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How come over 830,000 people have "liked" the Britain First Facebook page? Are there really nearly a million fascists in the UK???
 
Probably not.
Just a few hundred thousand knee jerking sheep.
It IS Facebook after all.
 
No.
They use what can only be described as deception to get likes.

Please like our page if you support the Army
Please like our page if you Are against Animal cruelty
Please like our page if you think pensioners deserve more money than illegal immigrants

Etc etc.

To be fair, lots of people seem to have cottoned on, but there's a huge legacy of the unthinking who are happy to share [PLEASE DON'T TRY TO BYPASS THE SWEAR FILTER] on Facebook without pausing to think.
 
what phil said - because they continually hijack the help for heroes, poppy appeal etc memes, and some people don't think before they click

then there's the people who think 'britain first' must be patriotic .. without realising they area spin off of the BNP
 
Ricardodaforce said:
How come over 830,000 people have "liked" the Britain First Facebook page? Are there really nearly a million fascists in the UK???
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There are also :-
In England and Wales 390,127 people (almost 0.8%) stated their religion as Jedi on their 2001 Census forms, surpassing Sikhism, Judaism, and Buddhism, and making it the fourth largest reported religion in the country
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So I would suggest that it really proves nothing from a population of 64 million people ;)
 
Cobra said:
There are also :-
In England and Wales 390,127 people (almost 0.8%) stated their religion as Jedi on their 2001 Census forms, surpassing Sikhism, Judaism, and Buddhism, and making it the fourth largest reported religion in the country
Source Wiki
So I would suggest that it really proves nothing from a population of 64 million people ;)
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You'd think they'd use the force to convert more people.....:exit:
 
Ricardodaforce said:
How come over 830,000 people have "liked" the Britain First Facebook page? Are there really nearly a million fascists in the UK???
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Maybe that people actually like their page. Just a thought like. By liking their page, does that automatically make the likers fascists. I don't think so:rolleyes:. Are the even fascists themselves?
 
Personally I avoid the social networking sites (that's just me) but I do look at all sorts of news sites. By the same argument just because I'm looking at Russia Today or Al Jazeera doesn't mean I believe everything that's on there any more than I do the BBC. It hopefully gives a more balanced view to believe about 5% of any of them... and that's on a good day!

There is a tendency to ask you to click on this and that on many sites, and I think many people just do it without even thinking of the potential consequences.
 
BRASH said:
Maybe that people actually like their page. Just a thought like. By liking their page, does that automatically make the likers fascists. I don't think so:rolleyes:. Are the even fascists themselves?
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Simply Yes (well not necessarily Fascist, but certainly racist and denifitely xenophobic)

I really don't understand how people can hold racist views and then object to being called a Racist.

It's a fairly simple premise, racist describes the views they hold, if people agree with those views, racist is a perfectly apt label. If those people are embarrassed by that label, that's a very complicated issue though.
 
Phil V said:
Simply Yes (well not necessarily Fascist, but certainly racist and denifitely xenophobic)

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So, the answer to my question in your view is no then (or not necessarily as you put it). I never, nor did the op, mention racist or xenophobic, yet you choose to throw that in.

With that, a big grin on my face at your pathetic attempt at derogatory stereotyping, I'm off to work. Have a nice day.
 
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BRASH said:
So, the answer to my question in your view is no then (or not necessarily as you put it). I never, nor did the op, mention racist or xenophobic, yet you choose to throw that in.

With that, a big grin on my face at your pathetic attempt at derogatory stereotyping, I'm off to work. Have a nice day.
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Get a grip, it's not about derogatory stereotyping or a personal attack on anyone, its a clarification, I don't believe that Britain First are fascists (I really don't think we know enough about them to make that statement), but they're certainly racist and xenophobic. If someone has racist views, they're a racist, it's frankly hilarious that they'd find that a derogatory statement, but like I alluded to, human nature is complicated, who knows what goes on in their heads.

On a related note, I'm definitely a socialist and I enjoy champagne*, but no one ever labelled me a champagne socialist because I don't fit into their idea of what a Champagne Socialist is.

*for balance I also like real ale and continental lager - maybe that's why I'm not a champagne socialist ;) who knows.

Not all Racists are Hitler, and not all Socialists are Stalin, let's keep some intelligent perspective :)
 
Phil V said:
Get a grip, it's not about derogatory stereotyping or a personal attack on anyone, its a clarification, I don't believe that Britain First are fascists (I really don't think we know enough about them to make that statement), but they're certainly racist and xenophobic. If someone has racist views, they're a racist, it's frankly hilarious that they'd find that a derogatory statement, but like I alluded to, human nature is complicated, who knows what goes on in their heads.

On a related note, I'm definitely a socialist and I enjoy champagne*, but no one ever labelled me a champagne socialist because I don't fit into their idea of what a Champagne Socialist is.

*for balance I also like real ale and continental lager - maybe that's why I'm not a champagne socialist ;) who knows.

Not all Racists are Hitler, and not all Socialists are Stalin, let's keep some intelligent perspective :)
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But the remark of the OP, and Brash, was in relation to fascism. So it is a no from you then ;) I agree about the racism, but that wasn't the what was remarked upon.

