Buying 24-105L off eBay... Stolen?

Ok Ok... are we not all forgeting something... if you suspect the goods are stollen... morally you should be pulling away from the sale for the simple reason... the goods are stollen and buying them is wrong.

The world is becoming an awful place and suporting the antics of characters like this so you get a cheap deal is wrong! Also where is your back up if the stollen lens is faulty!

It has that that has always made me think twice about buying anything electrical off ebay. A guy told me who works in comet recently that 40% of goods are returned due to faults within the first year!

Mark
 
Right, so hang on a minute, let's have a butchers at this...

You spotted, through looking at his feedback, that he'd sold another brand new 24-105L, and up-on questioning, he got that one for £400 from a camera shop he works at, and he sold it on for profit.

This one, his girlfriend bought him from Jessops, he's no reciept, and he thinks it was about a month or so ago. Why would his girlfriend buy one from Jessops, at full price, if he worked at a camera shop?

I'm gunna stop their, because even now that's getting a little too complicated for my liking, especially when £600 is sat in the balance.

Everybody loves a bargain, but I'd walk away fella, home address in hand or not, because if it all goes tits up, you're £640 down.

'If it seems too good to be true, it usually is' , and as foodpoison said, if his girlfriend HAD bought the lens from Jessops, reciept there or not, Jessops could bring up the transaction details.

I don't know about you, but whenever I sell something, I try to give as much possitive information as possible. Reciepts, dates purchased, prices etc. He's selling a lens thats £200-£300 off the RRP price, easily, and it's the second one he's selling in a matter of months?

Walk away mate.
 
Bear in mind that title to goods always remains with the original, and rightful, owner.

You could buy it in perfectly good faith but, if it does turn out to be stolen and the police come after it and find you, they'll be perfectly within their rights to take it from you and return it to the original owner with no compensation whatsoever.
 
Echoing most of the points above - certainly sounds dodgy - or at the very best doesn't stack up!

Why would she buy him the same lens as he's already sold? (OK we now know he's lied, because admits shill bidding to increase the price!)

So you're dealing with a lier. Proven.

Also as mentioned if he works in a photography shop, why would the GF go buy at full whack from Jessops? Doesn't stack up. Any way of finding out if he does work in a photography shop? If so what one, and ask the manager if they're missing a lens? - Mind you doesn't seem the kind of chap I'd want to get too involved with.





Do you believe he bought at £400?
 
Listen to your instincts no matter how tempting this is .There is a lot of good sound advice on here for you.Would you ever be able to sell it later if you wanted a prospective buyer may do a check and find it was stolen and they report you to the police
Bob
 
I think there is 1 for sale on eos classified @£700 is it the same one?
Bob
 
if it sounds risky (and it is) you need to consider whether you can afford to risk/gamble 600 quid.
 
Kryptix said:
I feel a lot easier now. I just spoken to him on the phone again and he admitted it's the same lens. :lol: He said he bidded it up himself then won it, had to pay £60 fee's and left feedback for each other. :lol: .
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Doesnt the fact that he's crafty enough (and daft enough) to bid on the item, against ebays rules, say more about him?
If its the 'level' of deviousnes thats bothering you, then you have to make your call.
 
Has anybody considered the possibility the lens is kippered? maybe it's not working properly and he want to get shot of it, that could explain whys he's got it back once before too.
Either way it sounds iffy to me, as others have said if it's nicked and he gets caught you'll loose the lens, and I'll be very supprised if you get your money back from him after.
 
He just texted me saying his girlfriend found the receipt. Bought from Jacobs (not Jessops) on 4th April. Still sealed...

Is that enough to go ahead with it?
 
Kryptix said:
He just texted me saying his girlfriend found the receipt. Bought from Jessops on 4th April. Still sealed...

Is that enough to go ahead with it?
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If there's a receipt...it's hard to argue I guess. And if he's letting you pick it up from his house thats a bonus. Though admittedly I'd be hesitant after reading about the 2x 14-105 lark. :shrug:
 
swanseamale47 said:
Has anybody considered the possibility the lens is kippered? maybe it's not working properly and he want to get shot of it, that could explain whys he's got it back once before too.
Either way it sounds iffy to me, as others have said if it's nicked and he gets caught you'll loose the lens, and I'll be very supprised if you get your money back from him after.
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He said it's still sealed. I'll take my 50D along and give it a good testing! I'm not an expert but hey. It seems no dodgier than buying any lens off eBay now, as-new with a receipt.

