLMAO:
 
Adamcski said:
I believe it is 1 year on the R6 body. Yes just checked their online store. I think some items they give a 2 year warranty if purchased from them.

I'm still hovering over the buy button on an R6 ( driving my wife mad). So may pop into WEX so I can actually see one as I haven't found a shop local to me that's got one.

I've looked at that panamoz site and some of the price differences are nothing to sniff at.

They sell the R6 with adapter for about £2050 and with a 24-105 mm L lens for £2970. Is the lens worth the extra?
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Get them on 24hr test drive to see how you’d like them.

A bit of research before it lands so you can quickly set it up and you get a weekend of use for free.
 
Phil V said:
Get them on 24hr test drive to see how you’d like them.

A bit of research before it lands so you can quickly set it up and you get a weekend of use for free.
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:plus1:

Also I though test driving gave you a discount too?
So its seems to be a no-brainer to test drive.
 
nandbytes said:
Given the stories I've heard from e-infin I'd stay well clear of them.

How much warranty does canon give in the UK?
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I’ve used them 10+ times now for camera gear and thankfully never had an issue, they even take a picture of your parcel before it gets packaged up and another one just before it leaves the warehouse.

Panamoz couldn’t price match but offered it me for £1400 so I took them up on that.
 
Kieran_89 said:
I’ve used them 10+ times now for camera gear and thankfully never had an issue, they even take a picture of your parcel before it gets packaged up and another one just before it leaves the warehouse.

Panamoz couldn’t price match but offered it me for £1400 so I took them up on that.
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I am sure there are no problem with the items getting to you but I know friends who've had issues with after sales support and warranty claims.

Mike.P said:
My Sony 200-600mm came from e-infinity because Panamoz wouldn't match the price (quite a difference at the time) yet they would price match a R5 when I asked a couple of days ago.
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I imagine it all probably depends on their profit margins on various items and probably also is different from brand to brand.
Sony e-mount lenses are generally cheaper than RF ones, probably means there less margin in it too.
Even when dealing within the UK, I can normally get a bigger discount on non-Sony lenses from certain shops.

Used to be the other way round in the "DSLR era", Sony used to be expensive option and Canon/Nikon cheaper. Sony is cheaper now which is why swapping to canon as attractive as it is makes it financially harder to swallow for me.
 
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Mr Perceptive said:
A question for my son here, he has an EOS-R and wants to buy a couple of additional batteries. Are there 3rd party ones that work correctly or does he have to invest in Canon ones?? He has a Blackmagic 6K as well and tried the battery from that (LP-E6) but the R said incompatible battery and refused to power up.
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I use Duracells in my R5 and they work perfectly.

I even have some old Duracell 1400mAh batteries which worked fine but but didn't last very long.
I've since replaced them with Duracell 2000mAh batteries.
 
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nandbytes said:
I am sure there are no problem with the items getting to you but I know friends who've had issues with after sales support and warranty claims.
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Yeah I have heard of those issues, it’s still not enough to put me off ordering from them though.
 
Has anybody out there got an R6 and 5D4? IF so, could you post the same shot taken by both cameras. I am trying to decide if I need my 5D4 for landscape, seascape etc
 
I see the Canon 100-400 is available for delivery, tempted for £699 but i reckon it'll be available grey for under £500.
 
I'm heading over to Wex later to have a good look around and hold / feel the cameras. I'm torn between the A7 iii (which I know is older) and the R6, so figured I would go and see what they are like. My main photography areas are family / pets and macro. Silly question, is 20 MP on the R6 okay for macro stuff?
 
Adamcski said:
I'm heading over to Wex later to have a good look around and hold / feel the cameras. I'm torn between the A7 iii (which I know is older) and the R6, so figured I would go and see what they are like. My main photography areas are family / pets and macro. Silly question, is 20 MP on the R6 okay for macro stuff?
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they both are a good camera and the difference in MP between those two camera are negligible. However the R6 may have the upper hand on the AF.
 
Thanks, just back from WEX and now even more confused. Conversation went along the lines of 1) don't buy Sony their interface is difficult to get to grips with and the shop has had multiple Sony cameras (4 this month) in with issues requiring repairs (they didn't elaborate). 2) Fujifilm are excellent and you wont need to spend an awful lot on lenses and they have cheaper lenses than most. 3) Canon are good but the R lenses and Cameras are expensive and 4) the overall suggestion was a Lumix S5 (if I have got that right) that I know absolutely nothing about. So guess I am conducting research on here and wider for this afternoon.
 
Adamcski said:
Thanks, just back from WEX and now even more confused. Conversation went along the lines of 1) don't buy Sony their interface is difficult to get to grips with and the shop has had multiple Sony cameras (4 this month) in with issues requiring repairs (they didn't elaborate). 2) Fujifilm are excellent and you wont need to spend an awful lot on lenses and they have cheaper lenses than most. 3) Canon are good but the R lenses and Cameras are expensive and 4) the overall suggestion was a Lumix S5 (if I have got that right) that I know absolutely nothing about. So guess I am conducting research on here and wider for this afternoon.
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I’ve not had experience with other makes but I can say is that I started digital photography in 2006 with canon gear I’ve still got all the cameras I’ve bought and despite having high shutter counts they all still work perfectly,
My first camera a 350D is a bit battered with a 60k shutter count it still takes good pictures although haven’t used it for ages
What I’m trying to say is that it’s worth paying a bit more and canon service support is excellent
 
My 2c comments below:

1. I used Sony A9 on multiple occassions from harsh Winter in Japan to bloody hot UK summer - zero issues. Not sure what they meant by interface, but if it was their menu system I can kinda agree with them but you'll get used to their menu system and you can made custom shortcuts. At this time I am running both Sony and Canon, I have no issues with both sides.

2. No comments on Fujifilm as I never used one, but judging from people using them they liked it a lot.

3. You can buy Canon R and RF lenses from grey market or alternatively use EF lenses with adapter. Slowly build up from there... buy used..

4. Panasonic? apart from watching YouTube, I do not know anybody using this system.

I'd say Sony, Fujifilm and Canon may have better resell value than Panasonic.
Sony has better lens line up plus third party options (cheaper).
Canon's ability to adapt their existing EF lenses like native is again their strong point. Plenty of used Canon EF lenses (even third party) floating around that can be obtained at a reasonable prices.

I used Sony because their AF is superior at the time and I do a lot of wildlifes so this gives an advantage over other Canon offerings. Now I sold the Sony and the lenses for Canon R5.
 
They did confuse me a little on the Canon side of things but stating they were unsure if my Speedlite EX 430 iii rt flash would work on an R6 and that I souldn't use any EF-S lenses on them (I only have one my Sigma 100 mm Macro) - perhaps they were a little anti Canon today?
 
Adamcski said:
They did confuse me a little on the Canon side of things but stating they were unsure if my Speedlite EX 430 iii rt flash would work on an R6 and that I souldn't use any EF-S lenses on them (I only have one my Sigma 100 mm Macro) - perhaps they were a little anti Canon today?
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View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9KEr_6lajVU
EX430II can be used on R5. They are right about the EF-S lenses...
 
Toying with the idea of an RP myself
I understood,according to Canon website that ef-s lenses worked with the adapter
 
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