PS. If you move to Islington you may fit in the category :P
 
dejongj said:
But the remark of the OP, and Brash, was in relation to fascism. So it is a no from you then ;) I agree about the racism, but that wasn't the what was remarked upon.

PS. If you move to Islington you may fit in the category :p
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This!!
 
OK, to clarify. I could have used the words xenophobic or racist. They all convey the point I was trying to make. You decide which you feel is most appropriate.
 
big soft moose said:
what phil said - because they continually hijack the help for heroes, poppy appeal etc memes, and some people don't think before they click

then there's the people who think 'britain first' must be patriotic .. without realising they area spin off of the BNP
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That's what winds me up about them too hijacking things like the poppy appeal and help for heroes
I see it on Facebook all the time
I don't want to get into personal arguments but they are racist (Britain first / BNP) and go against everything that I believe in
 
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dejongj said:
But the remark of the OP, and Brash, was in relation to fascism. So it is a no from you then ;) I agree about the racism, but that wasn't the what was remarked upon.

PS. If you move to Islington you may fit in the category :p
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So should the question in the OP have said Racist rather than fascist?
As it seems no one really knows whether they're Fascist, but we can all agree probably they're Racist.
And the interesting question is whether everyone who likes their page is a Racist (as per my first post, I suspect not).

I know some very lefty people who were duped into sharing their stuff about cruelty to animals early on.
 
Phil V said:
So should the question in the OP have said Racist rather than fascist?
As it seems no one really knows whether they're Fascist, but we can all agree probably they're Racist.
And the interesting question is whether everyone who likes their page is a Racist (as per my first post, I suspect not).

I know some very lefty people who were duped into sharing their stuff about cruelty to animals early on.
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To be honest I honestly don't care either way, that is for the OP to clarify which he has done since. I have no time for the organisation, and do find it despicable how they dupe people into singular subjects engineered for the headline readers. It is what I just dislike on facebook in general, what is it with people sharing images with overlays, or what I notice more recently crap photos of old people inviting likes etc.

I see it in the schools as well, and everywhere. People seem to put a lot of meaning to an 'online' like. It doesn't mean anything, in my opinion it removes conversation and removes an educational element out of it. I'm just waiting for the first daily mail story that someone didn't get a job, promotion, husband, benefit because they 'liked' something online....

It's all without meaning, yet very cleverly plays on that inner desire of many human beings to be liked and without quantative confirmation they can't possibly be likeable?

Did that actually answer the question? :)
 
dejongj said:
To be honest I honestly don't care either way, that is for the OP to clarify which he has done since. I have no time for the organisation, and do find it despicable how they dupe people into singular subjects engineered for the headline readers. It is what I just dislike on facebook in general, what is it with people sharing images with overlays, or what I notice more recently crap photos of old people inviting likes etc.

I see it in the schools as well, and everywhere. People seem to put a lot of meaning to an 'online' like. It doesn't mean anything, in my opinion it removes conversation and removes an educational element out of it. I'm just waiting for the first daily mail story that someone didn't get a job, promotion, husband, benefit because they 'liked' something online....

It's all without meaning, yet very cleverly plays on that inner desire of many human beings to be liked and without quantative confirmation they can't possibly be likeable?

Did that actually answer the question? :)
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No.
But it's good you got it off your chest :)

And I wholeheartedly agree too ;)
 
I kinda agree with @Phil V on this one, Britain First are just another version of the BNP and all the other flavors of the groups of racists and xenophobes that continue to haunt our society.
They like to throw out these crazy Likes just to try to engage people who will not look any further down the rabbit hole.

How ever liking the page without understanding the sub text just makes you a bit stupid and gullable, possibly bordering on moronic but not racist.
 
:) To me groups like Brittains First, BNP, Islam4UK, etc just have no interest. I prefer it if there was no media attention, no social media attention, and merely a watchful eye regarding unwanted growth and actions by the security forces and proscribe them when they cross the line.
 
LCPete said:
That's what winds me up about them too hijacking things like the poppy appeal and help for heroes
I see it on Facebook all the time
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You do realise you can filter out such content.
 
AHILL said:
Would you care to elaborate then we can all understand what your statement referred to! o_O
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BRASH said:
This!!
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this included that as a quote ;)

dejongj said:
But the remark of the OP, and Brash, was in relation to fascism. So it is a no from you then ;) I agree about the racism, but that wasn't the what was remarked upon.

PS. If you move to Islington you may fit in the category :p
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I would have thought that is self explanatory ;)
 
AHILL said:
Would you care to elaborate then we can all understand what your statement referred to! o_O
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What's not to understand? I agreed with what he said. I thought that was pretty obvious as I quoted his post.
 
Sometimes on certain devices or apps it doesn't show the quotes, I've noticed that in the past and makes for very strange reading of the forum. Likewise when you ignore someone, the conversations can be very odd :)
 
dejongj said:
Sometimes on certain devices or apps it doesn't show the quotes, I've noticed that in the past and makes for very strange reading of the forum. Likewise when you ignore someone, the conversations can be very odd :)
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That's why I've never hit the ignore button, it's a bit 'cutting your nose off'. It's easy enough to 'ignore' or 'take with a pinch of salt', or even 'be prepared to be shocked, or just take the p***'!
 
ST4 said:
Where are Britain first openly racist?
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They are white working class British males. Of course they're racist.;)
 
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