I've bidded stuff up in fairness and I'm a genuine bloke who has never scammed anyone... It doesn't instantly make you a bad person!
 
Bendihossan said:
If there's a receipt...it's hard to argue I guess. And if he's letting you pick it up from his house thats a bonus. Though admittedly I'd be hesitant after reading about the 2x 14-105 lark. :shrug:
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I'm quite comfortable about this side of the story now. He said he lied just in case eBay found out, and then when I enquired he admitted it straight away. Before then we had only spoke for literally 2 minutes before I asked.

Can anyone explain to me how to check date codes? I want to make sure it's around the April 2009 date. I have no-idea how to do this...
 
I read all the above and agreed it looked dodgy but if you can try the lens and see the receipt for it and it seems ok then I would go for it there must be some warranty left on it so I would buy it Good luck hope its a bargain youve nabbed
Bob
 
Kryptix said:
I'm quite comfortable about this side of the story now. He said he lied just in case eBay found out, and then when I enquired he admitted it straight away. Before then we had only spoke for literally 2 minutes before I asked.

Can anyone explain to me how to check date codes? I want to make sure it's around the April 2009 date. I have no-idea how to do this...
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Ask for the date code and look here:
http://www.the-digital-picture.com/Canon-Lenses/Canon-Lens-Aging.aspx

Too slow :(
 
Bob said:
I think there is 1 for sale on eos classified @£700 is it the same one?
Bob
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I think so as this states bought from Jacobs and he now says it's from Jacobs. If it is still sealed and after double checking it everything is as you think it should be, seems you may have a good deal - esp as you have the receipt, so in theory full (remaining) warrenty
 
andyred said:
I think so as this states bought from Jacobs and he now says it's from Jacobs. If it is still sealed and after double checking it everything is as you think it should be, seems you may have a good deal - esp as you have the receipt, so in theory full (remaining) warrenty
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Can you PM me the thread as I'm banned from that section. I'd like to verify... Is there any images? What's his username? When was it posted?
 
Nope it's only on the lens, on the camera mount. Possibly in white small writing starting with a 'U'
 
I've bidded stuff up in fairness and I'm a genuine bloke who has never scammed anyone
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Is that right? what about people who have paid over the odds because of your shill bidding
 
tijuana taxi said:
Is that right? what about people who have paid over the odds because of your shill bidding
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It's their choice if they want to pay that amount. No-one is forcing them.

That's like saying setting a starting price is making people pay over the odds...

Anyway, that's another discussion completely.
 
Lasagne said:
If you can't see the irony in that then there's something wrong with you
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I guess there's something wrong with me then. I have no idea what you're on about.
 
Kryptix said:
Would this number be on the box? It's sealed so he said he can't look at the lens!
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you are planning to open the box before handing the money over :shrug:
 
wack61 said:
you are planning to open the box before handing the money over :shrug:
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Yes, but I don't want to get the code off him now as that'll involve HIM opening the box because I see it! The previous poster said 'ask him'
 
Kryptix said:
I guess there's something wrong with me then. I have no idea what you're on about.
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Nothing wrong with you...I've bidded up things for friends before and had them return the favour....not often, but I have done. No-one's forced to buy anything at auction....
 
mid_gen said:
Nothing wrong with you...I've bidded up things for friends before and had them return the favour....not often, but I have done. No-one's forced to buy anything at auction....
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What's wrong with it is that it is dishonest and against the terms of the contract with ebay.

Have you thought of becoming an MP?
 
I've bidded stuff up before.
So what?
If, for example, there is ONE person who wants something, and I've set the starting bid of 99p.

I am hoping there would be 2 people interested, and hypothetically they're both willing to pay £50 and still consider it a bargain. If only one person is interested, they get it at 99p unless someone intervenes. If they want the product, they'll bid for it. Why should I come off worse so the buyer gets a bargain?
 
trapper501 said:
What's wrong with it is that it is dishonest and against the terms of the contract with ebay.

Have you thought of becoming an MP?
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I'll tell you what is dishonest, ebay taking £40 of a £300 sale.

I wonder if ebay has thought of becoming a member of the government.

As far as the lens goes Luke, it all looks legit, go for it!

If the receipt is genuine as far as I'm concerned you've got nothing to lose!
 
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